Poltical purchase... maybe the navy can convince them to buy mrsss for the price of that two offered ships

Malaysia should get Chang Bai Shan class LPD instead of more corvette or frigates, you need them most

me too,
remember few week ago, i ok for this

http://www.janes.com/article/49538/idex-20...new-lpd-concept

but if we buy china frigate, we still want to buy that DMSE ship?

Probably yes we still need to buy dsme ship.
we are still seriously lacking of warship.

If only our top minister have some military training or at least brain on how to manage country defence

Jauh lagi......

Well rmn did ask for more hulls to do their duties effectively..

This post has been edited by thpace: Mar 13 2015, 07:23 PM

that 071 LPD size too big for our navy, it size about 20K tons，we want somethink like Makassar class LPD

China did offer us smaller displacement one


But can tukar for hq-9 kah? Hahaha

it should be fine, as you no need them in larger number, just two hull with consideration of Operational rotation and maintenance will be enough.

FM80 (HQ7）change to HHQ16 ok lah, 40km range cukup loh. Gowind only 20km je..

other reason is our Navy base very small too. to park also question, few time warship got Collide in base.

This post has been edited by waja2000: Mar 13 2015, 07:30 PM

I think logistic support capability is important to support the rotation of Army and Navy personnel between Peninsula and Borneo Malaysia, not to mention their important roles to support HADR mission.

Nak but budget tak ada... long plague our military procurements

Dapat satu kurang satu haha

if that the case, then is good i worried we cant integrate with western combat system. If we want to use china missile also no problem but please make it with western CMS

but still logistically not good to have so many missile type, so yeah use nsm/exocett all the way i think.

for mrss also a good idea if we can get china made,

I just hope they don't do stupid things like chinese-bloc weapon on western FCS or vice versa.

Looks like that SAAB is not giving up with the Gripen offer for the Indonesian Air Force F-5 replacement program. They are now offering packages that includes:

- Meteor missiles
- RBS-15 missiles (PT.DI is being offered to do the assembling)
- (AEW&C) Erieye
- Tactical data link that can be integrated with other military assets
- Aircraft Maintenance Center
- Operation Tactical Flight Center

http://print.kompas.com/baca/2015/03/13/Sa...Lengkap-Penggan

This post has been edited by azriel: Mar 13 2015, 08:38 PM

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This post has been edited by azriel: Mar 13 2015, 08:21 PM

why not, is good combination, with advance western Radar and cheap chinese missile (weapon), suite to as lack of budget
FYI, Algeria C28A (same frigate in news sales to RMN too) is using Thales Smart-S 3D radar (same with Gowind) than Mix chinese system (Combat system) using chinese weapon, and each C28A warship about usd 100-150 million only. 1/5 our Gowind Price, about 40-50% of DSME propose corvette Price.
and chinese shipyard newest warship already start using international standard and protocol to design/construct warship, so mix Chinese/western system not a issue.

if u add a bit money, event can get more powerful frigate better than Gowind in 50% of our Gowind price.
like this one


http://chinesemilitaryreview.blogspot.com/...ce-frigate.html

This post has been edited by waja2000: Mar 14 2015, 02:24 PM

Military rifle teams test new electronic target system at Talladega range



The U.S. Marine Corps Shooting Team and the U.S. Army Service Rifle Team are testing the new Kongsberg Electronic Target System installed at the soon to open CMP Talladega Marksmanship Park.

The two rifle teams compete against each other at shooting competitions around the world but came together as one team to help the CMP thoroughly evaluate the new target system.

Both rifle teams participated in competition scenarios at 200, 300 and 600 yards from standing, sitting and prone positions. The team will finish the testing Friday.

Six Marines make up the Marine Corps Shooting Team from Quantico Virginia. They are using M4 carbines. The sixteen members of the U.S. Army Service Rifle Team from Fort Benning, Georgia are using the M-16. All were using 5.56 target ammunition.

Most every team member I spoke to had nothing but good things to say about the target system and the park as a whole.

"The targeting system is super smooth and super quick with no pit changes," Joseph Hall, one of the Army Service Rifle Team members told me. "From what we're used to, we're saving a tremendous amount of time. We're able to concentrate on the shooting aspect of it and less on the actual maintenance and taking care of the targets and pit changes and relay changes."

Hall scored back to back 991's on a 1000 aggregate match. He is a native of Alabaster, Alabama.

"You get more time of the gun instead of changing yards lines, doing pit changes, switching out targetry, there is more time to shoot," Sgt. Antonio Digonza with the Marine Corps Shooting Team explained. " The target are hard rubber or plastic and are self healing and durable. They will last a long time providing multiple rounds and tons of usage so you can continue firing."

The main range is covered so this week's rainy soggy weather didn't put a damper on testing and caused no delays.

Don Hindman the CMP Marksmanship Park Range Master said everything has gone very well so far this week. " We are looking forward to a soft opening of the park on May 5 with the dedication on Friday June 5, 2015."

More information about the CMP Talladega Marksmanship Park events can be found on the CMP website.

http://www.al.com/outdoors/index.ssf/2015/..._us_marine.html

Because it's not like lego block that can be plugged and played. Weapon, radar and subsequent system integration costs millions and even then there is no guarantee that it is going to run seamlessly.

One of the shining example is Bangladeshi BNS Bangabandhu, it is only commisioned less than a year before being decommissioned and it took Daewoo another 6 years to get it running before being recommisioned. Even after that there are still issues that surfaces every now and then.

that is Deawoo .... now is China shipyard, different liao.
well first Algeria C28A already commissioned and ship already back to algeria ... sea trail also fine in system and weapon test.
well chinese own system already very mature, now they already successful integrate Thales Radar in to ship.
event now they said can integrate customer prefer system if wan it.

This post has been edited by waja2000: Mar 14 2015, 12:13 AM