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post Mar 13 2015, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Mar 12 2015, 08:43 PM)
TNI & the Indonesian MoD has finally selected the Sukhoi Su-35 for the F-5 replacement. It is now up to the Indonesian Defense Minister to process the administration towards finalizing the contract deal.

http://nasional.sindonews.com/read/975725/...lima-1426161926
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QUOTE(madoka @ Mar 12 2015, 10:00 PM)
Finally the ministry of defense and Armed forces chose for Su-35 S as the F-5 replacement

http://nasional.sindonews.com/read/975725/...lima-1426161926
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Finally, atleast something better rather than 'may may'
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post Mar 13 2015, 01:16 PM

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Mar 13 2015, 01:31 PM
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post Mar 13 2015, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 13 2015, 01:48 AM)
That would be a complicated issue to solves for nmel.
besides nmel have close partnership with dsme which is a better deal for nmel interest.

I do hope we make use of meko design unfortunately things dun goes the way we want it to be.
Erieye use software to cover such weaknesses.
it seem that saab wanted to employ GaN tech into erieye radar which greatly improve it capabilities.
Though china aew is cheap there is an issues in datalink.
On procurement china aew will be view as high risk procurement compare to erieye.

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As for gripen

Yup the price tag include tot/ip, production kits and few more things.

ASH would be lot cheaper expected flyaway cost less than usd90mil for full spec.
unless we are going for Australian variant which consists of ew that would be above usd100mil.
though I dun think US will sell such variants to Malaysia. laugh.gif
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i aware on this ....
software not much can help, they only can adjusted scan angle,
funny why no one Erieye install front and rear radar.
let wait and see.
yep, ASH flyaway cost should be less than usd 90 mil.

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post Mar 13 2015, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Mar 13 2015, 01:25 PM)
i aware on this ....
software not much can help, they only can adjusted scan angle,
funny why no one Erieye install front and rear radar.
let wait and see. 
yep, ASH flyaway cost should be less than usd 90 mil.
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Basically, that what you get for the price you pay. Cant complain

U want 360 coverage, sadly A295 AWACS radar made by jews laugh.gif


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post Mar 13 2015, 02:07 PM

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post Mar 13 2015, 02:08 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 13 2015, 01:46 PM)
Basically, that what you get for the price you pay. Cant complain

U want 360 coverage, sadly A295 AWACS radar made by jews laugh.gif
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than, RMAF need try hard to get B737 MESA Wedgetai haha....... laugh.gif
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post Mar 13 2015, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Mar 13 2015, 02:08 PM)
than, RMAF need try hard to get B737 MESA Wedgetai  haha.......  laugh.gif
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mahal tuu...
but more capable than eireye for sure

I not sure how many RMAF specific need. Calling for atreyuangel laugh.gif
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post Mar 13 2015, 02:40 PM

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Someone is having high grade weeds asking for wedgetail
Anyway I'm okay with erieye couple with sigint airtracer flex.

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post Mar 13 2015, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 13 2015, 02:34 PM)
mahal tuu...
but more capable than eireye for sure

I not sure how many RMAF specific need. Calling for atreyuangel  laugh.gif
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should be 4 unit at lease, Turkey/SK also 4 unit, only OZ is 6 unit
ideally 3 for penisular and 3 fro sabah/Sarawak.
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post Mar 13 2015, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 13 2015, 02:40 PM)
Someone is having high grade weeds asking for wedgetail
Anyway I'm okay with erieye couple with sigint airtracer flex.
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make my A295 AWACS suggestion less weedy tongue.gif

erieye with air tracker can fit ? hmm.gif hmm.gif

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post Mar 13 2015, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 13 2015, 02:54 PM)
make my A295 AWACS suggestion less weedy  tongue.gif

erieye with air tracker can fit ? hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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295 aew still quite a weed since it was jew products.
Airtracer got combo version with erieye.
I think they will share some of the equipment.
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post Mar 13 2015, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 13 2015, 03:08 PM)
295 aew still quite a weed since it was jew products.
Airtracer got combo version with erieye.
I think they will share some of the equipment.
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less weedy than wedgetail laugh.gif
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post Mar 13 2015, 03:22 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 13 2015, 03:15 PM)
less weedy than wedgetail  laugh.gif
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Anyway the most realistic option which also offer on the table.

ASH + 4 e2d
gripen + erieye
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post Mar 13 2015, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 13 2015, 03:22 PM)
Anyway the most realistic option which also offer on the table.

ASH + 4 e2d
gripen + erieye
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How about refurbished/ upgraded super hornet + lease gripen + erieye

That way we keep our big bro happy and we can potentially stay within budget
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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 13 2015, 03:46 PM)
How about refurbished/ upgraded super hornet + lease gripen + erieye

That way we keep our big bro happy and we can potentially stay within budget
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Huh you mean 2nd hand hornet?
I dun think US will sell any of their SH or even legacy hornet.
since their f35 project were so fark up.
Best option we go for lease gripen + erieye if no budget.
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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 13 2015, 03:15 PM)
less weedy than wedgetail  laugh.gif
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what is weedy ?
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post Mar 13 2015, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 13 2015, 03:55 PM)
Huh you mean 2nd hand hornet?
I dun think US will sell any of their SH or even legacy hornet.
since their f35 project were so fark up.
Best option we go for lease gripen + erieye if no budget.
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easy if no budget, buy less hornet like 12 unit to replace Mig29.... 12 unit ASH still more efficient then mig29
Erieye can link with ASH or F18D too, even Su30mkm, not necessary Gripen.

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post Mar 13 2015, 04:25 PM

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prefer our forces take the ASH

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post Mar 13 2015, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 13 2015, 03:55 PM)
Huh you mean 2nd hand hornet?
I dun think US will sell any of their SH or even legacy hornet.
since their f35 project were so fark up.
Best option we go for lease gripen + erieye if no budget.
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Yup f35 rubbish...

Look like new ash is the only option to keep big bro hapy. Or f16 hahaha
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 13 2015, 03:55 PM)
Huh you mean 2nd hand hornet?
I dun think US will sell any of their SH or even legacy hornet.
since their f35 project were so fark up.
Best option we go for lease gripen + erieye if no budget.
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I dont like the idea of 2nd hand airframe, I worried something might go wrong with the engine or the airframe which could risk the pilot life plus loosing some money too

If want make sure those are lowest hour airframe we can get.

tbf gov should just buy new one, for the sake of the pilot safety and should buy this year or next since we have alot of pilot soon will be no plane to fly. If want cheap Fa50 with aesa is good enough

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