I just hope they don't do stupid things like chinese-bloc weapon on western FCS or vice versa.
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Mar 13 2015, 08:00 PM
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I just hope they don't do stupid things like chinese-bloc weapon on western FCS or vice versa.
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Mar 13 2015, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Mar 13 2015, 09:32 PM) why not, is good combination, with advance western Radar and cheap chinese missile (weapon), suite to as lack of budget Because it's not like lego block that can be plugged and played. Weapon, radar and subsequent system integration costs millions and even then there is no guarantee that it is going to run seamlessly.FYI, Algeria C28A (same frigate in news sales to RMN too) is using Thales Smart-S 3D radar (same with Gowind) than Mix chinese system (Combat system) using chinese weapon, and each C28A warship about usd 100-150 million only. 1/5 our Gowind Price, about 40-50% of DSME propose corvette Price. and chinese shipyard newest warship already start using international standard and protocol to design/construct warship, so mix Chinese/western system not a issue. if u add a bit money, event can get more powerful frigate better than Gowind in 50% of our Gowind price. like this one ![]() http://chinesemilitaryreview.blogspot.com/...ce-frigate.html One of the shining example is Bangladeshi BNS Bangabandhu, it is only commisioned less than a year before being decommissioned and it took Daewoo another 6 years to get it running before being recommisioned. Even after that there are still issues that surfaces every now and then. |
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Mar 14 2015, 12:55 AM
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So would you trust chinese shipbuilding company over the Korean? Because I won't.
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Mar 15 2015, 08:44 PM
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Mar 17 2015, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ Mar 17 2015, 07:16 PM) France to Return Money to Russia if Mistral Not Delivered - Arms Trader I hope we can do a Laksamana for the ship![]() LANGKAWI (Sputnik) — France will return money for Mistral-class helicopter carrier if it is not delivered to Russia, Rosoboronexport Director General said Tuesday. The delivery of two Mistral-class assault ships to Russia was agreed under a $1.5 billion deal between Russian state-run arms exporter Rosoboronexport and French shipbuilder DCNS, signed in 2011. "In fact, the money Russia spent on the purchase of the ships will be returned in full, no doubt, even with usury," Isaykin said adding that "everything is specified by the contract." France was expected to deliver the Vladivostok, the first of the two ships, by November 14, 2014. However, on November 25, 2014, French President Francois Hollande said that the shipment would be suspended due to alleged Moscow's interference in the Ukrainian internal crisis. He noted that France would lose most from the non-delivery of Mistral ships as it's image would be damaged greatly. "A party that does not comply with its obligations will suffer more damage. First of all, moral damage, damage to the image of the country. I think that the French side is well aware of this," he said. Russia will make final decision on non-delivery of Mistral warships by May since time frames still allow holding talks with France, Isaykin said. France and Russia are currently holding active talks, he added. http://sputniknews.com/military/20150317/1019587839.html |
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Mar 18 2015, 07:05 PM
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I know weapon system price is not written on stone, but I did recalled that some country bought brand new Mi-171 for less than US$10 million each
QUOTE(OvenBaked @ Mar 17 2015, 04:16 PM) Looks really like MiG-29SMT. With such upgrade, we could see MiGs being operated beyond 2020. They ccould fill both F-5 and Hawk( which for me need replacement more urgently than MiGs).QUOTE(azriel @ Mar 18 2015, 08:28 AM) The Malaysia's Sukhoi Technical Centre will be doing the upgrade for the MiG-29? Under license from RAC MiG? If you're asking why Sukhoi team is doing on MiG aircraft, that's because both Sukhoi and RSK-MiG are under Russian's United Aircraft Company. When Algeria rejected MiG-29SMT from Russia, Russia gave them Su-30MKA instead(while those MiG rejects were later absorbed into Russian air force). |
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Mar 18 2015, 11:26 PM
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That also means ours (if RMAF so chose Rafale) won't going to have nuclear launching capability.
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Mar 20 2015, 06:46 PM
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Mar 20 2015, 10:34 PM
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Don't judge a book by its cover.
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Mar 21 2015, 06:06 PM
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Mar 21 2015, 06:32 PM
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Mar 22 2015, 01:47 AM
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We still need the MiGs to be upgraded because the period between contract signing and actual delivery of the aircraft would take up to five, six years and the subsequent integration and familiarization would take another year or two. The MiGs upgrade programme, on the other hand, could be done in less than 2 years and we already has extensive ground support and munitions for them.
Even when we already got the new aircraft, these MiGs could be relegated into secondary role, ensuring the status quo in term of quantity, unless we somehow bought around 40 new aircraft |
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Mar 24 2015, 06:43 PM
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I thought I've read somewhere that RMN actually send officials to evaluate Makassar-class LPD and for all it's worth (maybe not much), they decided against the procurement due to being simply a navalized ferry.
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Mar 24 2015, 08:51 PM
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QUOTE(junchuan @ Mar 24 2015, 08:33 PM) I'm pretty sure we can afford it if we wanted to Exactly. However, ultimately any military procurement is decided by the MoF,so I wouldn't rule out the possibility. I mean, the government wanted to buy 2 chinese-made surface ship even though RMN doesn't specifically requested so.It's only like what, 30 million? It's basically a ferry converted to lpd with civilian specs No military spec lpd is gonna cost 30 million Sailing to somalia is not really a big deal On the up side, it's good to get new ships without going through the hassle of waiting in the queue and competing with other service for priority of funding This post has been edited by cunnilinguist: Mar 24 2015, 08:51 PM |
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Mar 28 2015, 10:43 PM
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MILF "Burit" home made .50 BMG anti materiel sniper rifles
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Mar 31 2015, 02:00 AM
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"Sibutu" island... what an aptly named island.
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Apr 1 2015, 08:10 PM
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Meanwhile JGSDF replaced their "egg" with this.
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Apr 3 2015, 08:27 AM
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QUOTE(azriel @ Apr 3 2015, 07:54 AM) Hopefully it will be flat-top design |
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Apr 3 2015, 10:46 PM
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Despite all the stereotypes, one thing is for sure, China-made weapons are superior than Indian made ones
Hell the word superior is an understatement. India are simply outclassed by China QUOTE(pcboss00 @ Apr 3 2015, 10:17 AM) Well, I'm not quite good in ship knowledge. After make few comparison, length 130m doesn't fit with 13000t displacement. All LPD with 12000t~14000t displacement got >160m length. Depends on whether the figure refers to empty or full displacement.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amphibious_transport_dock |
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Apr 3 2015, 10:51 PM
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![]() Glad to know we're using 76mm gun for our new missile corvettes. QUOTE LIMA 2015: Hyundai-Wia positions 76 mm guns for Malaysian corvette programme http://www.janes.com/article/50055/lima-20...vette-programmeRidzwan Rahmat, Langkawi - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly 18 March 2015 Key Points Hyundai-Wia is proposing its 76 mm naval gun for Malaysia's new missile corvettes The company is offering one complimentary training turret should the RMN select the gun for all six boats South Korean company Hyundai-Wia is proposing its 76 mm naval gun system for the Royal Malaysian Navy's (RMN's) new missile corvettes on order from Daewoo Shipbuilding & Marine Engineering (DSME). DSME announced in November 2014 that it had won an order to build six ships for the programme. The company's proposal for the corvette's weapons fit include one 76 mm main gun, two 30 mm guns near the aft section and four anti-ship missile launch systems. Woo-Seuck Jang, a general manager at Hyundai-Wia's defence division, told IHS Jane's at LIMA 2015 that the 76 mm gun system his company is proposing is particularly suitable for the RMN ships because it has been operationally proven on platforms in service with the Republic of Korea Navy (RoKN). This post has been edited by cunnilinguist: Apr 3 2015, 10:53 PM |
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