uhh who are you replying to ? I think almost everybody preorder these days, those who don't probably have good reason as they are not sure if they will have the money for it when it releases. If you buy from the toy stores I mentioned there won't be any KOs =_=..

because you talk about KO's, i'm just saying if you preorder you won't have to worry about them, plus you can buy them at cheaper price.

How to identify the KO product? they using the same brand name?

from what folks here say everything is following the original from box to robot, but there's some cues like small parts different from original, paint application might be better than ori, box you can see the printouts is not as clear as original, and maybe don't have the car brand holograms. so u need to compare real & KO side by side to identify.

Visit a few store n found out toywiz (toy garden) more friendly......😅😅😅 IT toys price r high(dunno about PO), FT not much choices, Vhobby ... Now Wanna make myself to fami toy & my toy.....

You can't really argue with the fact that the price point is much more affordable as compared to most 3rd party combiners rather I think the main reason would be we are already being spoilt by better rendition of combiner form Devastator. Most people complain due to the lackluster effort being put in the designs as well as excuses (like sacrificing articulation due to stability) which most likely due to the cost of production. It almost seem as if Hasbro reveal it ahead of time to cater for the overwhelming demands of fans who has been yearning for an official Devastator figure.

A good combined form is crucial to a combiner but having good individual robot forms are also as equally important as it gives us the option to display them however we please. The CW Titan class Devastator however doesn't really reflect well referring to this statement. Most prominently is when comparing it to the recent CW Superion. The Superion figure eventhough simplistic possesses a good combine mode, articulation as well as individual robot mode not to mention being the more the appropriate size to fit in with other CHUG figures whereas the Titan Devastator seem more like an oversized...*cough*... KO (please don't hit me ).

If I really want an "affordable" combiner Devastator figure I would rather go for these instead :



No offense guys... just my 2 cents .

There are so many trusted toy shops in town, both online and offline.

And when they do sell KO, they are very upfront about it.

So there is absolutely nothing to worry about when it comes to accidentally buying KO. Just use common sense and don't buy from unknown sellers.

And of course, if a deal seems too good to be true (e.g. Convoy Bape for RM300+), then it usually is.

To be fair, consider what year the Metroplex Titan Class was released.. and considering that this being the same size actually has more engineering than "just sitting down" to switch modes. Also then considering the fact that recent year, prices of Hasbro stuff has risen in Malaysia.. I don't think it'll be 1000 but i doubt it'll be the same price as Metroplex even taking into account the GST.


Also, the price was given to me by the 1Toy boss, he mentioned he was in HK for the first unveiling and the price was quoted by the Hasbro execs there haha.. but he also asssured me that is probably an over estimation and won't see that price in local toy stores here.. (retail like TRU or Parkson etc maybe)

I beg to differ though, i think the price is a very valid point of argument because the difference is significance and from the picture and first hand review of some youtubers, the quality isn't really far off from these 3rd party devastators. we have to remind ourselves that this is a toy and it will always remain a toy. 3rd party manufacturers and hasbro have different conception in mind where the former has "display/collectibles" in mind and the latter has "play". In this sense, i think hasbro nails it. I wouldn't play with Green Giant etc with the risk of "damaging" it. it's just way too valuable.

Keeping everything simple and fun.

I wouldn't let my nieces and nephews play with the Green Giant (if i have one =P) but i don't mind them playing with the CW Devastator. Same thing, I let my nephew play with my AOE Optimus Prime but not the ROTF Optimus Prime because the transformation of the ROTF is just too damn tough.

People will always complain just like how people complained about Hasbro's Superion but worshiped Takara's. They are the same thing but really, does the color scheme make such a HUGE difference, i don't think so. People complained because, they like to complain, that's all. The Devastator may be subject to further tweaks because it was an early preview. Look back at the Superion when it was first released by Hasbro, it's not captivating at all.

When Alpha Bravo was revealed to replace Slingshot, it seems to many as if Hasbro has committed treason but now, people are praising Hasbro for releasing an alternative.

Having the luxury of all worlds is definitely good but really, if you asked majority of the people who bought Devastator, they want Devastator, not Long Haul or Mixmaster.

Further, not everyone has the financial ability to choke out RM1,000.00 just to buy something to display so i think Hasbro has enable many people to make their dream come true.

This post has been edited by shaniandras2787: Mar 13 2015, 03:52 PM

CW Devastator is an affordable kid's toy.

Green Giant and TFC Herc are higher end adult collectibles.

You are right that they serve different functions.

But to claim that the quality is almost the same? LOL how on earth?

Yes the color makes a huge difference for fans.. who is to say your opinion is more valid over theirs ?

Actually, it's due out in a couple of months.. It has to be in production or at least finalized quite a bit before they show it off... also the Superion thing, it was a case of Hasbro with their usual lack of posing skills.. The final product while I thought it was nice, it's still not great.. Kangkang legs yo..


Uhmm I think it's still a tie on this.. there are people who sitll wants slingshot.. unless again those who do their opinion doesn't matter

Uhmm, no.. again, that's your opinion but I've seen many fans who love the individual bots..

I agree on this point.. but let's not make out Hasbro to be some saint that is out to make our dreams come true..

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Nuff said

Comes with premium space inside the box! Premium air included!

my take:

Quality as in plastic/ material used for hinges joints = almost the same
Quality as in engineering complexity = 3rd party superior


Both will deteriorate (if equally playedd with) the same way. But I think 3rd party will lose out from multiple transformations/play. Imagine transforming a Hasbro toy with 10 moving parts every day for a year. Eventually a few hinges might loosen. Now imagine doing the same to a 30 moving parts 3rd party figure.... 10 hinges might loosen .


You might have other subjective criteria on quality though.

anyway.. dont be deceived by 3rd party's premium pricing though.. they're not using any more superior materials than Hasbro's . and they are not doing QC on the strength of hinges to ensure it lasted twice or 10 times longer than conventional Hasbro's equivalent.

I don't disagree with you.

The way I see it, the plastic quality being almost the same is to be expected, since Hasbro has certain durability standards they must meet as a global toy brand. And since 3P companies have become increasingly aware of how important plastic quality is to adult collectors.

The most meaningful differentiating factor in terms of quality is the engineering.

Younger kids don't care about engineering. That's why this simplistic official Devy is for them.

And personally, I don't transform my 3P figures more than once or twice due to the possible wear and tear you mentioned (plus it must be said that some 3P figs are a pain in the butt to transform).

I actually don't know anyone who believes 3P uses superior materials. If anything, it's well known that the most consistent plastic quality comes from the official releases.

It's also well known that 3P figures are expensive due to economies of scale. And well, because the market is willing to pay their prices.

Not always the case. Eg Mp-09. Premium Takara price, shitty QC. I feel safer transforming the equally complex FP Intimidator.Hasbro/Takara may have the benefit of being the more experienced guys in the market, but being an industry giant they don't have the risk of going out of business for releasing a bad TF toy every now and then. Both sides has ups and down, so there isn't really any point to pick a side. In the end, buy what you like, buy what you can afford.

Lol I bought two Leaderclass Jetfires, both have QC issue out of the box.. one even broke during the first transformation around the chest area.. T_T...