no. get a uasp-compatible hdd enclosure. about 70 per pc.

Haha thanks

Its been a while since i last update my SSD

yeah same here.

i think it's fine because oem ssds have none of these value-added bonuses (new management software, new firmware, etc.) but they still work fine as usual.

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due to recent rapid developments in nvme ssd techs, growing in speed and size (e.g. samsung pm1725, which is a pcie 3.0 x8 enterprise hhhl, tlc-based; endurance rating is 5 dwpd for 5 years; max capacity announced currently is 6.4TB; read speed around 6GB/s, write speed at 2GB/s. sandisk was said to release 6 to 8TB ssds in 2017 too) the problems have now shifted to limited pcie lanes in a computer, and compatibility in hardware and os. (pm1725 is an enterprise ssd. i think the consumer models should be coming at much later time)

for os compatibility, intel and samsung are releasing their own driver set to overcome such issues. for instance, if you have a sm951 nvme version (oem), you can use the same driver set made for 950 pro also. one main issue is the slow boot of nvme ssds. it's said this part is mainly about firmware compatibility (in mobo, or in ssds) this one might be more tricky, as it depends on other parties to provide a complete fix.

back to consumer space, tbh, you probably don't need these. yet. it's an overkill to most of us.

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any one knows can we used win xp pro in ssd? any issue with ssd in long run? i have a pc that runs on XP. i know there is no longer support for updates. for normal words, surfing light gaming is still workable.

wxp is old (the same applies to the hardware on which it's installed too), so in terms of performance, consider the following: old mobo might not have ahci sata mode; its sata port might be sata1 only. because wxp has reached eol, driver support might be none (still, you should be able to run it with ide mode). in terms of native ssd support in the os, trim is important to ssd optimization, but it is only available in w7 and up. a better news is, some ssds have bundled software tool that let you run trim manually, so you should pick up ssds from those brands only.

in short, yes you can run wxp with ssd. however you will not run it optimally.

hey guys did u disable hibernation/fast startup in windows 10? i heard it can cause unnecessary write to the ssd.

uh? i have answered your question in w10 thread. maybe it's too short and you didn't get it?

basically it's ok to disable this feature because ssd makes os boot fast enough, and the space of ssd is expensive relatively so it's better to free up the space for your software.

however if you're willing to sacrifice some writes for much faster boot speed, it's fine too.

I disabled them but the reason was not because to prevent unnecessary write. I disabled because with my SSDs in RAID0, windows already boot fast enough & I prefer fresh start when booting my computer. I also don't use hibernate.

I bought a Samsung 850pro 500g for my company 4yrs old of Acer AIO. End up Samsung magician 4.9 warned me such SSD only connected to sata2, really a waste!

Well, what to do if the computer doesn't support Sata 3. Not many 4yrs old portable computer support Sata 3. Lesson learned; always research before buying. But is it really a waste? You can recycle the SSD when the 4yrs old computer go kaput & use it on Sata 3 capable computer.

ok, this is new to me. will take note. this means i have to shut down from the start menu every time. but what if i have a program running background? i have to close it and re-open every start up?

im new here.
bought a samsung 850 evo 250GB. not gonna install so soon as im still looking for a caddy drive, and also i have work up running.

have read trough the 1st page, roughly have the idea what i need to do. but.......
im planing to do a fresh install as my previous hdd has so many installed and removed program.
so i would like to ask, after installed windows os what other software i need to go first? i was once told should install anti virus so my window are protected or should i do windows updates 1st?

List of software i need to reinstall:-
- Driver
- Anti virus
- WPS office
- Photoshop
- Illustractor
- Autocad
- 3Ds max
- Sketch up
- Some office utility tools
- p2p network

i read somewhere p2p torr will damage ssd with excessive read and write. what is the proper way of ssd with p2p torr??? any advise?

Btw, gonna re-install Win7 not plan in upgrading Win10,

your advice is much appreciated

This post has been edited by blek: Nov 24 2015, 04:45 AM

it's not a waste. for user computing, ssd still provides much better iops (especially random reads/writes) than hdd.

ssd optimization is basically a thing about give and take. ideally you apply them all. practically, if you need a feature that prevents you to apply one or more optimization techniques, you skip them.

er when you shut down a computer, or put it to sleep/hibernate, none of the programs will run. that's a normal behavior. the way you put it sounded like it's a tedious thing to do it's not that bad with a ssd.

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for a clean install, i usually do this:

1. check ssd firmware. if there is an update i will update it first before a clean install. at the same time i will also get the latest compatible drivers for all hardware in my system from internet.
2. remove all partitions in my os drive (dispart > clean) and do a clean install on it.
3. after a successful clean install, i will install drivers first. for instance if it's a intel-based system, install at least intel chipset, rst, and mei first. reboot and then proceed with other drivers. i prefer to do this offline because recent windows os always connect to internet by default to do their own things, like getting drivers from their server, which might interfere with your driver installations.
4. now i connect the computer to internet. if you need to have dot net framework installed because some programs need it, install it first.
5. run windows updates.
6. activate windows.
7. after all the above are done, create the first system image. this is a plain system image with all windows-only updates applied, without anything else.
8. here you can apply your own optimizations. for instance, you can run samsung magician and optimize the system using it.
9. install software and apply all their latest updates / patches. this includes antivirus.
10. after everything is working fine, make another system image. this one is the system image that you will use when things go bad. it contains all latest possible drivers, settings, programs, and all updates / patches that you have applied to the system up until before it is made, so you do not need to go through the same again. alternatively, you can also create images for cloning using third party tools. if possible, recreate new system image whenever you made significant changes to the system and use it for future recovery purposes.

once you have reached step 10, you can forget about all other steps. just repeat step 10 when necessary, unless you wanna do a clean install again. when things go bad, you boot your computer with os install disk/usb and choose repair computers and find restore from system image or something like that to restore your os.

note that everyone has different approach to achieve the same thing, and this is just how i manage my computers. it's related to how i set up my computers. (i.e. small ssd for os drive; medium or large ssds for games; hdds for data storage.) instead of going through the whole process again, this approach takes only under half an hour to restore everything every time i messed up my os.

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you don't use ssd to get files via p2p networks. a better combo for a system is ssd+hdd combo, i.e. ssd for os/apps, hdd for downloads and data storage. i use transmission and utorrent sometimes, and it lets me point related write-intensive folders to my hdd.

edit: for system image storage, i use a dedicated external hdd. it's a single-partition mbr disk for better compatibility to windows built-in recovery tools. in case you're wondering where the tools are located, it's in the control panel. for more complete instructions to use the tools for different windows versions, use search engine to look it up. there are plenty of well-written tutorials online.


This post has been edited by horns: Nov 24 2015, 01:01 PM

I bought an SSD for my 5 years old laptop. Installed windows on it & was tinkering when my laptop died. Plus side I can use it on my pc for games, free up some space on the OS SSDs.

hornstqvm for the information.
So SATA to USB cable is a must for upgrading? I need to update my firmware before install SSD into drive?

so we do not seperate partition from the SSD. The whole drive will be use as window system and software.

Even if I direct the p2p download location to 2nd drive HDD while the p2p software was install onto SSD, it still damage my SSD? Possible to install and run p2p software from the 2nd drive HDD?

SSD will be install into laptop. 2nd SSD will not be cost effective.

currently using Intel 520 SSD for almost 2 years.

was thinking to get the new Intel 730 series, any user have feedback on this series ?

another down part is not many shop in lowyat carrying this brand.

This post has been edited by wengjoe: Nov 24 2015, 02:25 PM

He meant the firmware update if available for your brand new SSD. Manufacturer usually advised updating the firmware if only you have problem with current firmware. The SATA to USB or 2.5" SATA external enclosure is for connecting your brand new SSD to your laptop for the firmware update process.

There are two free tools that I like to use which are:-
- Minitool Partition Wizard - for partitioning/formatting the drive
- Macrium Reflect - for cloning & creating image

This post has been edited by kizwan: Nov 24 2015, 03:04 PM

you can just connect the ssd via a sata cable, and run samsung magician to update its firmware. i never use sata-to-usb adapter for ssd firmware upgrades.

if i had a ssd that is 2tb or more, i might consider making some partitions on it. anything less than or equals to 1tb i think it's not necessary.

for p2p software, you can install it anywhere you like, as long as you make sure you point all torrent/download folders to the hdd.

how many ssds you wanna put in your computers is really up to you. (whether it's cost effective or not also depends on what you do with your computers) i have a full-ssd setup for this laptop for work. (1x 512gb, 2x 960gb) my data is stored in external storage and nas.

edit: the reason why i don't use sata-to-usb adapter for firmware upgrades is because sometimes manufacturers require the ssd to run in ahci mode, which is only available if you run it with sata cable.

This post has been edited by horns: Nov 24 2015, 03:51 PM

we seldom hear about intel ssds. however you can try look it up for user reviews and comments for the drive online.

yes, you're right. the steps were meant for reference only. skip anything that is not applicable. it's just personal preference to choose whether you wanna update the firmware or not. the safer way is of course if you don't have issues, don't create issues. (if it's not broken, don't fix it)

The steps you outlined are spot on regardless.