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post Mar 6 2015, 07:41 PM, updated 11y ago

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Official SSD Discussion Thread

Introduction
A solid-state drive (SSD) (sometimes improperly referred to as a "solid-state disk" or "electronic disk") is a data storage device that uses integrated circuit assemblies as memory to store data persistently. SSD technology uses electronic interfaces compatible with traditional block input/output (I/O) hard disk drives. SSDs do not employ any moving mechanical components, which distinguishes them from traditional magnetic disks such as hard disk drives (HDDs) or floppy disks, which are electromechanical devices containing spinning disks and movable read/write heads. Compared with electromechanical disks, SSDs are typically less susceptible to physical shock, are silent, and have lower access time and latency, but are, at 2011 market prices, more expensive per unit of storage. The prices have continued to decline in 2012.

SSDs share the I/O interface technology developed for hard disk drives, thus permitting simple replacement for most applications.
As of 2010, most SSDs use NAND-based flash memory, which retains data without power. For applications requiring fast access, but not necessarily data persistence after power loss, SSDs may be constructed from random-access memory (RAM). Such devices may employ separate power sources, such as batteries, to maintain data after power loss.

Hybrid drives combine the features of SSDs and HDDs in the same unit, containing a large hard disk drive and an SSD cache to improve performance of frequently accessed data. These devices may offer near-SSD performance for many applications.

The SSD Optimization Guide
http://thessdreview.com/ssd-guides/optimiz...zation-guide-2/

SSD related Tools and Ultilities
HDDTune ~ http://www.hdtune.com/download.html
AS SSD Benchmark ~ http://alex-is.de/PHP/fusion/downloads.php...4&download_id=9
ATTO Disk Brench ~ http://www.attotech.com/products/product.p...=Disk_Benchmark
CrystalDiskMark ~ http://crystalmark.info/software/CrystalDi...rk/index-e.html
Intel SSD toolbox ~ http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Des...Y&DwnldID=18455
SSDlife ~ http://ssd-life.com/eng/download-ssdlife.html

SSD Performance Chart
All SSD Charts 2012 [benchmarks] - http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/ssd-cha...hmarks,129.html
All SSD RAID 0 Charts 2011 [benchmarks] - http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/ssd-rai...hmarks,120.html
Best SSDs For The Money (Auto Update) - http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-re...hmark,3269.html
SSD Reviews - http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=150954

Source
http://www.anandtech.com/print/2829
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?opti...d=444&Itemid=60
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/storage/2...sd-controller/1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive

SSD Controllers
Some Basic idea about SSD and SSD controller
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SSD Firmware and Updates
OCZ - http://www.ocztechnology.com/ssd_tools/
Corsair - http://forum.corsair.com/v3/forumdisplay.php?f=206
Crucial - http://www.crucial.com/support/firmware.aspx
Intel - http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Des...Y&DwnldID=18455
Kingston - http://www.kingston.com/en/support/technical/search
Plextor - http://www.goplextor.com/asia/index.php/download
Samsung - http://www.samsung.com/us/support/downloads

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The Solid State Storage Thread
The SSD Thread V2, Faster Better Greener Unbreakable!
The SSD Thread V3, The Speed You Need
TShmwgbworld
post Mar 6 2015, 07:42 PM

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Some Tutorials & FAQs about SSD (Solid State Drive)

Updated on 6 July 2013
Some correction on the answers provided from website

How to Install an SSD (Solid State Drive)
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So what is it that makes an SSD so much faster than an HDD?
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I have read that SSDs have very limited write cycles, and they don't last long. Is this true?
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I have read that SSDs slow down after prolonged use. Is this true?
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How does Internal Secure Erase work on an SSD?
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Over-provisioning. What is it, and how does it work?
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Why do smaller capacity SSDs tend to be slower than higher capacity drives?
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What about services or programs in my operating system such as indexing, pre-fetching, write-caching, defrag etc?
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What is TRIM?
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What settings do I need to adjust in my system BIOS for optimal SSD performance?
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Are SSDs compatible with SATA I & II ?
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What is the difference between SLC and MLC flash memory chips?
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If I'm using an older OS such as Vista or XP, will I still get the performance benefits of SSDs?
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What is the life expectancy of my SSD?
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How can I move my data onto my new SSD?
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How long will my SSD last?
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Does benchmarking my SSD decrease lifespan?
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Will my SSD get hot?
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Do I need to format my SSD? Why doesn't the drive appear in "My Computer" (Windows) or in "Finder" (Mac)?
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How do I find out the firmware version on my SSD?
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Reference Links
1. http://club.myce.com/f138/what-ssd-ssd-faq-297856/
2. http://ocz.com/consumer/ssd-guide/ssd-faqs
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Updated on 6 July 2013

The FAQs continue on here with YouTube videos...
I do realize sometimes it is hard to understand by just read all of the sources through websites/articles. So some short videos are provided as below and hope that they can help to save you some time by just watching tongue.gif .

The Intel SSD Advantage
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SSD vs Hard Drive Performance
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Windows 7 install and SSD upgrade
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How to properly configure the SSD as boot drive and HDD as storage drive
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How to Transfer your Boot Drive to your New Intel SSD - Data Migration
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What is TRIM and Why Does Your SSD Need It?
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The benefits of using a SSD
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post Mar 6 2015, 08:17 PM

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nice!
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post Mar 6 2015, 09:23 PM

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Finally a new version! Parking in here. smile.gif

Thank you hmwgbworld TS for organizing this thread. smile.gif
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post Mar 6 2015, 11:31 PM

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Planning to get my 1st SSD, but i dunno which 1 to get

Budget is around 400ish

plz give some suggestions

thx in advance
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post Mar 7 2015, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(SinclairZ @ Mar 6 2015, 11:31 PM)
Planning to get my 1st SSD, but i dunno which 1 to get

Budget is around 400ish

plz give some suggestions

thx in advance
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with that budget you can get liteon ssd s900 or transcend ssd370 256gb, both about MYR 380.00. imo liteon s900 is the better choice.
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Just managed to clone my multi partition HDD tp SSD (have issues from the last thread https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2874570/+2540)

Found Drive Clone 11 (Farstone) , free for personal use.
Excellent! So far this the only software i know that can clone multi partitions and auto resize it. Damn easy to use.

http://www.farstone.com/software/drive-clone.php

I don't have to reinstall all my licensed program again.

Ok. my SSD upgrade review.

So far, the boot up time of Win 7 Pro is much quicker (now only took 30% loading time vs my old HDD, and programs load up faster as well on my Transcend370 256GB SSD.

Money well spent ! This is after all budget class SSD.
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post Mar 7 2015, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(smallcrab @ Mar 7 2015, 01:59 AM)
Just managed to clone my multi partition HDD tp SSD (have issues from the last thread https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2874570/+2540)

Found Drive Clone 11 (Farstone) , free for personal use.
Excellent! So far this the only software i know that can clone multi partitions and auto resize it. Damn easy to use.

http://www.farstone.com/software/drive-clone.php

I don't have to reinstall all my licensed program again.

Ok. my SSD upgrade review.

So far, the boot up time of Win 7 Pro is much quicker (now only took 30% loading time vs my old HDD, and programs load up faster as well on my Transcend370 256GB SSD.

Money well spent ! This is after all budget class SSD.
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nice and thanks for sharing smile.gif

well, fyi for general use, you can hardly notice the performance differences between mainstream and enthusiast ssds. this is why it's sufficient to get mainstream drives. it's cheaper, and you get more space to use.
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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 7 2015, 10:14 AM)
nice and thanks for sharing smile.gif

well, fyi for general use, you can hardly notice the performance differences between mainstream and enthusiast ssds. this is why it's sufficient to get mainstream drives. it's cheaper, and you get more space to use.
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I do agree at your point. Only notice big different if you moving from HDD to SSD. brows.gif
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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Mar 7 2015, 10:42 AM)
I do agree at your point. Only notice big different if you moving from HDD to SSD. brows.gif
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yes for common usage, consumer sata ssds are almost the same these days. you hardly feel the differences.

once my new gpus are here, i will do sata raid0 setup also because of pcie lane limitations (making use of my old 840 pro). i'm glad i have plenty of sata ports lol!
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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 7 2015, 11:46 AM)
yes for common usage, consumer sata ssds are almost the same these days. you hardly feel the differences.

once my new gpus are here, i will do sata raid0 setup also because of pcie lane limitations (making use of my old 840 pro). i'm glad i have plenty of sata ports lol!
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840 Pro is last 2 years products only.. not that old anyway... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Mar 7 2015, 02:13 PM)
840 Pro is last 2 years products only.. not that old anyway... sweat.gif
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to me as long as the outcomes are ok, whether it's old or not it doesn't really matter hehe



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Hi All,

Planning to get liteon s900 120GB or transcend ssd370 120GB ?

What you guys suggest since I dont plan to get Samsung Pro or Evo

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QUOTE(christina1 @ Mar 7 2015, 08:00 PM)
Hi All,

Planning to get  liteon s900 120GB or transcend ssd370 120GB ?

What you guys suggest since I dont plan to get Samsung Pro or Evo
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QUOTE(christina1 @ Mar 7 2015, 08:00 PM)
Hi All,

Planning to get  liteon s900 120GB or transcend ssd370 120GB ?

What you guys suggest since I dont plan to get Samsung Pro or Evo
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go for liteon s900 256gb. as a plextor and liteon user of some of their drives, imo they are more than good in terms of stability and reliability (as an addition to my previous reply to your thread).

to me, brands like plextor/liteon and crucial look for stability and reliability in their ssds more than performance. the controllers and nand flash they use are of decent quality and have proven quality records. as a long-time manufacturer of oem drives for high-end systems, i think it's in liteon's core values that their products must meet certain levels of confidence to convince their oem partners so that they can take up good volumes of their products regularly (apart from attractive pricing)

this is different from samsung, which produce retail drives based on new technologies most of the times.


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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 7 2015, 10:15 PM)
go for liteon s900 256gb. as a plextor and liteon user of some of their drives, imo they are more than good in terms of stability and reliability (as an addition to my previous reply to your thread).

to me, brands like plextor/liteon and crucial look for stability and reliability in their ssds more than performance. the controllers and nand flash they use are of decent quality and have proven quality records. as a long-time manufacturer of oem drives for high-end systems, i think it's in liteon's core values that their products must meet certain levels of confidence to convince their oem partners so that they can take up good volumes of their products regularly (apart from attractive pricing)

this is different from samsung, which produce retail drives based on new technologies most of the times.
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liteon used to be very popular on dvd-rw

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QUOTE(ngkhanmein @ Mar 7 2015, 10:53 PM)
nod.gif  notworthy.gif

liteon used to be very popular on dvd-rw
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yes, their reputation in optical drive industry has overshadowed their ventures in ssd industry for quite some times.

crucial and plextor/liteon have always been the main force to drive aggressive price cuts. i think the latter is more impressive that they don't produce their own nand flash or controllers but yet can offer very affordable drives without sacrificing quality.


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QUOTE(NightFelix @ Mar 7 2015, 02:13 PM)
840 Pro is last 2 years products only.. not that old anyway... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(horns @ Mar 7 2015, 04:23 PM)
to me as long as the outcomes are ok, whether it's old or not it doesn't really matter hehe
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840 pro owner reporting in laugh.gif i buy right at the EOL stage too along with i7 rclxms.gif total damage 2.9k sweat.gif rclxub.gif

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