How much lowered do you do? you need to increase the ARB links length.

A common issue with many cars is a suspect crankshaft position sensor, they fail when hot and are fine after cooling off.

1 to 1 half finger bro, how ah?
how do i increase the lenght? the link is stock gaga one. got any aftermarket link kah?

but before dis tarak knocking with same setup

Hi Jim,
Any remedy to this issue? we of course don't want see our self being stranded on one of our long drive. We love our SAGA but this is painful for us owners..

Thanks!

To check it it's the issue carry some water and if the problem occurs pour water on the sensor to cool it, if the car then starts it'd be a fair bet that it should be replaced. They shouldn't be expensive but I'm not familiar enough yet to even know its location on a Campro engine. Many cars of all different makes suffer from this issue.

Slam your forehead on the steeringwheel whilst cranking the car non-stop so people won't see your face My car had never fail to start. Only take longer to start when crank position is out or overflow

just say out loud you ashamed buy SAGA instead of ALMERA. LOL.
u new to this thread?
got answer ady : wanker said wait until cool @ continue crank until start @ wait until 1 hour (like u did) @ go warung drink teh tarik then come back crank again.

just go plotong sc there walk-in no need call for booking.

This post has been edited by iskazulka: Apr 1 2015, 12:55 PM

last time when want to go inside my car, when unlock, only passenger car can unlock. driver side cannot unlock. i masuk thru passenger side to go to driver seat like a boss. i noticed a guy looked at me in disbelieve. LOL.

This post has been edited by iskazulka: Apr 1 2015, 12:52 PM

in Fairness to this model , this is the first issue I encountered so far..
@iskazulka: should I prepare my forehead for more slamming session??

thanks for the feedback anyway.

Move the crank sensor and the sensing teeth out of the enclosed area. Like Wira

Wah, lowered until that much...can drive ka? I 1.5 fingers gap I also cannot tahan and increase to 2.

1 finger gap I can't imagine.

You need to increase the length of the end links and with such low clearance your ARB is already on load before it even flex.

Bai VIOS. No matter how low also can

later i check back la the gap, any issue that can cause the knocking?

and how to increase that? need to change or mod?

bro later if want to let go ur hwl if la roger me ok.

but still can fly meh?

I buy Vios also wont lowered until like that unless I can have endless supply of drive shaft, tie rod end, and LCA.

I saw a BLM stanced like that when I was on PLUS KL-Ipoh last Monday.

It was cruising slowly on the slow lane. I guess it's good that he at least knows to keep to the slow lane.

I have got information from Ftuned regarding this issue. For BLM/FL/FLX that are lowered your stock end links will move upwards in relation to the suspension and this moves the front ARB up and close to the chassis. So knocking will occur due to the ARB curve side as the end links was short. Stock saga end links are 220mm (size 13mm nut). Now I'm using Neo end links at 255~260mm (size 15mm nut). Please take note that you need to specify you need Neo end links as some shop will give you Waja end links. The Neo end links I got was Genuine Mitsubishi end links. Spare parts shop will have those normal one but I saw the quality was not very convincing.


And from my thinking the short end links will also have pre-loaded the ARB when the car is lowered so you need to remove that load from the ARB. Adjustable end links are useful if you corner weight the car but for our saga we can only do it on the front. Also on stock end links you are limiting the sweeping arc on the ARB. With longer end links the effective sweeping arc of the ARB will increase.

Hope this info helps to fellow gaga owners who lowered the car especially those very low riders.

This post has been edited by TitanRev: Apr 2 2015, 09:19 AM

wah gooding info weh

how much damage for the neo end links? and how its differ from waja,gen2 end links?

is changing the links is just plug and play as i see the nut size is different from 13mm to 15mm?
my car cornering now is a lot more agile but the roll is too much.

thanks bro

This post has been edited by THE CLASS OF 13: Apr 2 2015, 11:44 AM

The Neo end links are not that expensive.

The point here is the length of the end links. Waja end links are shorter.

Changing the end links are easy and can DIY but you need to jack the car up on both front wheels so that you take the load off the ARB.

Very useful info.. Thanks for sharing..