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davidke20
post Mar 1 2015, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(tysmiracle @ Mar 1 2015, 12:30 PM)
Anywhere U recommend with good workmanship and cheap?
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Toms Auto Part. Carik tauke Ah Peng. Suh die kasi tukak trus. Xpaya skim. Cheebye rotor only 19mm, selepas skim tinggal 17mm lagi cepat bengkok. Suh die cek dulu apahai bunyik bising dulu, jgn bagitau mau tukak disc/buat skim. Nasihat sudah bagi manyak kali. Amik pertindakan, bukan asyik tanya. Klo tak mau penasihat aku, sendiri pi carik kedai sepepat/werksiop. Harge smua sudah kasi. Tanya 10 kali pon sama. Sekian.
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post Mar 1 2015, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(panglimanadzri @ Mar 1 2015, 12:59 PM)
Hi all. Aku ada pertanyaan sikit ni. kEte aku tgglam banjit ari tu d klantan la. N aku hantar kat sc proton. Now sc tu cakap sebis utk cuci knderaan rm 1050, dia kata ni standing order daripada proton. Sapa2 bley calrify tak pasal kos baiki kereta banjir ni. Satu lagi sc cakap kete aku rosak kmputer board. Kos kmpter board ni 850 dia cakap.

Sapa2 bleh tolong tak?
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Betol SC sakap. Sekira banjir, konfem ECU koyak. Klo BLM MT morah ciket, sekitar 500 sebab BLM model lama pakei 16bit komputer je. Yg FLX pakei 32bit, mahai ciket.
davidke20
post Mar 2 2015, 05:21 AM

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QUOTE(Bazinga! @ Mar 2 2015, 01:12 AM)
congrats new teredddd biggrin.gif

btw, whats is the market price to sell gaga 2013 model now yea?
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Base on Kosong spec.

Direk owner sell/Retail around 25k. Trade in around 22k. If no buy kar from dealer straightaway sell to them, then 20k.

All prices listed above are base on full cash settlement, not including bank loan early settlement penalties and depreciation balance settlement. If you're on 9 years loan with 0 down payment, there's a chance that after sold the car you still owe the bank some 30k nod.gif
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post Mar 3 2015, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(sai_is @ Mar 3 2015, 11:52 AM)
Hi..

Just need clarification.. when is the time to change timing belt?

1. 80000km
2. 90000km
3. 120000km (as per service booklet)

What is FEAD?

my flx is already 80167km

Pls also advise the less expansive way for timing belt replacement.
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Get it changed as soon as once clocked 80k km and or above. Try not to stretch it too much. By right, it is still safe to use, but who knows? Getting the belt changed will only cost you some RM300~400. Breaking the belt may cost you the engine overhaul of RM2000. You decide. Remember to change the belt tensioner as well. It's a little expansive, some RM120 if not mistaken. Usually technician will ask you to skip that, but what if before your next belt change then the bearing koyak? It's a good chance you gotta spend another 200~300 to open up the timing belt and change the tensioner again doh.gif

QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 3 2015, 12:24 PM)
between 80k-120k. check the timing belt condition first.
FEAD belt is aircond belt.
change at outside workshop. iinm change timing belt around rm3xx.xx.
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Sudah la bukak, lagi mau cek? Trus tukak lar laugh.gif
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post Mar 3 2015, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(wkwong91 @ Mar 3 2015, 01:28 PM)
ex-knight rider.  wave.gif
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post Mar 5 2015, 06:01 AM

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QUOTE(tysmiracle @ Mar 4 2015, 10:21 PM)
Hahah thank you, I also scared U ask me bai vios hahahah ^^ me no $$$$
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Go UMW, ask them install VIOS alarm, then ensure put TRD spoiler, then it's all good nod.gif
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post Mar 5 2015, 06:07 AM

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QUOTE(tysmiracle @ Mar 4 2015, 11:40 PM)
I wonder if I change the alarm system means proton stock key the both button won't be using it already right?
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Due to crappy Plotong keys
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Have changed to Toyol Kamri
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post Mar 5 2015, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(tysmiracle @ Mar 5 2015, 09:13 AM)
I also wanna change alarm and key d, but when u change the key is there anything need to be concern like immobilizer? I Have no idea how it works
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afaik, certain reputable alarm module can be attach with Plotong immo module, only the reputable 1s. Other ciplak may not. If go for ciplak, usually undertree magician will take out 1 of the immo, plant it at the steering column so your car can setat - however, it may kill the fuel pam immaturely due to 24/7 activation by immo. drfeelgood has changed his alarm module without kacauing ori Plotong immo.

QUOTE(iskazulka @ Mar 5 2015, 09:25 AM)
David change key housing only le. Immo transfer to new key. Iinm, change alarm system, kena change new key. Old immo will not work. 3rd party i dunno, but if change new plotong alarm will get 2 new key set with immo. If wrong please correct me. But to me stock alarm sufficient. Plotong car only ma. Buy vios la if everything mau change.
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As above.
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post Mar 5 2015, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(tysmiracle @ Mar 4 2015, 07:43 PM)
May I ask, my saga flx 2012 standard, idk why recently after I lock my car at night and go to sleep. The time between 11pm to 8am the alarm will go off, I go sc (puchong) the foreman like don't even know what he is doing, he say my car metal morning hot kembang, night cold so censor lost touch, so he deactivated my front bonnet censor but problem still persist. Anyone had any idea?
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When the alarm set off midnight while you weren't able to sleep, had to disarm it, please don't do it inside the house. Take the opportunity walk out to the porch look into the dashboard cluster, see whether the door opened indicator is lite up? If yes, good chance is 1 or more of your 4 door switch malfunction/stuck. If there's no door opened indicator whilst alarm automatically set off, then it's possibly due to the rear boot lock switch.

Solution for door switch:
Open up the condom, spray conductive lubricant(namely Q20) into the shaft. Press/release a few times and respray lubricant again just to make sure everytime you release the switch, cabin light will lite up. Check also if the shaft is bent, if it is, see whether you can push it back straight so the shaft can thrust properly.
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Solution for rear boot locking mechanism:
Use a screw driver to press the middle "tongue"(spray lubricant before/after press the tongue) until it clicks, don't shut the lid yet. Go back to your driver seat and pull the lever to release. Go to the back and shut the boot. Go back to driver seat and pull the lever to release again. Spray lubricant on the tongue again, use screw driver and press the tongue again until it's lock, then spray lubricant again. Once again, do not shut the lid, go back to driver seat and pull lever to release. You may use your key to open the lock after you press the "tongue", so you don't have to go back/forth.
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Good luck in troubleshooting. This is as far I can share, the others need extensive experience.
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post Mar 6 2015, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Mar 6 2015, 07:46 PM)
david, what do u think about 2 leg braking technique?
i find brake force increase a lot becos pedal can reach bottom easier than 1 leg. especially if the car stopping power is weak

also practising left foot braking at the same time
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I only practice LFB when going on track, and particularly hyper speed corners. It's a very good method to use foot brake to limit rear tyre traction, whilst front wheels are continue sprint forward, by having easy weight shifting, 1 can practice minimal steering action, yet the car is changing to your direction
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post Mar 7 2015, 07:45 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Mar 7 2015, 01:52 AM)
usually for auto gear. the pedal is wide.
manual gear have to step left foot only
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U listen to him point u to holland lar. That bugger is a veteran ady yawn.gif Ebo owner impossibulu can't do LFB geh whistling.gif
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post Mar 7 2015, 07:46 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Mar 7 2015, 07:38 AM)
put ur foot higher position. Thats the key.
gaga can do it no problem icon_rolleyes.gif
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U r the inspaliah gai from pinang rite hmm.gif
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post Mar 7 2015, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(TitanRev @ Mar 7 2015, 08:09 AM)
Gaga can do heel n toe.

If u say not pushing out exhaust fast enough means the exhaust gas flow is restrictive or it colds down too fast due to too big exhaust piping n becomes heavy and need more energy to push it out. I don't think adding a billet will help much.
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Sometimes, it takes an extra chamber to buffer air speed, rather than straight flow whistling.gif From where these people get the idea of adding a bullet will make the exhaust flow faster yawn.gif
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post Mar 7 2015, 08:34 AM

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Quazacolt



The handling "issue" that has been discussed by TDi, the drop spindle design for TT made it so versatile that it almost can make a 90' sharp turn at any speed without flipping over the car. The trouble is, even the commentator said it wasn't safe to drive at high speed due to the over agility. Hence factory made a recall, removed the "weapon" from the car and from MKII onwards, they handled NORMAL and with lots of understeer laugh.gif
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post Mar 7 2015, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(n3w @ Mar 7 2015, 10:29 AM)

Ader inspilah nak sponsor fuel aiyaaaa whistling.gif

Would dyno-ing my car tell what's wrong with my gaga exhaust flow? Reading from articles muffler do little effect on exhaust flow. But wa mia stock muffler teruk kah? At least it is silent. tongue.gif
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post Mar 8 2015, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(sheepherder @ Mar 7 2015, 04:05 PM)
Hi all, went to paint shop to ask about painting my Saga rear boot cover, was replaced with stock spare part(black) after accident. So now want to repaint same colour as body.

Got quote RM350 for paint the whole thing outside and also inside. Consider okay OR expensive? Should look for other shop?

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Metallic 350 is reasonable. Solid should be 200. Spray paint usually not expansive due to pricing availability and competitive. However, if talking about knock body/restore job, that is very subjective. You wouldn't know whether you pay cheap, the knock job will be good; neither will you know if you paid expansive the restore job is up on par. The only shop that I trust for knock job is in Kuala Pilah, but wouldn't go that far just for the heck of knocking out a small dent on my fender and bonnet yawn.gif Other than that 1, you may consider Satria(authorized Plotong SC) at 227

http://protonservicecentre.blogspot.com/

The last I got quoted to restore my bonnet+fender+solid white paint job for RM350 nia.
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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Mar 7 2015, 07:30 PM)
Thanks for the reply, much appreciated smile.gif
Wondering; why is the labor charge different for front vs. rear ?
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Previously discussed, for BLM/FL designed, the front and back is different setup. The front bearing is 1 piece design, the whole spindle is coupled in the bearing. The front bearing itself is already RM300ish. Whereas the rear bearing is flat tapper roller bearing, costing is much cheaper at the range of RM60~100 depending on brand/quality.

Viceversa for FLX, the front and back bearing are same type, both are 1 piece design. Be it front or back, is around RM300ish.

Labor charge for changing bearings for a front wheel drive car, usually the front is more expansive because it require to detached more driving related parts before can take out the bearing, whereas the rear has nothing there other than the braking equipment. For a rear wheel drive car, on average basis both front and back are equally expansive like a FWD front module changing bearing. And ofcourse, for a 4x4, both front and back bearing changing labor charge is averagely more expansive than FWD and RWD regardless because both front and back are related with driving/steering equipment.

On an unrelated note, please also check your tyre condition before jump into conclusion. Do not tell foreman what to change. They hate it much when customer behave xingalan and definitely will give you a piece. Walk in, be humble and tell them you hear humming noise. If the foreman gonna test drive your car, please politely insist you're following on the passenger seat. Tell them what you hear, when you hear, under what circumstances the noise will appear. Ask pricing after diagnostic, be sure if you think the price is outrages, tell them your concern and ask why. There's no way you argue with foreman because your life is on their hand, the bad 1 I've experienced, all they gotta do is purposely FORGOT to tie the locking pin, my bearing lock nut fly off and my Ganjil lose a wheel while driving doh.gif There's absofuckinglutely no point to hide your financial weakness infront of foreman also, these foreman usually richfag and doesn't like customer walk in like a you're on a different category. If you feel the damn thing is over your current budget, just gradually tell them you're short of how much, discuss if there's alternative that will meet your budget whilst get things done.

If you're within Klang valley, highly recommend our very own nestum shop in Jalan Ipoh. 1 of the best tayar shop I've visited.
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QUOTE(wanfauzan @ Mar 7 2015, 06:42 PM)
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Found this gem at daiso flex.gif
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Go to passenger side, squat and hang the damn thing behind your shift console. That is the exact place where your aircond receiver withdraw air. The funky smell after rain are all due to wet carpet/moist in cabin, and receiver is the 1 taking all the air from the carpet and blow them right on your face! I myself being too lazy, just chuck it inside my glove box compartment sweat.gif

QUOTE(poweredbydiscuz @ Mar 7 2015, 08:16 PM)
Tried this before. It made the car cabin very 'dry'. Breathing dry air is no fun... So I dump it to trunk.
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You preferred to breath moist air? blink.gif No offense please, such small pack of charcoal weren't enough to dry up active flowing air at high speed. Unless you shut yourself in the cabin drive for 5 hours straight exposed under hot sun with all windows shut. At its best, that pack of charcoal will help to dry up certain area when the car is unoccupied.

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Let's not forget, human body fluid is consistently releasing moisture to the atmosphere, your saliva, your smelly sweat, your nose discharge when you sneeze laugh.gif

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If you're free enough, can read the PDF also. Even sleeping bag also they do research on how human moist will affect laugh.gif cigaoxin

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post Mar 8 2015, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(wanfauzan @ Mar 8 2015, 09:26 AM)
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Do you mean here? I was thinking to put that thing above the cabin filter.
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Masok atas kabin filter? Camni ke?



The package too fat, won't fit laugh.gif Your's is FLX rite? The receiver door open from the right, correct? If FL/Shawie, even worst. Masok boley, but wanna take out that time... cry.gif You'll probably scared the package get wrecked and drop those charcoal into the blower fan doh.gif

p/s: If you rajin enough, can go buy those kopi filter, open up the daiso pack and fill it into the kopi filter make it smaller package then can fit in the cabin filter liao laugh.gif

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post Mar 8 2015, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Mar 8 2015, 12:38 PM)
Is it the same for BLM too ?
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If you're referring to the aircond blower receiver intake, yes that's the same place both BLM/FLX draw air from. Which is also why if you have a passenger with yeti foot, your whole car smells like a rotten corpse because the aircond receiver draw air from that exact place where passenger place their feet doh.gif

Nope it's not a design flaw. Not only our crappy Plotong GaGa, all other cars draw air from the lowest possible place in front of the car, for the reason of colder air is more dense, hence aircond design is always trying to draw colder air to maximize their cooling performance.

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