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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V), Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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wil-i-am
post Jun 26 2015, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 26 2015, 06:40 AM)
Can. Got few units of as1m from them before.
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Perhaps now can
Last visit in Jan 15 n was informed systems not redy yet
wil-i-am
post Jun 26 2015, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jun 26 2015, 06:27 AM)
Yea yea.
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wil-i-am
post Jun 26 2015, 08:35 AM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 26 2015, 08:11 AM)
Rm1k-2k considered big amount?
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post Jun 26 2015, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jun 25 2015, 10:25 PM)
They can't execute ASM transaction
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ASM change to use new passbook / new account no format which need to use new system.

When it start some POS also cannot do ASM tx.

First system must be ready in bank before they can do ASM.
Next , whether staff already trained on how to use.

As I know, new system seems is slower., no sure line slow or system slow.

When they tell cannot do ASM?
But, now it already few months, u can try to check see they can do ASM now.
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post Jun 26 2015, 10:57 AM

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System no problem. The problem is the staff.

How can they say agent can't do penambahan.
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post Jun 26 2015, 12:07 PM

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Amanah Saham Didik C/FWRD 4.09sen to next financial year as reserved... According to Tan Sri Hamad Kama Piah Che Othman, the fund have the capability to give a payout of 11.83sen but they just pay 6.6sen

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post Jun 26 2015, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 26 2015, 12:07 PM)
Amanah Saham Didik C/FWRD 4.09sen to next financial year as reserved... According to Tan Sri Hamad Kama Piah Che Othman, the fund have the capability to give a payout of 11.83sen but they just pay 6.6sen 

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Wah, sangat bagus/kuat ini!

Wish the fixed funds can do as well. Wishful thinking?

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post Jun 26 2015, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Jun 26 2015, 12:33 PM)
Wah, sangat bagus/kuat ini!

Wish the fixed funds can do as well. Wishful thinking?
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I donno why ASD always c/fwrd a lot compare with others ASx funds blink.gif

yeah, I hope others ASx would also do well...

can give 6.6sen also okay la considering the bad market now blush.gif

This post has been edited by nexona88: Jun 26 2015, 12:38 PM
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post Jun 26 2015, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 26 2015, 12:37 PM)
I donno why ASD always c/fwrd a lot compare with others ASx funds  blink.gif

yeah, I hope others ASx would also do well...

can give 6.6sen also okay la considering the bad market now  blush.gif
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Means the overall funds performance is all right for all asx.

Just that the klci is influencing the asg so much...

If the price is 1.22 the roi will be 16++
If the price is 1.07 like today, roi will be 2++


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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jun 26 2015, 01:28 PM)
Means the overall funds performance is all right for all asx.

Just that the klci is influencing the asg so much...

If the price is 1.22 the roi will be 16++
If the price is 1.07 like today, roi will be 2++
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If u have been holding > 1 yr, suggest to use IRR instead of ROI
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post Jun 26 2015, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jun 26 2015, 01:32 PM)
If u have been holding > 1 yr, suggest to use IRR instead of ROI
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Hold 3 yrs already...

I got read also roi not suitable for long term investment
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post Jun 26 2015, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 26 2015, 12:37 PM)
I donno why ASD always c/fwrd a lot compare with others ASx funds  blink.gif

yeah, I hope others ASx would also do well...

can give 6.6sen also okay la considering the bad market now  blush.gif
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ASD is for Bumi only, perhaps they are following the ASB/ASB2 portfolio, so can get better return, as good as 11%
The different is ASB earn 11%, they pay out 8%, 3% carry forward, but ASD only pay 6.6% and keep the remaining.
If ASD pay higher than AS1M, ASW, ASM, bumi investors may switch their fund to ASD account instead.
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post Jun 26 2015, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jun 26 2015, 01:39 PM)
ASD is for Bumi only, perhaps they are following the ASB/ASB2 portfolio, so can get better return, as good as 11%
The different is ASB earn 11%, they pay out 8%, 3% carry forward, but ASD only pay 6.6% and keep the remaining.
If ASD pay higher than AS1M, ASW, ASM, bumi investors may switch their fund to ASD account instead.
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good leh give higher divvy rate.. can see more take up rate.. Now I see also veli pity.. 5bil units only & it's the smallest among FP ASx (ex ASB2 which is very new but might over take ASD next year rolleyes.gif)...


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post Jun 26 2015, 04:26 PM

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Full announcement from ASNB on ASD dividend
http://www.asnb.com.my/pdf/BERITA/2015/20150626_ASD2015.pdf
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post Jun 26 2015, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Jun 26 2015, 01:28 PM)
Means the overall funds performance is all right for all asx.

Just that the klci is influencing the asg so much...

If the price is 1.22 the roi will be 16++
If the price is 1.07 like today, roi will be 2++
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Actually all ASx is influence by KLCI performance (in term of NAV) but because FP ASx @ RM 1 all time.. u don't lose in bad market time like now.. only those Variable Pricing ASx lose out...

but when good time VP ASx profit while FP ASx lose out because "real" NAV could be above rm1 sad.gif

btw sifu mention that Latest Elliott wave points to KLCI below 1700 ohmy.gif

This post has been edited by nexona88: Jun 26 2015, 04:38 PM
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post Jun 26 2015, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Jun 26 2015, 04:26 PM)
Full announcement from ASNB on ASD dividend
http://www.asnb.com.my/pdf/BERITA/2015/20150626_ASD2015.pdf
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Public news always faster than asnb
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post Jun 26 2015, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jun 26 2015, 04:34 PM)
Public news always faster than asnb
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Actually the ASD divvy news already out in ASNB FB page last night.. Around the same time u post here sweat.gif

when I saw it, wanna post here but u already post it blush.gif

This post has been edited by nexona88: Jun 26 2015, 04:41 PM
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post Jun 26 2015, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 26 2015, 04:34 PM)
Actually all ASx is influence by KLCI performance (in term of NAV) but because FP ASx @ RM 1  all time.. u don't lose in bad market time like now.. only those Variable Pricing ASx lose out...

but when good time VP ASx profit while FP ASx lose out because "real" NAV could be above rm1  sad.gif

btw sifu mention that Latest Elliott wave points to KLCI below 1700  ohmy.gif
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Yea. Exactly.
When do klci will bounce back to 1.8k. And this also bring danger I suppose because we don't know what is the actual price of fixed price funds.
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post Jun 26 2015, 04:49 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 26 2015, 04:41 PM)
Actually the ASD divvy news already out in ASNB FB page last night.. Around the same time u post hereĀ  sweat.gif

when I saw it, wanna post here but u already post itĀ  blush.gif
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U follow their facebook fans page?

This post has been edited by cheahcw2003: Jun 26 2015, 04:51 PM
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post Jun 26 2015, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Jun 26 2015, 04:49 PM)
U follow their facebook fans page?
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yup I follow their FB page..

good info rclxms.gif

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Amanah-Saham...066?sk=timeline

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