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hafizushi
post Feb 13 2015, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 12 2015, 10:49 PM)
Probably we might get block 3 with less features like the stealth weapons pod and so on.
I think we might opt for cft though.
Anyway the questions is do we have the $$$.
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I hope we integrate with cft and the irst, we should at least have that from the latest block 3/advance super hornet version feature

for radar, aesa radar already in block 2 so we should get that maybe just get the better version
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post Feb 13 2015, 01:35 AM

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QUOTE(AxeFire @ Feb 13 2015, 01:29 AM)
Su-30 MKM + F-18EF fleet hnggzzz

30 Su 30

50 F 18
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Plz add 20 F 35

Btw why only 30 su30 make it 50

Or 30 Su 30, 20 su55/50

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hafizushi
post Feb 13 2015, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Feb 13 2015, 01:05 AM)
i have good wet dream idea for our RMAF Jet replacement/planing ....
- 8 unit F18F for Butterworth AB squadron.
- 12-18 unit EF2000 at Labuan AB
- 12-18 unit Rafale at Kuantan AB
- 12 unit Gripen at new Sedaiyan AB for Capital/Airport protection
- 12-16 unit FC31 in kuching AB
Every jet supporter will happy ... all AB have own type jet Support/parts。
than our pilot have all best all jet combat experience
10 year later ...
new F35 squadron at Butteworh AB, Su-55 at Gong kedah AB

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i kind a like the idea to have gripen to replace the f5 since the gripen is a single engine type while the super hornet is to replace the mig29 since total fighter jet going to decommision this year is like 10 mig29 with 18 f5 so total 28 fighter.

mine we should have 18 Advance super hornet + 18 Gripen NG, but ofcourse to procure in stages this round focus on replacing the mig29 first

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ayanami_tard
post Feb 13 2015, 02:00 AM

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I'd rather if current combat aircraft being streamlined to Su-30 and F/A-18 family aircraft. it would make no sense (yes i know,diversification policy) to have a small number of up to 4,5 totally different aircrafts for the hell of it.
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Feb 13 2015, 02:00 AM)
I'd rather if current combat aircraft being streamlined to Su-30 and F/A-18 family aircraft. it would make no sense (yes i know,diversification policy) to have a small number of up to 4,5 totally different aircrafts for the hell of it.
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Many good air force has streamlined fleet

See RAF, France,RAAF, JADF all have 1 or 2 types of main fighter
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post Feb 13 2015, 02:12 AM

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post Feb 13 2015, 02:13 AM

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40 Su-30
25 Su-50

40 f-18
20 f-35

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TSyinchet
post Feb 13 2015, 02:22 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Feb 13 2015, 01:05 AM)
i have good wet dream idea for our RMAF Jet replacement/planing ....
- 8 unit F18F for Butterworth AB squadron.
- 12-18 unit EF2000 at Labuan AB
- 12-18 unit Rafale at Kuantan AB
- 12 unit Gripen at new Sedaiyan AB for Capital/Airport protection
- 12-16 unit FC31 in kuching AB
Every jet supporter will happy ... all AB have own type jet Support/parts。
than our pilot have all best all jet combat experience
10 year later ...
new F35 squadron at Butteworh AB, Su-55 at Gong kedah AB

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You wanna buka pasar malam?
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post Feb 13 2015, 02:47 AM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Feb 13 2015, 02:22 AM)
You wanna buka pasar malam?
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Pasar malam at it's best

better to have a large quantity fighter aircraft and keep their type in small number rclxms.gif

looking at Israel and Singapore they only operating two type fighter F-16 Sufa and F-15i
KYPMbangi
post Feb 13 2015, 06:47 AM

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I support the jet streamlining

Heavy - MKM
Medium - Hornet
Light - Hawk
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post Feb 13 2015, 08:31 AM

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Super Hornet pilihan terbaik. Tapi banyak lagi aspek lain yang diambil kira sebelum keputusan dibuat, contohnya offset.
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QUOTE(Lumiaaa @ Feb 13 2015, 02:13 AM)
40 Su-30
25 Su-50

40 f-18
20 f-35

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$$$ from petronas channel to defense for 1 decade maybe boleh..
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post Feb 13 2015, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Feb 13 2015, 08:44 AM)
$$$ from petronas channel to defense for 1 decade maybe boleh..
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Insurance for Petronas

Later someone take our oil then how ???
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QUOTE(trollboy @ Feb 13 2015, 06:00 AM)
18 mkm gong kedak
18 super horny butterworth

18 mkm labuan
18 super horny kota kinabalu

Best
Better than buying like 5 types of diff fighter
Maybe add su-35 to def kl
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Add on Su 50 / f35 for kl

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post Feb 13 2015, 10:33 AM

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Egypt become the 1st foreign buyer of the Dassault Rafale fighter jets.

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France: Egypt 1st Foreign Buyer of French Rafale Fighters

PARIS — Feb 12, 2015, 5:45 PM ET
By JAMEY KEATEN Associated Press
Associated Press

Egypt will become the first foreign buyer of Rafale fighter jets, French officials said Thursday, purchasing 24 of the multi-role French-made aircraft as part of a 5.2 billion-euro (US$5.93 billion) defense deal that will strengthen Cairo's military might in a tense and violent region.

The sale marks the culmination of years of French efforts to sell the Dassault Aviation-built planes. It will also confirm international recognition of an aircraft that has been used in combat missions over places like Mali, Libya and most recently Iraq, as part of both national and international operations.

"It's the first export contract for the Rafale. Up until now, only the French state bought the Rafale," French President Francois Hollande told reporters in Brussels, adding that Egypt had been seeking "aircraft quickly, due to the threats that it faces."

"I believe that, given the current context, it's very important that Egypt is able to act to uphold stability and to be in security, not only stability on its own territory, but stability in the region," Hollande said.

French Defense Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian will be dispatched to Cairo on Monday to sign the accord, Hollande's office said in a statement.

A French Defense Ministry official, speaking only on condition that his name not be used because of ministry protocol, said the total value of the sale was 5.2 billion euros. A company spokesman and a spokesman for Egypt's Army could not immediately be reached for comment.

The Rafale has been in service for France's air force since 2006, and started flying air support in Afghanistan the following year. In Libya in 2011, the Rafale took up tasks including no-fly zone enforcement, air-to-ground strikes, reconnaissance, and overflight missions. Rafales had a key role in that NATO campaign — based solely on airpower — that helped rebel fighters topple longtime dictator Moammar Gadhafi.

While it excelled in the skies, the Rafale had trouble finding a foreign buyer because of its high cost, complexity and design — a marked shift from the Mirage, France's previous-generation fighter. Deals for Brazil, Libya, Morocco and Switzerland all fell through, often at the last minute.

Egypt, a decades-long American ally whose army receives up to $1.3 billion in military aid from Washington each year, has been seeking to diversify its arms providers. Its military remains largely U.S. trained and equipped, but Russian news agency Interfax said this week that Moscow has $3.5 billion in new contracts with Cairo for military aircraft, air defense missiles and other weapons.

The Egyptian deal came together with unusual speed for a big-ticket defense accord. Egyptian President Abdel-Fattah el-Sissi first discussed a possible buy of Rafales and the FREMM frigate when Le Drian visited Cairo in mid-September, according to the French defense official.

Gen. Mohammed el-Assar, a top aide to el-Sissi, led the talks for Egypt, the official said. In an unusual breach of traditional protocol, El-Sissi requested a dinner meeting with the French minister in November and specified the number of planes he wanted with the frigate. Last month, at the crowning of the new Saudi king, the Egyptian leader discussed the deal again with Hollande and Le Drian.


http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireSt...ghters-28925081

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post Feb 13 2015, 11:23 AM

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Boeing Offers 'Extremely Affordable' Super Hornet Deal To Malaysia

KUALA LUMPUR, Feb 12 (Bernama) -- The Boeing Company has a distinct advantage over its competitors in offering its Super Hornet jet fighter deal to Malaysia as the aircraft represents an "extremely affordable" offering over the long-term.

The global aircraft manufacturer also stands ready to assist Malaysia in dealing with funding challenges in acquiring the high-endurance fighter jets, more so, due to financial constraints brought on by the global economic slowdown.

"No aircraft in this competition will come close to the affordability that the Super Hornet brings," Howard M Berry, Boeing vice-president for F/A18E/F international sales, global strike, defense, space & security told Bernama.

"When you look at the total lifecycle cost, from acquisition to support for the aircraft throughout its lifetime, including training, logistics and eventually taking the aircraft out of service, the support typically takes up 70 per cent," he said.

He said that Boeing was aware that every nation, including Malaysia, faced challenges at the moment due to falling oil prices and weaker currencies. However, he expressed optimism that "in an ever changing world, oil prices will rebound."

"We have been discussing and working with the Malaysian government. We can do a lot of things financially and deal with any funding challenges it may have in the near term. "At the end of the day, it will obviously be a political decision and we have to see how that plays out," Berry said.

Boeing has been negotiating since 2002 on the Super Hornet deal with the Royal Malaysian Air Force, which currently operates eight earlier generation Classic Hornets, the F/A-18Ds.

"We are prepared to stay engaged. This is an important sale for us. We will do everything possible to facilitate the acquisition when the government is ready to move ahead," he said.

According to Berry, the version of the Super Hornet to be sold to Malaysia is called the Block II, which went into operation in 2007, and could easily integrate into current aircraft systems as Malaysia has already been flying the Super Hornet.

Also, the Super Hornet has only been flying for about seven to eight years, making it arguably the newest aircraft in service with the US military.

Berry said so far the aircraft has 1.4 million plus flight hours, thus it is a mature aircraft and operationally relevant. Berry said the benefit that RMAF would get is that the Super Hornet is of a low-risk design.

"When you buy from my competitors, their aircraft are relatively immature and have immature key systems, most notably the radar. They are still developing the active electronically scanned array (AESA) radar," he added.

He said the Super Hornet is flying the most advanced AESA radar, the APG-79 by Raytheon, which is without doubt at the forefront of AESA technology and combat-proven. Berry also noted that the Super Hornet F/A-18E/Fs is extremely well suited for its roles.

However, he said that Malaysia has some issues to deal with, such as very long coastlines, Sabah's invasion, maritime patrol as well as air superiority challenges.

"To deal with, you need to have patrol capability. Super Hornet aircraft, for an example, brings the range, the persistent. It brings the two-seat cockpit and twin engines. Twin engines are key, any pilot who spends a lot of time over water will tell you that they like having twin engines.

"The F/A18F is certainly well suited for maritime operations. The two-seat cockpit is key (and) when you are out there over water, looking to exercise sea line control and maritime surveillance, having those second pair of eyes in the jet is important," he said.

At the Langkawi Maritime and Aerospace Exhibition 2001, Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak, who was defence minister then, flew on the F/A-18 E/F Super Hornet fighter, making him the first defence minister to fly on the two-seater fighter jet piloted by Boeing chief test pilot Dave Desmond.

A unit of The Boeing Company, Boeing Defense, Space & Security is one of the world's largest defence, space and security businesses specialising in innovative and capabilities-driven customer solutions, and the world's largest and most versatile manufacturer of military aircraft.

-- BERNAMA


http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v8/bu/newsb....php?id=1108523

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So if we getting SH, dats mean we will have 2 type heavy fighter lah
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Feb 13 2015, 06:47 AM)
I support the jet streamlining

Heavy - MKM
Medium - Hornet
Light - Hawk
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Yup streamline the airforce wpuld be the best for us.
heavy-mkm
medium-unhold till 5th generation available
light-gripen
Lift-Hawk

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QUOTE(azriel @ Feb 13 2015, 10:33 AM)
Egypt become the 1st foreign buyer of the Dassault Rafale fighter jets.
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireSt...ghters-28925081
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Crazy price tag

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Boeing so aggressive to contract.
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QUOTE(bai1101 @ Feb 13 2015, 12:45 PM)
Boeing so aggressive to contract.
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They can sense the blood in the water, with the expansion of China and agressive Indonesian arms buying, they figured Malaysia must at least be looking at modern weapons systems to boost defense.

Well, another man's war is another man's meal ticket I guess. laugh.gif

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