Cmiiw the ground pressure of a tracked vehicle is lower than a wheeled vehicle. With that kind of mud even a Wheeled IFV would got stuck in that mud.

China has sell a lot of their type 59 MBT to many African countries, Bangladesh, Vietnam (during the Vietnam war), Pakistan, and Iraq-Iran.

Their F-7 type aircraft is a hit too with many air forces like Pakistan, Nigeria, Bangladesh, Tanzania, Myanmar and so on.






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"So the requirement is 3 men crew, autoloader, 50 tonnes class (maybe max 55)
Is there a non-russian tanks that fill all this?"

there is many to fit your criteria

Pok Pong Ho, Al Khalid, Chon Ma Ho, M84, M-95 Degman, Type59G, Type 96G, Type 90 Kyu Maru

I heard UAE have some problem with their leclerc.

support asia, K2 used same auto loader mechanic as leclerc. Thus, the rather similar flat turret

iinm, it about the tank upgrade program.. UAE think france should pay for the tank upgrade

I wanna put spoiler & turbo for my Perdana, probably should ask Proton to pay for it.

PT-91 is fine for now. We just need the heavier ERA. The ERAWA maybe fine againt HEAT, but i have doubt about it's capability against APFSDS.

nearly all of these are derivatives of T series tanks, they're basically still russian

Funny anecdote from Ukraine civil war.
Russian volunteer with military experience teach separatists to remove ERA blocks from totalled Ukraine government tanks to use for demolition charge or IED. When they actually get a tank, they find out the blocks were empty of explosives, only the metal cover is left. Turns out Ukraine gov soldiers removed them and sold the explsoives on black market earlier.

french is in midst of upgrading their leclerc while still delivering UAE ones

UAE wanted their subsequent delivery to be upgraded to the same france level but france dont want unless UAE pay.

Something like l order 20 car from proton, on the 10th car, Proton introduce a new improved model but on my remaining 10 order, Proton dont not want to send the improved version and only send the previous version

something like that when i read around

Hahaha damn kedekut this pak arab. If you sign contract for vanilla version of leclerc, you get vanilla version of leclercs la.

UAE pay for leclarc development. Basically, French get it cheaper per unit thanks to UAE financial help

So there something along the line, UAE feel that they should not be left out. But it solved somehow

http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/general/...or-uae-1.350669

Currently watching Special Forces-Philippine Marine recon on History channel.

OMG, In the middle of parachute jump test (only using just ONE Huey helicopter no less, bcoz Pinoys totally don't have any flying airplanes) which landing zone is actually a village-side rice paddy field, complete with village children and herds of water buffalos running around (which is ridiculous in itself), as if compounding the sheer ridiculousness,the sole Huey helicopter was called away, mid-test, due to some of clashes with communist guerrillas in another part of country, so jump test is postponed a few days until helicopter is available.

It's so distressingly ridiculous, made me ROFL and shed tears in bewilderment at the ridiculousness of it all.

This post has been edited by MilitaryMadness: Feb 15 2015, 11:10 PM

Go try watch PNP-SAF documentary, really long history involved in several political coup being on the side of the "people", while the military is on marcos side after that resulting in their decades of negligence and underfunding. All SAF operators black beret is earned after a test mission, encounter the enemy and come back alive then you can "graduate"

Oh well, that is all before the maguindanao massacre happened..

In the past Pinoy have a ridiculously strong Naval and Air force, not to mention they have hundreds of light and Medium tanks too like Sherman, Chaffee, Walker Bulldog, Scorpion and hundreds APC/IFV like Cage Cadillac Commando and M113 since 67-77 era

just how low they have fallen today

This post has been edited by madoka: Feb 15 2015, 11:22 PM

the MA uses dirtbikes for that no?

Indonesian military to increase number of personnel guarding borderlines

Minggu, 15 Februari 2015 10:47 WIB | 328 Views

Nunukan, N Kalimantan (ANTARA News) - The Indonesian Defense Forces (TNI) will increase the number of its personnel to guard Indonesia-Malasyia borderlines, a military commander has said.

"We are planning to increase the number of soldiers who will be assigned to guard and maintain security along the border areas," Brig Gen Teguh Arief Indratmo, the chief of 091/ASN Military Resort of VI Mulawarman Regional Military Command, said here over the weekend.

He said that now there were 33 security guard posts along the border areas. The number will be increased to 50. The new posts will be built in strategic coordinate points.

The security posts will be built in border areas which are very difficult to be reached by soldiers now. "Of course this plan needs strategic considerations, assessment and surveys," he added.

Indratmoko said his side was still considering the number of soldiers to man the new 17 posts.

"The number of personnel for each of the post will differ from one to another, depending on the conditions in the area," he said.(*)

Antara News?

This post has been edited by madoka: Feb 15 2015, 11:30 PM

Dirtbike carry ATGM?

Philippines army back then was the extension of US army. When the Philippines generals need something, they just called pentagon and it'll be promptly delivered free of charge. When US withdraw, they suddenly found out how costly and complicated it is to supply and equipped a modern army.

could be a light ATGM like Eryx or Metis.