nearly all of these are derivatives of T series tanks, they're basically still russian

where did you get this information from? or are you just extrapolating data from iraqi T-72s and thinking that it applies to the T-90? as for the insurgent weapons, it doesn't mean much given the fact that even the Challenger 2 was penetrated by a RPG29.

failure in chechnya was not due to the tank design, but to the tactics employed by the russians. they sent tanks without any infantry support right into urban environments and got their arses handed back to them. any tank caught in this situation no matter the model will be utterly destroyed.



how about the war in vietnam? the americans lost over 50k dead, and was bogged down for over 10 years. does that show american armour is inferior to the soviets?

you do know that your example is really poor in making your point. afghan war featured very few armour on armour engagements (if at all), and fighting was against an american-armed guerilla-fighter foe.



This post has been edited by pziv2: Feb 19 2015, 08:00 PM

you do know that several merkavas have been destroyed and their crews killed by Kornets fired from a long range, right?

it's just too juicy not to argue about, that's why you have threads with 50+ pages going on about Leo2 vs M1, T90 vs M1, Challenger2 vs Merkava, etc etc. it's really quite entertaining to compare, just like kerolzarmyfanboy said - NVIDIA vs AMD.

that said it really veers topics off course.