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avenger
post Oct 18 2006, 01:59 PM

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QUOTE(john_teng @ Oct 18 2006, 12:29 PM)
avenger, I will not write anymore on this thread after this post. I hope I will not be accused to inducing anything to demean yourself.

It is not my intention to put judgement here. I am only wish to state that since Espionage have openly acknowledge of his mistake on his packaging, you should use it for your advantage. The warranty period is controversy subject to personnal interpretion and term. The DELL and autoshop is only the example.

Lastly I hope both of you can settle this dispute in a amicably manner. Please do not bother to reply this post as it may do more damage to your character. BYE and GOODLUCK
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dont use ur judgement to judge other ppl. you are not judge and you will not be. stop assuming and dont bother to reply to this post.

p/s : i wont take advantage of his fault. its him that admit his fault. if you are not happy over the fact that he admitted his own fault, go fart urself. miss teng teng teng teng teng teng teng teng teng teng teng teng teng teng. u not happy over my post towards u? its fine, i feel the same too. so we are even. now, go have your own life judge ppl using your assumption.
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post Oct 18 2006, 02:11 PM

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avenger...
read back ur post and u wil know wat is rude....
i believe everyone that is reading the post felt the same
i have no intention to comment anything on this issue between u and Espionage but i juz felt that u r starting being againts people that post their comment in this thread...
if u cant accept bad comments that (people siding Espionage), then pls dun post this thread....ok
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post Oct 18 2006, 02:24 PM

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ok fine. u all newbies talk so damn loud nowadays, imagine you people become mod/staff one day, i will consider this place become sarang tikus.

My proposed solution :

1. black list Espionage
2. Refund me RM 60.
3. ban Espionage
4. Return me a processor (1ghz at least, since that is the thing that is spoilt)

if solution 2 and 4 cannot be fulfilled, i will ask se7en to consider making decisions between 1 and 3, since seller pretend donno already (the seller NEVER SAY SORRY since beginning of time I told him things is spoilt, hell good of businessman)

and for miss teng teng and miss tang tang82, dont reply here anymore, i will go ahead reply your post 1 by 1 in good manner.
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post Oct 18 2006, 08:50 PM

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john_teng, either start to make sense, or just shut up.

to the rest of you, stay on topic please.

any more crap posts like that from any of you and i will most certainly start deleting.
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post Oct 19 2006, 02:22 AM

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Avenger have you told espionage on your suggested solutions? unsure.gif
What was his answer? unsure.gif


OT: avenger, you are a member with 352 posts but a senior member? rclxub.gif i tot 500 posts only upgraded to senior member? unsure.gif
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Following the advice from other mods/TS, please stick to the topic and any future posts which contribute nothing to the discussion will be deleted on sight and user will be suspended for 3 days.

Thank you.
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post Oct 19 2006, 08:28 AM

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QUOTE(fruitie @ Oct 19 2006, 02:22 AM)
Avenger have you told espionage on your suggested solutions? unsure.gif
What was his answer? unsure.gif
OT: avenger, you are a member with 352 posts but a senior member? rclxub.gif i tot 500 posts only upgraded to senior member? unsure.gif
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my posts actually more than you. my post count was reset when i have around 7200 post.
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post Oct 19 2006, 02:25 PM

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Avenger
when Espionage send the item to you.
did he label some sort if fragile on the box
or
draw or stick a sticker of a glass? those fragile thinggy ?

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post Oct 19 2006, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(psYCHopath @ Oct 19 2006, 02:25 PM)
Avenger
when Espionage send the item to you.
did he label some sort if fragile on the box
or
draw or stick a sticker of a glass? those fragile thinggy ?

user posted image
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no fragile sticker wor.
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post Oct 19 2006, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(john_teng @ Oct 18 2006, 09:10 AM)
There is always a term and condition in any business transaction. some are explicitly spelled out, some with fine print attached, some have to ask. In this case Espionage has his term and condition and if he does agree to any settlement then it is good will else it is strictly business.
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I would be delighted if you could show me the "fine print" in DELL's warranty policy that stated the terms of warranty as said by you. And also, where did Espionage posted his "terms and conditions" about his personal warranty covering his items including postage delivery and delays.

Thanks. It will help me with my trading knowledge.
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post Oct 19 2006, 05:30 PM

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hey .... i don't get see the deal of this issue.
i've been trading here, and most of the sellers i meet, ENSURES their stuff reaches me safe and well, and on top of that, CALLS me to make sure my newly accquired stuff is in good working condition. Shreaker , kelvinsykoh, ksking are a few of such ppl with good ethics.

the thign here is, i dont' see why our dear seller (espionage) can't do the same.... instead he insists warranty has ended therefore no refund. just curious....

annwyays, abubin... i guess esp stated clearly to avenger in their msn chatts... i think he posted up in this topic about the personal warranty....
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QUOTE(miraged @ Oct 19 2006, 05:30 PM)
hey .... i don't get see the deal of this issue.
i've been trading here, and most of the sellers i meet, ENSURES their stuff reaches me safe and well, and on top of that, CALLS me to make sure my newly accquired stuff is in good working condition. Shreaker , kelvinsykoh, ksking are a few of such ppl with good ethics.

the thign here is, i dont' see why our dear seller (espionage) can't do the same.... instead he insists warranty has ended therefore no refund. just curious....

annwyays, abubin... i guess esp stated clearly to avenger in their msn chatts... i think he posted up in this topic about the personal warranty....
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I mean the T&C before trading starts. No point having T&C after there is problem. That is not acceptable. It's like you trade with me...it's subject to my T&C as when I see fit. That's is irresponsible.
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post Oct 20 2006, 01:44 AM

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QUOTE(john_teng @ Oct 18 2006, 09:10 AM)
goldfries, I am merely stating the fact that DELL's warranty started immediately when they started shipping the good. We have bought a lot of PC items from DELL and some items arrived in our hand were already a week after the warranty started.


see, that's the thing - nothing you've posted, even with purchases with DELL, is in any way helpful to solving this dispute.

firstly there's no dispute on the matter of when the warranty started, even Espionage stated it starts when item reaches buyer. so the DELL warranty starting-date rule has in no way contributed to this point.

anyway the comparison is far from being straightforward. smile.gif

now back to the topic at hand - the issue here is how should Espionage settle this matter with his buyer.

and till now, i've not seen any explanation on the ridiculous nature on the warranty that voids if item doesn't go back to seller within that 7 day period, which means that if you discovered the fault even 2 days before the period is over and on a weekend - you're screwed.

IMO the faulty packaging itself shows that full-refund should be given to the buyer for the processor. seller mistake, why should buyer be deprived of his $$$ for it?
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 20 2006, 01:44 AM)
see, that's the thing - nothing you've posted, even with purchases with DELL, is in any way helpful to solving this dispute.

firstly there's no dispute on the matter of when the warranty started, even Espionage stated it starts when item reaches buyer. so the DELL warranty starting-date rule has in no way contributed to this point.

anyway the comparison is far from being straightforward. smile.gif

now back to the topic at hand - the issue here is how should Espionage settle this matter with his buyer.

and till now, i've not seen any explanation on the ridiculous nature on the warranty that voids if item doesn't go back to seller within that 7 day period, which means that if you discovered the fault even 2 days before the period is over and on a weekend - you're screwed.

IMO the faulty packaging itself shows that full-refund should be given to the buyer for the processor. seller mistake, why should buyer be deprived of his $$$ for it?
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i demand that Espionage to be at least blacklisted for his sambil lewa attitude.
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QUOTE(avenger @ Oct 19 2006, 02:40 PM)
no fragile sticker wor.
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another of his mistakes done. seller should have at least draw or stick the fragile sticker on the item box, so that the posman would be more carefull when handling the "mobo+cpu+fan+ram"
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don't talk abt dell la. my roomate who bought dell desktop claimed a new 15 inch lcd on the last day leh. the complain was filed on friday and the item was delivered after weekend. by right the warrenty period should have been expired right? but still they gave him the LCD replacement because the problem was lodge within the warrenty period. If Dell has their own terms and condition printed then i suspose the seller were to post the conditions before he starts selling the item right? so i think its not suitable to place a company sales with individual sales here

I think the buyer should at least be given some compensation. both the money and item is now at the hands of the seller. not much but at least there should be some. have you guys tried to salvage some money from pos laju to claim the mishandling of parcel (if not mistaken poslaju can refund some money if delivered item is discovered spoilt due to mishandling but not much la). that should at least reduce the burden.

there seems to be no word on the seller. hope that both seller and buyer can achieve a win win condition here. cheers
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This thing have been going on for a month now, without solution sleep.gif
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post Oct 20 2006, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(suiteng @ Oct 20 2006, 04:57 PM)
This thing have been going on for a month now, without solution sleep.gif
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unfortunately seller doesn't seem all that keen to solving the matter.

as i said earlier

IMO the faulty packaging itself shows that full-refund should be given to the buyer for the processor. seller mistake, why should buyer be deprived of his $$$ for it?

QUOTE(avenger @ Oct 20 2006, 07:38 AM)
i demand that Espionage to be at least blacklisted for his sambil lewa attitude.
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unfortunately, his lack of response here makes it look even worse for himself. sad.gif
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 20 2006, 06:46 PM)
unfortunately, his lack of response here makes it look even worse for himself. sad.gif
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wait a minute, he should be blacklisted, right? oredi 1 week no response. things should be done by TE, right?
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post Oct 21 2006, 12:40 AM

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Avenger, I know you're kinda frustrated but try not to go into Espionage sales thread and create havoc there. You'll might get yourself into unneceasarry trouble. Just report to the mod will do.

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