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post Jun 23 2020, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(Current Events guy @ Jun 23 2020, 06:56 AM)
How did you secure the back plate to the fan shroud?
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the heatsink in only held by the mounting holes around the gpu.

the backplate is directly bolted on to the pcb with nuts and bolts, insulated with plastic washers

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post Jun 23 2020, 12:08 PM

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thumbup.gif thanks for the details. truly helps alot. im going for H210 given the size is about the same as LL but with more choices across the PSU area. i think i will stick with the stock cooler and use the money to go 3600.
As for the PSU, my choices are not as much cause i will most likely be getting my rig at Czone. andi dont think that superflower option is there (ref: http://www.compu-zone.com/index.php/price-...wnloads-in-pdf)

QUOTE(Current Events guy @ Jun 23 2020, 09:29 AM)
If it is for AAA gaming, go with the 3600. You will be good for at least 3 years.
The monitor is alright for 1080p 60Hz gaming so your CPU and GPU selection is good.

I recommend the Fury because that is what I'm using. It has RGB as well and is from Kingston. I have no experience in using T Force so that's your call. Go for 3600 MHz RAM if you can, or 3200 MHZ is good enough if you cant.

As for CPU cooler it's up to you because the R5 3600 is not hard to cool and already comes with a cooler out of the box. So when looking at a cooler, consider if you want to OC or upgrade to a i7/i9/R7/R9 later.
I personally would go for the Scythe Mugen 5 Rev B as it can support high end CPUs up to i9 or R9 if you upgrade later for a fraction of the AIO cost.
If you would like to spend on an AIO, know that the TU-150 supports 120mm AIO while the H210 supports 240mm AIO. 120mm AIO is good up to i5/R5 while 240mm is good for i7/R7. Take a look at your budget and see which one looks nice.
If you want a 240mm AIO, I can recommend the NZXT X52 Kraken (there's a X53 that came out last year, but I dont like the cable management on that).

EDIT:

TU-150 uses an SFX psu.
Your options are Silverstone SX-650G or Corsair SF600/SF700.
Corsair ones are not easy to find nor are they cheap.

H210 uses an ATX PSU.
You have a lot more options here, and ATX PSUs are cheaper than SFX.
I have the RM650 and recommend that or the superflower leadex II/III 650W.
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post Jun 23 2020, 02:49 PM

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all these recommendation for H1 but its only being sold as part of the full system build at the moment. console.gif
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post Jun 26 2020, 06:25 PM

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Hi all, for those who bought their cases (or pc parts) off taobao, do you buy directly or use an agent? If the latter, recommendations will be super helpful too, thanks!
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post Jun 27 2020, 11:27 AM

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K55 build finally itx board arrive after like 3 months. Zzzz let the game begin
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post Jun 27 2020, 01:44 PM

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Finally done after like so many hours lol.. Working with a small case sure is fun. biggrin.gif

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post Jun 27 2020, 10:35 PM

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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Jun 27 2020, 01:44 PM)
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I really like the feet.


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post Jun 27 2020, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(Current Events guy @ Jun 27 2020, 10:35 PM)
I really like the feet.
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haha cause kastam stole my feet need to find a speaker feet to replace it xD
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post Jun 27 2020, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Jun 27 2020, 10:42 PM)
haha cause kastam stole my feet need to find a speaker feet to replace it xD
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Oh I thought those came with the case.

Could you share a link for the feet?
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post Jun 28 2020, 12:04 AM

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QUOTE(Current Events guy @ Jun 27 2020, 11:11 PM)
Oh I thought those came with the case.

Could you share a link for the feet?
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just make sure check the size and whether u require drill the case smile.gif
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post Jun 28 2020, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Jun 27 2020, 01:44 PM)
Finally done after like so many hours lol.. Working with a small case sure is fun. biggrin.gif

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that looks so adorable lol
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post Jun 29 2020, 12:04 AM

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recently upgraded the cooling (and the case, too)

i5-9600k is too much for the C7 Cu lol laugh.gif

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post Jun 29 2020, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(rihuhs @ Jun 29 2020, 12:04 AM)
recently upgraded the cooling (and the case, too)

i5-9600k is too much for the C7 Cu lol laugh.gif

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Like the Apple inspired design biggrin.gif hows the thermal on this looks nice
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post Jun 29 2020, 06:33 PM

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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Jun 27 2020, 01:44 PM)
Finally done after like so many hours lol.. Working with a small case sure is fun. biggrin.gif

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How long gpu clearance
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post Jun 30 2020, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(gxthelord @ Jun 29 2020, 10:59 AM)
Like the Apple inspired design biggrin.gif hows the thermal on this looks nice
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with the 240mm AIO, I got the 9600k to be around 60 degrees under gaming load/few runs consecutive runs of Cinebench R20, and 1-hour run of Prime95 only pushes it up to about 70 degrees

compared with the old Cryorig C7 Cu that I used previously, gaming/cinebench is around 85 degrees, prime 95 shoots up to 90+ in less than 10mins, and after 15mins a few cores reached 100 degrees lol
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QUOTE(rihuhs @ Jun 30 2020, 10:13 AM)
with the 240mm AIO, I got the 9600k to be around 60 degrees under gaming load/few runs consecutive runs of Cinebench R20, and 1-hour run of Prime95 only pushes it up to about 70 degrees

compared with the old Cryorig C7 Cu that I used previously, gaming/cinebench is around 85 degrees, prime 95 shoots up to 90+ in less than 10mins, and after 15mins a few cores reached 100 degrees lol
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waaa even the Cyroid C7 CU also cannot tame the beast eh :X
Nice temp there! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Ameerzs @ Jun 29 2020, 06:33 PM)
How long gpu clearance
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max should be triple fan card as long 2 slots., need check their official site can search for SGPC K55 ITX
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post Jun 30 2020, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(MrSpeedy @ May 30 2020, 08:22 PM)
Can anyone recommend me itx case that fit with flex psu?
Recently my brother upgraded his pc and has leftover itx mobo.
Prefer without GPU slot cuz i'll be using intergrated graphics.

EDIT: I also heard the weird psu version which basically the atx power connector is connected into some sort of power regulator chip and then directly into wall plug via DC connector.

EDIT 2: It's called PICO psu. So can anyone recommend any one of them?

Thanks.
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Hi. I personally use PICO PSU using just a modem router 12V 2A adaptor tu supply (24 watt max). It really depends on your motherboard and processor requirement. I recommenct any 12V Pico psu in lazada or shopee but the power brick choice really hard to find above 80 watts if you are planning to use 65 watts or higher processors.

They really can survive 24/7 operation.
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post Jul 1 2020, 04:58 PM

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Hello! New recruit to the SFF MY scene (enlisted during the MCO).

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- Ryzen 5 3600
- Gigabyte Aorus B450i Gaming Wifi
- Crucial 1TB NVMe PCIe M.2
- Samsung 860 EVO 250GB SATA
- GALAX GeForce GTX 1660 Super EX White 6GB GDDR6
- 2 x G.SKILL Aegis 8GB DDR4 3200MHz CL16
- FSP DAGGER PRO 650W 80+ Gold SFX Full Modular PSU
- 2 x NOCTUA NF-F12
- NOCTUA NF-A12x15
- Castle 240EX AIO

For those familiar with this case, thermals will always be a challenge with glass side panels. CPU idle temps are around 45C and around 80 at full load. GPU sits at 40C when idle, and tops out at around 80C as well at 100% load.

Plan will be to do some undervolting this week to see if temps can be brought down further.

[Edited for brevity and forum etiquette].

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post Jul 2 2020, 07:46 AM

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QUOTE(pkchair @ Jul 1 2020, 04:58 PM)
Hello! New recruit to the SFF MY scene (enlisted during the MCO).

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-  Ryzen 5 3600
-  Gigabyte Aorus B450i Gaming Wifi
-  Crucial 1TB NVMe PCIe M.2
-  Samsung 860 EVO 250GB SATA
-  GALAX GeForce GTX 1660 Super EX White 6GB GDDR6
-  2 x G.SKILL Aegis 8GB DDR4 3200MHz CL16
-  FSP DAGGER PRO 650W 80+ Gold SFX Full Modular PSU
-  2 x NOCTUA NF-F12
-  NOCTUA NF-A12x15
-  Castle 240EX AIO

For those familiar with this case, thermals will always be a challenge with glass side panels. CPU idle temps are around 45C and around 80 at full load. GPU sits at 40C when idle, and tops out at around 80C as well at 100% load.

Plan will be to do some undervolting this week to see if temps can be brought down further.

[Edited for brevity and forum etiquette].
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I have used this case before and the thermals are very good (or at least, in my setup), but maybe that time I was using a locked Core i5-6500 CPU

My setup back then was:
Core i5-6500
Z270i ROG Strix
Zotac GTX1070 Mini
2x8GB HyperX Fury RGB 3200MHz
Silverstone SX650-G SFX PSU
Cooler Master ML240L AIO
Cooler Master MF120R fan at the bottom

temps was around 34-35 degrees idle, and gaming load (Shadow of Tomb Raider pushes CPU usage to 100%) maxed out at only 50 degrees

my room has no air conditioning. just a regular ceiling fan

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