a question, most of the small form factor nowadays are able to house 2070/2080?

Mini version, full size also can, depends on the case's support.

i see, what's an alright casing nowadays for mini itx? i used to have the cm 130, are there anything a tad smaller than that?

I can't suggest much but I did built an ITX before around year 2014 with a Bitfenix Prodigy. Depends on where you want to put it on top or below desk, then you like square/tall slim/rectangular long but short/ etc.. if you want to start from scratch suggest NZXT H1 (includes their own AIO, PSU, accomodates full size GPU) that's just arrived, or you can watch this guy on YouTube for his opinions.

All depends on your usage and space and your own preference, of course there are poor design SFF cases that is why you need to do your own research for those reviews online that have actual experience using those cases.

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AMD 4000 series APU about to change the SFF scene in a big way. Exciting time for a new build.

depends on what direction you're heading to. for ultra compact ones can fit in RTX 2070 mini single fan from Gigabyte

others can house the typical dual-fan design and triple fan ones.

so better spec out your system first, identify how your build gonna be then only choose the case

ooo the h1 looks really good. ill check it out


i cant spec out right now, just thinking at the moment, cause ill be moving out of country to work around september, so just wanted to just check around for now

you have to always spec out first for SFF builds because you have to make sure everything fits cuz of the size constraint and wont choke themselves out in heat. unlike normal builds, you decide on the casing first. And component dimensions and space clearance became the next most important thing which will be different between each models.. so you need to check for availability too. All of these combined made SFF builds not cheap.

i was looking at the h1 but that looks so big for some reason lol

compared to many others, yeah the h1 is huge.

i just checked the price. alrightt maybe some other choices

If you're mobile, look into the K39

Get the casing, GPU riser and PSU via taobao

Everything else you can get locally

are there sources for the parts?

Refer to this post and search for the parts on taobao to see if it fits your budget

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...post&p=95530925

gotcha, thanks!

Hi Everyone, glad i could find this thread and have learn much from this. i am lookin to buiild an ITX rig to replace my current laptop. my budget is ~3.7K (excluding PSU and casing). My 2 main objective is to have a good looking exterior mid range gaming machine.

Having gone through suggestions and reviews, this is the built i am looking for which should be around 3.5-3.7k. Monitor, mouse and keyboard not required. Happy to get your recommendation as well

RYZEN 3 3300X
GIGABYTE B450 I AORUS PRO WIFI
RADEON 5600XT
T FORCE RGB RAM 16 GB
SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS 500GB

Now, i am going through a different path cause i am letting my casing determine my built, not the other way round because the look of the rig is also important to me. So, i will like one with transparent side panel and also for RGB purposes. these are the ones that i think is suitable for me

TT Core X1
Lian Li TU150
NZT H210i
NZXT H1

Will like to hear your suggestion on the above.

p/s: I am not a techy so i wont be able to order individual parts here and there to build the rig. i need to rely on a retail / seller to set this up.

Here’s a junkyard style mod for fitting a asus 1080strix cooler onto a zotac 2080 fe style into a itx casing with almost zero space left :lol:

For RM3700K without PSU and casing, I'd do the following,

Ryzen 5 3600 RM800
GIGABYTE B450 I AORUS PRO WIFI RM600
Sapphire Pulse RX 5600 XT RM1400
Hyper X fury 16 GB 3200 MHz RM500
ADATA SX8200 500 GB RM400

I assume you are interested in playing future AAA games. If you are just interested in playing e-Sport titles like Dota or CS, then stick with the 3300X. I also assume you are playing at 1080p and 60 Hz, since you did not mention the monitor you were using. Feel free to share your monitor specs so we can adjust the parts to maximize your monitor's usage.

Sapphire Pulse has a good cooler on the 5600 XT, I have the 5700 XT variant.
I recommend the Hyper X RAM and ADATA SSD over the T Force RAM or Samsung SSD because I'd recommend spending money towards parts that improve gaming performance (CPU and GPU) over RAM and SSD. The extra money saved here go towards the CPU. If you do decide to go with the 3300X then the extra money you have go towards the service cost of putting this together. The prices above are from Lazada, so expect higher prices if you have the shop put this together for you. I do recommend you have them put it together, solely for the after sales support in case something breaks down.

It's typical for ITX builds to prioritize casing before anything else, and it's a personal choice so that I'll leave it up to you. The larger cases like the TU150 or the H210 can support a bigger cooler in case you want to upgrade CPU or overclock somewhere down the line. Both support a maximum of 165mm cooler height, so you can use the Scythe Mugen 5 Rev B (RM200). The H1 is much smaller, but the I/O port is at the bottom and it runs hotter than either TU150/H210, but dont worry too much about that since you're just using a 3300X/3600.

It's not stupid if it works!

How did you secure the back plate to the fan shroud?

Thanks. that truly helps and your suggestions makes more sense. yeap, i will like to be more future proof with AAA games (not limited to only e sport titles). i am using this monitor at the moment, definitely not a gaming one cause it was bought with other intention in mind couple of years back (https://www.viewsonic.com/sg/asset-files/files/_lcd/au-va2419-sh.pdf). there could always be possibility to upgrade in future.

For the RAM, i chose T Force purely for the RGB purposes and it will cost around 349 / 429 (Performance RAM). So i guess that price is still ok since it is below RM500

For casing, it is down to either one of these: Lian Li TU150 or H210. that is firm. What im unsure is the PSU. im looking at either FSP Hydro GD 650w or Corsair RM650w. if FSP is ok, that will be good since there is a difference of RM100.

For cooling, is AIO a good choice over the Scythe Mugen 5? i will treat this as an add on provided i have extra budget.

If it is for AAA gaming, go with the 3600. You will be good for at least 3 years.
The monitor is alright for 1080p 60Hz gaming so your CPU and GPU selection is good.

I recommend the Fury because that is what I'm using. It has RGB as well and is from Kingston. I have no experience in using T Force so that's your call. Go for 3600 MHz RAM if you can, or 3200 MHZ is good enough if you cant.

As for CPU cooler it's up to you because the R5 3600 is not hard to cool and already comes with a cooler out of the box. So when looking at a cooler, consider if you want to OC or upgrade to a i7/i9/R7/R9 later.
I personally would go for the Scythe Mugen 5 Rev B as it can support high end CPUs up to i9 or R9 if you upgrade later for a fraction of the AIO cost.
If you would like to spend on an AIO, know that the TU-150 supports 120mm AIO while the H210 supports 240mm AIO. 120mm AIO is good up to i5/R5 while 240mm is good for i7/R7. Take a look at your budget and see which one looks nice.
If you want a 240mm AIO, I can recommend the NZXT X52 Kraken (there's a X53 that came out last year, but I dont like the cable management on that).

EDIT:

TU-150 uses an SFX psu.
Your options are Silverstone SX-650G or Corsair SF600/SF700.
Corsair ones are not easy to find nor are they cheap.

H210 uses an ATX PSU.
You have a lot more options here, and ATX PSUs are cheaper than SFX.
I have the RM650 and recommend that or the superflower leadex II/III 650W.

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