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post Nov 12 2020, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Nov 12 2020, 12:03 AM)
as long as got gap, the cat will able squeeze out. i bought a cage and leave the door open but facing the wall, so it's blocked. the cat still able squeeze out with few cm of gap.

don't bet on balcony please. unless got net and with your supervision, it's super dangerous. cat sometimes are dumb and do silly things
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cats r smart. mine can even open the door, or squeezed thru the cage door if left one lock open - need to hv double lock and one can even know how to unlock the cage door by pushing the lock handle slowly 🤪

totally agreed on balcony, even with net, despites their 9 lives moniker, i lost 3 cats 😢😢😢😢😢😢 dont know how they end up falling down. so sad and devastated

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post Nov 12 2020, 12:46 PM

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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Nov 7 2020, 04:58 PM)
keep all the cats la. you might change your mind after seeing this video


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I have 2 kids at home and 2 people with sinus problem. 1 cat still can manage but I think 4 is difficult.
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post Nov 12 2020, 04:34 PM

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QUOTE(jaswwp @ Nov 12 2020, 12:46 PM)
I have 2 kids at home and 2 people with sinus problem. 1 cat still can manage but I think 4 is difficult.
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too bad. then hope you can find ppl do adopt all 3 of them. btw on unrelated note. buying air purifier will help

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post Nov 12 2020, 04:43 PM

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is it possible to train a feral cat to stay only indoor?

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basilisk
post Nov 12 2020, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(holyghost @ Nov 12 2020, 04:43 PM)
is it possible to train a feral cat to stay only indoor?
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jz lock it indoor..
no nid train... lol...
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post Nov 12 2020, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Nov 12 2020, 04:47 PM)
jz lock it indoor..
no nid train...  lol...
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lol ... we cant always lock ourselves in tight. usually windows and doors will be open when there's people home.
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post Nov 12 2020, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(holyghost @ Nov 12 2020, 04:52 PM)
lol ... we cant always lock ourselves in tight. usually windows and doors will be open when there's people home.
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liddat abit susah lo,
if got window, door grille, can tie the net....
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post Nov 12 2020, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(holyghost @ Nov 12 2020, 04:43 PM)
is it possible to train a feral cat to stay only indoor?
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dunno how to train. mine are by nature. 1 is stray outside for many months before i bring her home, once slide the ground floor window, it will jump out. another 1 is stray for 1-2 months when kitten, dun dare go out. but once i bring her out, now got chance see opening, also straight jump out.

another is abit weird. maybe trauma when kitty time. i bring him out, he very scared, hold me very tight. i lepas him, he straight run back inside house biggrin.gif
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post Nov 13 2020, 02:09 AM

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QUOTE(jaswwp @ Nov 12 2020, 12:46 PM)
I have 2 kids at home and 2 people with sinus problem. 1 cat still can manage but I think 4 is difficult.
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If you can't, then you can't. But it is good move to find them new owner. Don't dump them please.

I have sinus problem as well but my allergy not because of cats. I take medicine to manage them.
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post Nov 16 2020, 10:07 AM

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Cat reaches adulthood at 12 months right?

For common house cat breed, typically need to spend how much a year for these?

1. Dry food
2. Wet food
3. Litter
4. Deworming
5. Vaccination
6. Grooming (if I let pet shop handle it)
7. Neutering (one off cost how much?)

Any other expenses I miss out? Advice appreciated. Thanks!

Also, I read that toilet-training is actually not encouraged for cats? Something something about stretching their agility too much and our sewerage and treatment is not made for cat feces, which will disrupt the treatment process and microbes ecology.

This post has been edited by J1g54w: Nov 16 2020, 10:10 AM
petlover01
post Nov 16 2020, 03:12 PM

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Hi guys. Need some advice.

On September, I picked up a 1-2 month old kitten from outside my condo. Seems to have lost/separated from the mother. So my husband and I adopted it, dewormed, vaccinated and waiting for spay. She is healthy now.

So, the problem is my kitten seem a bit aggressive with us, she doesn't like to be touched and will bite/scratch when we try to pet her. We can only pet her when she is sleeping. We provide alot of toys for her and also a cat tree, we doesn't cage her, she is free to roam around the house. We thought she might be lonely and maybe things will improve when she have a companion.

So.... I brought her to a pet hotel (my brother in law manages the outlet) and tried to let her interact with other cats, she hisses and want to fight them. Is this normal? I thought of adopting another cat/kitten as a companion but looking at how she wants to fight other cat, I am not so sure anymore.


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post Nov 16 2020, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(petlover01 @ Nov 16 2020, 03:12 PM)
Hi guys. Need some advice.

On September, I picked up a 1-2 month old kitten from outside my condo. Seems to have lost/separated from the mother. So my husband and I adopted it, dewormed, vaccinated and waiting for spay. She is healthy now.

So, the problem is my kitten seem a bit aggressive with us, she doesn't like to be touched and will bite/scratch when we try to pet her. We can only pet her when she is sleeping. We provide alot of toys for her and also a cat tree, we doesn't cage her, she is free to roam around the house. We thought she might be lonely and maybe things will improve when she have a companion.

So.... I brought her to a pet hotel (my brother in law manages the outlet) and tried to let her interact with other cats, she hisses and want to fight them. Is this normal? I thought of adopting another cat/kitten as a companion but looking at how she wants to fight other cat, I am not so sure anymore.
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Some cats are very sensitive. Will only allow you to touch the head and under the chin. With lots of training, can improve the behaviour. Since it is still kitten, must start to train right away, and don't allow her to dominate you.

Hiss at other cats is very common. Once they meet the stranger cat everyday, eventually will accept the fler. But no gurantee will become good friends, but can live together. Maybe one cat will bully the other by biting etc, so you have to observe them well.

This post has been edited by basilisk: Nov 16 2020, 04:35 PM
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post Nov 16 2020, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(petlover01 @ Nov 16 2020, 03:12 PM)
Hi guys. Need some advice.

On September, I picked up a 1-2 month old kitten from outside my condo. Seems to have lost/separated from the mother. So my husband and I adopted it, dewormed, vaccinated and waiting for spay. She is healthy now.

So, the problem is my kitten seem a bit aggressive with us, she doesn't like to be touched and will bite/scratch when we try to pet her. We can only pet her when she is sleeping. We provide alot of toys for her and also a cat tree, we doesn't cage her, she is free to roam around the house. We thought she might be lonely and maybe things will improve when she have a companion.

So.... I brought her to a pet hotel (my brother in law manages the outlet) and tried to let her interact with other cats, she hisses and want to fight them. Is this normal? I thought of adopting another cat/kitten as a companion but looking at how she wants to fight other cat, I am not so sure anymore.
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Female kitty aggresive is rare. My experience suka fight are male only. All my female cats can interact with stranger female. They hiss but never fight. Male will fight though.

Hiss other stranger cats are normal. The % hiss are more than no hiss.

You can try buy those snack liquid stick feed her. Tempt her to come to you, like standing on your lap while eating. You need keep touch her while kitty. If big, the bite and scratch will be more painful.



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QUOTE(J1g54w @ Nov 16 2020, 10:07 AM)
Cat reaches adulthood at 12 months right?

For common house cat breed, typically need to spend how much a year for these?

1. Dry food
2. Wet food
3. Litter
4. Deworming
5. Vaccination
6. Grooming (if I let pet shop handle it)
7. Neutering (one off cost how much?)

Any other expenses I miss out? Advice appreciated. Thanks!

Also, I read that toilet-training is actually not encouraged for cats? Something something about stretching their agility too much and our sewerage and treatment is not made for cat feces, which will disrupt the treatment process and microbes ecology.
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You can easily get these info by searching online, shopee, call your nearest vet.
All these cost varies. From really cheap tesco food to very expensive imported food, home cooked food, raw food etc.
Is like you wana eat maggi mee or dine @ 5star hotel every day? smile.gif

Litter, somany types of litter, all diff price. Eventually you will settle for the type that you and your cat likes. Win win for both.

Vet fees, varies with clinics, there are gov clinics, tht offers vac.

Kampong cat short hair, dont need grooming. You can brush the coat if you like.

Neutering, from below rm100 to above 100.

What do you mean by toilet training??

I have read about the cat poo should not be flushed into toilet, but did not study further. Need to check...

This post has been edited by basilisk: Nov 16 2020, 10:13 PM
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post Nov 18 2020, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(petlover01 @ Nov 16 2020, 03:12 PM)
Hi guys. Need some advice.

On September, I picked up a 1-2 month old kitten from outside my condo. Seems to have lost/separated from the mother. So my husband and I adopted it, dewormed, vaccinated and waiting for spay. She is healthy now.

So, the problem is my kitten seem a bit aggressive with us, she doesn't like to be touched and will bite/scratch when we try to pet her. We can only pet her when she is sleeping. We provide alot of toys for her and also a cat tree, we doesn't cage her, she is free to roam around the house. We thought she might be lonely and maybe things will improve when she have a companion.

So.... I brought her to a pet hotel (my brother in law manages the outlet) and tried to let her interact with other cats, she hisses and want to fight them. Is this normal? I thought of adopting another cat/kitten as a companion but looking at how she wants to fight other cat, I am not so sure anymore.
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Rough playing is normal for lone kitten. Not all kittens like that though. I think it is because she separated from her mother too early, she don't know how to socialize. Kittens play rough with their siblings. Don't worry, she will calm down when she get older.

Probably she is not looking for playmates. If she looking for playmates, she wouldn't hiss. Some kitten doing fine alone. Probably put on hold adopting another kitten for now. Sometime it take a while before they get along.

I have a cat that play very aggressively when she was a little kitten many years ago. I wore bandage on both of my arms & let her bite and scratch all she want. Not good idea actually but she did calm down when she got older. Also at the time I have another kitten, male, that I put in separate room. When she finally saw him, I can tell that she want to play with him because she was purring really loud. She is very smart, giving him space before he warm up to her.
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sad sad sad.

there's a stray mummy cat with her 2 kitten which i have been keeping in a room since the mummy delivered. now already 4 months, given first vaccine today and thought they can join my other home cats.

as a precaution before mingling, i have FIV and FIP test for the mummy. FIV aka aids, FIP aka feline cobis. tested positive. sigh. now they for sure cannot mingle with my other cats. after so many months in room, i thought can finally grant them freedom. but now plan on hold again zzzz.

wondering if i should release them back outside, let them enjoy the outside world with their remaining lifespan or not. problem is one of the kitten is 80% blind and will be hard for her outside.

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post Nov 26 2020, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Nov 26 2020, 09:06 PM)
sad sad sad.

there's a stray mummy cat with her 2 kitten which i have been keeping in a room since the mummy delivered. now already 4 months, given first vaccine today and thought they can join my other home cats.

as a precaution before mingling, i have FIV and FIP test for the mummy. FIV aka aids, FIP aka feline cobis. tested positive. sigh. now they for sure cannot mingle with my other cats. after so many months in room, i thought can finally grant them freedom. but now plan on hold again zzzz.

wondering if i should release them back outside, let them enjoy the outside world with their remaining lifespan or not. problem is one of the kitten is 80% blind and will be hard for her outside.
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According to this, there is no accurate test for FIP.

https://pets.webmd.com/cats/cat-fip-feline-...peritonitis#2-4

The common combo test here is for FIV FELV.


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Fiv +ve cats doesnt need to be isolated frm other cats as long as they dont fight.

Ive taken care of a male fiv cat (cos always fight outside)
he lived til 13+ years. Test done when he's 5-6 yo.

If young kitten tested +ve for felv, then high chance they won't make it pass one year old. Just observed one case recently.

This post has been edited by basilisk: Nov 26 2020, 09:44 PM
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post Nov 26 2020, 11:28 PM

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i can't risk my other cats infected as they are very dear to me. but keeping the mummy and kitten in room also not a long term solution. releasing them out to live outside house also susah since one of the kitten is blind. generally all 3 are happy, looks healthy since they live as family together. really surprised with the +ve result.
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post Nov 27 2020, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Nov 16 2020, 10:12 PM)
You can easily get these info by searching online, shopee, call your nearest vet.
All these cost varies. From really cheap tesco food to very expensive imported food, home cooked food, raw food etc.
Is like you wana eat maggi mee or dine @ 5star hotel every day? smile.gif

Litter, somany types of litter, all diff price. Eventually you will settle for the type that you and your cat likes. Win win for both.

Vet fees, varies with clinics, there are gov clinics, tht offers vac.

Kampong cat short hair, dont need grooming. You can brush the coat if you like.

Neutering, from below rm100 to above 100.

What do you mean by toilet training??

I have read about the cat poo should not be flushed into toilet, but did not study further. Need to check...
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Is it true cat poo cannot be flushed down our toilet? First time im hearing this, i do it all the time since im using flushable tofu litter huhuu
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post Nov 27 2020, 02:02 AM

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QUOTE(neome @ Nov 27 2020, 12:01 AM)
Is it true cat poo cannot be flushed down our toilet? First time im hearing this, i do it all the time since im using flushable tofu litter huhuu
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I have searched,.. again..

but, coudn't find any warning from any gov agencies asking ppl not to flush cat poo (just cat poo without litter).

Instead, all those are repeated by bloggers, articles from websites etc.

One major concern is toxoplasmosis.

Thing is, if you read about this toxoplasmosis is detail,
not all cats have toxo. Infected cats don't shed this in their poo the entire life.

Two.
cat poo is damn hard like batu, it may clog your pipes.

And I have found this news, saying in australia,
this city council ask ppl to flush cat n dog poo instead of throwing in the garbage BCOS their sewage plant can handle/ kill the pathogens.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-80...utting-bin.html

Mebe we can write to Indah water and c what those smart ppl reply.

Tofu litter breaks up in water into suspension - like susu,
the solid in human poo are much bigger+ coarser ....

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