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basilisk
post Apr 28 2019, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(kizwan @ Apr 28 2019, 11:16 AM)

I bought mine RM15 per bag.
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i believe u r not in klang valley..?

catspro klang valley price still they dontwana sell tat cheap yet..
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post Apr 28 2019, 06:21 PM

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Hi, want to ask, is there any shelters/vet clinics that do tnr with a discount near bangi/kajang/putrajaya?

There are tons of cats near my workplace and the moms keep popping babies after babies
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post Apr 28 2019, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(miss comet @ Apr 28 2019, 06:21 PM)
Hi, want to ask, is there any shelters/vet clinics that do tnr with a discount near bangi/kajang/putrajaya?

There are tons of cats near my workplace and the moms keep popping babies after babies
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shelters dont offer spaying/neutering, the take to vet to get it done.

if you intend to bring those strays to klinik, u hv to ask all those klinik tht you can find in the above area, tell them it is stray n compare the price. get the ear snip to mark it as spayed/neutered.

you can post a question in various animal rescue fb groups, to get those kliniks, like miar/ mddb/ sahabat kucing jalanan/ malaysian chinese loves cats etc etc..

here is one klinik to start with..
u call them to check the price...

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post Apr 29 2019, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Apr 28 2019, 01:35 PM)
i believe u r not in klang valley..?

catspro klang valley price still they dontwana sell tat cheap yet..
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Yes I'm not in Klang Valley. Too bad though price there inflated.
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post Apr 29 2019, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(kizwan @ Apr 29 2019, 12:49 PM)
Yes I'm not in Klang Valley. Too bad though price there inflated.
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here, if can find any brand of tofu litter for rm20+ oredi very good... biggrin.gif
normally shop here sell rm25 above... per bag...
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post Apr 29 2019, 04:45 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Apr 28 2019, 09:18 PM)
shelters dont offer spaying/neutering, the take to vet to get it done.

if you intend to bring those strays to klinik, u hv to ask all those klinik tht you can find in the above area, tell them it is stray n compare the price. get the ear snip to mark it as spayed/neutered.

you can post a question in various animal rescue fb groups, to get those kliniks, like miar/ mddb/ sahabat kucing jalanan/ malaysian chinese loves cats etc etc..

here is one klinik to start with..
u call them to check the price...

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Thanks for your reply. Will try to call them
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post Apr 30 2019, 08:16 PM

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anyone tried Orijen? Is it a good dry food for cats?
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post Apr 30 2019, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(Shinka @ Apr 30 2019, 08:16 PM)
anyone tried Orijen? Is it a good dry food for cats?
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good ornot.. actually depends on ur cat..

if ur cat refuse to eat it.. lol.. biggrin.gif

origen - claimed to be one of the best pet kibble, made in canada by champions pet food.
so popular tht nestle is offering millions(over 2billion usd) to buy it.
so far they claim they are not selling it.

currently my hse cats r testing acana..

orijen/acana claim - made in house frm their own facility, so they can quality control everything.

many other food is just a brand name. the food is made by a contract factory.

i think tis is the cheapest price u can get in kl... during sale period.

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orijen contains alot of different ingredient.. some cat cant tolerate.. shit will be not solid..

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post Apr 30 2019, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(basilisk @ Apr 30 2019, 08:58 PM)
good ornot.. actually depends on ur cat..

if ur cat refuse to eat it.. lol..  biggrin.gif

origen - claimed to be one of the best pet kibble, made in canada by champions pet food.
so popular tht nestle is offering millions to buy it.
so far they claim they are not selling it.

currently my hse cats r testing acana..

orijen/acana claim - made in house frm their own facility, so they can quality control everything.

many other food is just a brand name. the food is made by a contract factory.
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Is acana better than royal canin? I know rc has abit of grain in their products but their level of protein is lower than either orijen or acana. If I feed my cats orijen (high protein kibble), is it likely that they get UTI or kidney disease? (too much protein)
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post Apr 30 2019, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(Shinka @ Apr 30 2019, 09:51 PM)
Is acana better than royal canin? I know rc has abit of grain in their products but their level of protein is lower than either orijen or acana. If I feed my cats orijen (high protein kibble), is it likely that they get UTI or kidney disease? (too much protein)
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if comparing ingredient. rc is actually using cheaper stuffs but rc price is very high..

one claim to prevent uti is to feed cat with all animal protein, this will make the urine more acidic...

two claim, uti is bcos cat dont drink enuff water. thts y some only feed wet/can food to cats.

u can trick the cat drink more water by giving it homemade broth.. like sup tulang frm chicken / fish etc.

make sure dont add any salt or other stuff.

jz the smell alone will make them drink it.. hopefully..

for me i soak the kibble in alot of water, they dont care they eat.

and exercise them alot., they also will drink more water.
compared to indoor cats tht do nothing whole day sitting in ac...

cannot feed hight protein, only if the kidney is diseased.. if healthy high protein wont cause kidney problem.. u can google..

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post Apr 30 2019, 11:44 PM

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You don't want urine to be more acidic. It can increase the possibility of calcium oxalate crystals or stone formation in your pet urinary tract. Ideally you want diluted, less concentrated urine. This is where the drink enough water come from. By drinking enough water, it dilute waste in your pet urine & this can make crystals/stone hard to form. Diluted urine not only make getting rid waste much better but also any bacteria like E. Coli that can cause UTI.

If any dry food claimed FLUTD prevention, take it with grain of salt. If I remember correctly from an article, they add sodium to get pet drink more water. However sodium is an ingredient in salt which we try to avoid in pet food. So actually they don't prevent anything.
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post May 1 2019, 12:49 AM

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for those tht read...

https://news.vet.tufts.edu/2016/12/feeding-...cat-with-flutd/
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post May 1 2019, 02:03 AM

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Be careful about feeding your cats fish on a regular basis. Fish has mercury, and a lot of it is not healthy for your cats.
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post May 1 2019, 02:05 AM

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I have two outdoor cats that got FLUTD but both recovered with change in diet. Their diets are kibbles & small animal. Well I assumed they do hunt. They both gone now unrelated to flutd.

So far no cats in my care that their diet 100% canned food, get flutd.

So far a couple of cats in my care that their diet is moistened food (kibbles + canned food mixed), got FLUTD but all recovered with medicine. Looks like it is only crystals because they all are not completely blocked.

So far more than a couple of cats in my care that their diet is kibbles, got FLUTD & died. All of them completely blocked. My vet did perform "emergency discharge" & prescribe medicine but all not survived.
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QUOTE(kizwan @ May 1 2019, 02:05 AM)
I have two outdoor cats that got FLUTD but both recovered with change in diet. Their diets are kibbles & small animal. Well I assumed they do hunt. They both gone now unrelated to flutd.

So far no cats in my care that their diet 100% canned food, get flutd.

So far a couple of cats in my care that their diet is moistened food (kibbles + canned food mixed), got FLUTD but all recovered with medicine. Looks like it is only crystals because they all are not completely blocked.

So far more than a couple of cats in my care that their diet is kibbles, got FLUTD & died. All of them completely blocked. My vet did perform "emergency discharge" & prescribe medicine but all not survived.
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just wondering, those cats that got FLUTD on kibbles, what brand were you using? Certain brands such as friskies contain high levels of sodium and colouring I think.


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post May 1 2019, 01:12 PM

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QUOTE(Shinka @ May 1 2019, 11:46 AM)
just wondering, those cats that got FLUTD on kibbles, what brand were you using? Certain brands such as friskies contain high levels of sodium and colouring I think.
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It doesn't matter what brands. As long as your cat main diet is dry food + less drinking water, your cat have a risk to get FLUTD. Even some people who feed their cats with Greens cat food also have FLUTD problem with their cats. I use same brand for all of my cats but only a few cats have FLUTD. I can't afford premium brands because I need to buy in 10kg. Originally I feed my cats Kiska, no problem there. Then I changed to Visscay, the no color at first if I remember correctly but then the coloured ones (for some reason). My cats grew old by this time 2++ years & this is when one of my cats got FLUTD. After a couple of cases of FLUTD I started portioned their food, no more free feeding. Then changed to Prodiet because I noticed they eat more than they should with visscay. But after Prodiet stop selling 8+1 kg, I go back to Kiska & now back to Visscay (no colour/neutral colour). The only premium cat food I have ever feed my cats is Royal Canin for Persian cats because it doesn't have corn or nonsense in it.

Saying your cats going to get FLUTD if feed with certain brands is not correct. Also saying feeding with dry food your cat will get FLUTD also not correct. The difference between cats with dry food vs wet food is the latter have very low risk to get FLUTD because FLUTD can be caused by many things. Universal FLUTD prevention is water. I have more than one water bowl for my cats, different sizes & shaped too. There are two types of water I use; Reverse Osmosis water & filtered tap water. I also leave my tap water flow slowly because some of my cats like to drink from it.

For water bowls, some I use lead-free ceramic bowls while the rest are plastic. For plastic, DEHP/plasticizer leaching into water should not be a problem because we change water daily. Cancer take times/years to develop, so who knows. Avoid metal type bowl unless they are made of brass because brass doesn't rust.

If your cats always like to drink a lot of water, you're very lucky. In my experience, some of my cats like to drink a lot of water but not all of them remain like that when they grow old (2++ years).

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post May 1 2019, 01:15 PM

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QUOTE(Shinka @ May 1 2019, 11:46 AM)
just wondering, those cats that got FLUTD on kibbles, what brand were you using? Certain brands such as friskies contain high levels of sodium and colouring I think.
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sodium + colouring is not the main cause of flutd..

if you say high level.. how high??
there needs to be a figure to compare.

some sodium makes it tastier but they wont be so stupid to dump alot of salt into cat food, there is no extra benefit n it wont save them $$$


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Hi all, anyone know of vets in the klang Valley area that does charity / gives affordable rates to help found stray cats that require surgery?

Found this female cat outside my residential area. She has a limp tail and an infection of the anus.

Started a thread but asking here as well.

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post May 8 2019, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(zero88 @ May 8 2019, 08:52 AM)
Hi all,
anyone know of vets in the klang Valley area that does charity / gives affordable rates to help found stray cats that require surgery?

Found this female cat outside my residential  area. She has a limp tail and an infection of the anus.

Started a thread but asking here as well.

i pm u info
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Hey guys how do you guys clean cat spray markings? I read something about enzyme cleaner do you guys have any specific brands that you guys go to? price and place to get it?

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