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Jcsy
post Jan 13 2015, 09:00 PM

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my post was in response to someone who was asking about 6950

yes im using R9 280x

im testing Sniper Elite3, with Mantle but dont see the difference... Dragon Age?
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post Jan 13 2015, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(S4PH @ Jan 6 2015, 06:18 PM)
im waiting for the 20nm  thumbup.gif
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no 20nm gpu for 2015. Probably ever. They may skip to different node.
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post Jan 13 2015, 09:19 PM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Jan 6 2015, 01:02 PM)
Well, let's kickstart this thread with this news...

http://wccftech.com/amd-fiji-xt-r9-390x-zauba/

Another leak of the 390X?  brows.gif
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New leaked suggested the FIJI will be 300W TDP. If its true, it's so obvious it will be 28nm. The TDP is just shocking.gif
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post Jan 13 2015, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Jan 13 2015, 09:19 PM)
New leaked suggested the FIJI will be 300W TDP.  If its true, it's so obvious it will be 28nm.  The TDP is just  shocking.gif
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Update: found it, and it doesn't look like good news for me... sweat.gif

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post Jan 13 2015, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Jan 13 2015, 09:09 PM)
no 20nm gpu for 2015. Probably ever.  They may skip to different node.
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Maybe they'll wait for the yield to get better. I don't think they'll skip to 16nm like Nvidia did.

QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Jan 13 2015, 09:19 PM)
New leaked suggested the FIJI will be 300W TDP.  If its true, it's so obvious it will be 28nm.  The TDP is just  shocking.gif
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Not surprising since I posted in previous thread that AMD taped out 2 GPU chips mid last year. One is 260+mm² and another one is a behemoth >500mm² chip. Tonga is the former and 250w Hawaii is 430mm².
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post Jan 13 2015, 10:21 PM

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hmm was hoping for 20NM with HBM memory eh.. i guess is too much to ask.. sad.gif AMD R9 390x...

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i dun want to believe this rumor... lolx but i can't accept only good rumor, must accept both.

http://wccftech.com/amd-taped-radeon-r9-38...5d-hbm-gpu-soc/

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post Jan 14 2015, 01:45 AM

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Sniper Elite 3

looks like with Mantle , got a slight improvement like all the websites reported.. about 11%
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with Mantle

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with Directx11

VSYNC ON

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Jan 13 2015, 09:19 PM)
New leaked suggested the FIJI will be 300W TDP.  If its true, it's so obvious it will be 28nm.  The TDP is just  shocking.gif
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Well,i guess 28nm..But the TDP.. shocking.gif shocking.gif
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post Jan 14 2015, 07:28 PM

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300W ? pff nothing i can put 3 of that in my rig... too bad not enough space for Tri-crossfire...

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Jan 13 2015, 09:19 PM)
New leaked suggested the FIJI will be 300W TDP.  If its true, it's so obvious it will be 28nm.  The TDP is just  shocking.gif
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thats how real man should run their card!! brows.gif i want lambo not prius.. bigger number more powarrrrr!! rclxm9.gif
btw its only 10w greater than 290x.. easy pizzy mizzy
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post Jan 15 2015, 10:36 AM

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300w is nothing. The most important thing is they are able to cool it down.

I Oced my 290 and it can pull over 300w also no problem running all day also.
Even OCed GTX 980 can pull alot of watts too. In gaming GTX 980 uses less power, but in CUDA apps even stock third party cards can be near 300w too

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In gaming the GTX 980 only uses around 180w.

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In CUDA or OPENCL, the power consumption of the third party card is 280w! Reference GTX 980 has lower wattage limit and it ran at 180 watt. Still both higher than the 165w TDP claimed by Nvidia.

Source http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia...ll,3941-12.html

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This is reference GTX 980 which has lower wattage limit. Under Nvidia's own 25% OC pushing the core to 1377Mhz, mem to 1466Mhz, max boost to 1515Mhz under the same voltage. The GTX 980 uses slightly more power than reference R9 290X. Now 25% more for 165w of the GTX 980 should be 206w, but why does a 206w card now uses more power than R9 290X which is claimed to be 250w - 300w TDP card? The card here is for the reference card, third party GTX 980 will be chugging power just like r9 290 series once you try to overclock them.
Nvidia's TDP figures is questionable while AMD's TDP figures is exaggerated.
Source http://www.anandtech.com/show/8526/nvidia-...x-980-review/22

For those people who think they can run GTX 980 and GTX 970 with small PSU, they better be careful lol, especially if they get curious and try to overclock the card. They will face problems too if they try to run CUDA apps with small PSU.

The bottom line is, 300w is nothing.

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post Jan 15 2015, 11:29 AM

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am i in Nvidia threads ? lolx... feel a bit green.. tongue.gif
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post Jan 15 2015, 09:23 PM

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wondering on AnandTech site Gpu2014 benchmark.. WHAT model R9 290/290X they using ?
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http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU14/852
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jan 15 2015, 11:29 AM)
am i in Nvidia threads ? lolx...  feel a bit green.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jan 15 2015, 09:23 PM)
wondering on AnandTech site Gpu2014 benchmark.. WHAT model R9 290/290X they using  ?
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http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU14/852
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jan 15 2015, 10:16 PM)
Usually reference unless stated.
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hmm.gif watercool ? cause on MetroLL 1080p Very High R9 290X on bench Anandatech got 76 FPS(i wonder is it on Max or Average?).. i manage get 55+Average... and is on VaporX but Temp under 60C..
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jan 15 2015, 11:39 PM)
hmm.gif  watercool ? cause on MetroLL 1080p Very High R9 290X on bench Anandatech got 76 FPS(i wonder is it on Max or Average?)..  i manage get 55+Average... and is on VaporX but Temp under 60C..
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Nope, reference. Maybe AA turn off, not sure since i don't have MetroLL to test.

Meanwhile, TSMC’s 16nm FinFET Faces Major Delay – Qualcomm Jumps Ship To Samsung

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Goldfries review use this setting and get similar score to Anandtech's result. hmm.gif
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post Jan 16 2015, 08:39 AM

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jan 15 2015, 10:36 AM)
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i think the issue is what cooling solution will AMD employ to cool it

R9 290X reference cooler is horrible. unless they make the jump to something like R9 295X or those ASUS,Giga, MSI etc coolers, 300W is pretty massive hurdle to maintain best clock performance
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post Jan 16 2015, 09:24 AM

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So they are taking the 'go big, or go home' strategy? hmm.gif
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post Jan 16 2015, 09:54 AM

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If my PSU cannot take the power, can I install another PSU with different wattage and power the GPU?

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