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post Jan 24 2015, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jan 24 2015, 05:04 PM)
how much money you got alot that don't mind to spend ?  go Gigabyte GTX 980 G1(3year warranties)  or save RM800+  go for MSI R9 290X Lightning(3 year warranties) both gpu is POWER to GAME on Ultra 1080P  and 620W should be okay to power this gpu...
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Frankly tell you, my budget max RM2300, final upgrade before GST, plan to use it for some time (at least three years).

Of coz, if possible cheaper the solution is better i can save back my budget. so if I follow this direction, GTX 970 or 290X will be more sensible. As personally I'm a mild AMD fanboy, so emotionally i more toward 290X. But I have read some review state that GTX 970 shows better performance. For GTX 980, there are a demon inside my heart always telling me to get the best card around (which is GTX 980 for now)
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QUOTE(wongkoewei @ Jan 24 2015, 06:22 PM)
Frankly tell you, my budget max RM2300, final upgrade before GST, plan to use it for some time (at least three years).

Of coz, if possible cheaper the solution is better i can save back my budget. so if I follow this direction, GTX 970 or 290X will be more sensible. As personally I'm a mild AMD fanboy, so emotionally i more toward 290X. But I have read some review state that  GTX 970 shows better performance. For GTX 980, there are a demon inside my heart always telling me to get the best card around (which is GTX 980 for now)
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buy lightning and a good 256gb ssd.. you get both powerfull gpu and high speed pc.. with some money left, go get good dinner.. nuff said! tongue.gif
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post Jan 24 2015, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(wongkoewei @ Jan 24 2015, 06:22 PM)
Frankly tell you, my budget max RM2300, final upgrade before GST, plan to use it for some time (at least three years).

Of coz, if possible cheaper the solution is better i can save back my budget. so if I follow this direction, GTX 970 or 290X will be more sensible. As personally I'm a mild AMD fanboy, so emotionally i more toward 290X. But I have read some review state that  GTX 970 shows better performance. For GTX 980, there are a demon inside my heart always telling me to get the best card around (which is GTX 980 for now)
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eh dun worried so much with GST, at moment all GPU you buy is overprice already, so if the seller increase their price ask/request for Vat number claim they reg GST give a call 1-300-888-500 or 03-88822111 see if they REG their company to charge 6% Good and Service Tax and Company made RM500,000 a year in profit... GOV LOVE TO CHARGE THEM TAX! haha

http://gst.customs.gov.my/en/cu/Pages/cu_ccc.aspx

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so get MSI r9 290X Lightning RM1.3K good price... and when R9 380X out sell your lightning get R9 380X icon_idea.gif
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post Jan 24 2015, 08:07 PM

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jan 24 2015, 07:57 PM)
eh dun worried so much with GST,  at moment all GPU you buy is overprice already, so if the seller increase their price ask/request for Vat number claim they reg GST give a call  1-300-888-500 or 03-88822111  see if they REG their company to charge 6% Good and Service Tax and Company made RM500,000 a year in profit... GOV LOVE TO CHARGE THEM TAX! haha

http://gst.customs.gov.my/en/cu/Pages/cu_ccc.aspx

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so get MSI r9 290X Lightning RM1.3K good price... and when R9 380X out  sell your lightning get R9 380X  icon_idea.gif
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When do you think it will out? 380X~ Now all we know about it just rumours and rumours with unknown amount of element of truths inside~~ For Lowyat shop i think they all can make 500K annually with little sweat lol flex.gif flex.gif

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post Jan 24 2015, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(arifhasim85 @ Jan 24 2015, 06:45 PM)
buy lightning and a good 256gb ssd.. you get both powerfull gpu and high speed pc.. with some money left, go get good dinner.. nuff said!  tongue.gif
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nice plan... rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif i'm dreaming for A SSD also, maybe not 256GB, might get cheapo 128GB for wondows only.
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post Jan 24 2015, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(wongkoewei @ Jan 24 2015, 08:07 PM)
When do you think it will out? 380X~ Now all we know about it just rumours and rumours with unknown amount of element of truths inside~~ For Lowyat shop i think they all can make 500K annually with little sweat lol flex.gif  flex.gif
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GST they can or not made 500K a year is up to him to declare it.. that's meant pay %% to Gov.. why GST required strict reg for them to claim/charge GST 6% charge towards customer... why u need ask them vat number.. before made purchase.. cool2.gif bro what ever it is 6% GST no different than moment SST(sale service Tax) we all paying for goods.. just with GST alot got Exclude from TAX smile.gif e.g. Education Fee, Public transport, Feul Petrol Ron95/Deisel, sale purchase or Rental Residential properties / First 300 unit Electric / Basic Food item(raw chicken,meat,fish at market) /reading material/newspaper /Medical medicine drug (cover heart/diabetic/)

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post Jan 24 2015, 08:24 PM

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OFF TOPIC:
GST they can or not made 500K a year is up to him to declare it.. that's meant pay %% to Gov.. why GST required strict reg for them to claim/charge GST 6% charge towards customer... why u need ask them vat number.. before made purchase..  cool2.gif   bro what ever it is 6% GST no different than  moment SST(sale service Tax) we all paying for goods..  just with GST alot got Exclude from TAX smile.gif  e.g. Education Fee, Public transport, Feul Petrol Ron95/Deisel, sale purchase or Rental Residential properties / First 300 unit Electric / Basic Food item(raw chicken,meat,fish at market) /reading material/newspaper /Medical medicine drug (cover heart/diabetic/)

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Wow... informative!! what goods we currently have now really do pay sales/service tax? Do you mean that most electronics we have now are paid for these taxes already? You think GST may not have impact on electronic prices? if so, that good news indeed

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post Jan 24 2015, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(wongkoewei @ Jan 24 2015, 08:24 PM)
Wow... informative!! what goods we currently have now really do pay sales/service tax? Do you mean that most electronics we have now are paid for these taxes already?
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haha why u think some seller up price ? say cover their supplier charge/upkeep so on..(but some Famous excuses is MALAY currency is falling over dollar so we sell higher or have to increase.. which is wrong and breach consumer law in malaysia) now you know if they charge GST wont be higher than 6% and need to have GST Reg number on Receipt. But u buy Gpu before.. you see any SST 6% charge on the Receipt ? i bet is no... lolx so no worried la with GST... it effect if your big big buyer for commercial purpose and how Malay Gov introduce re-vamp Good service tax to monitor those big big company from tax exemption...
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post Jan 24 2015, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jan 24 2015, 08:40 PM)
haha  why u think some seller  up price ? say cover their supplier charge/upkeep so on..(but some Famous excuses is  MALAY currency is falling over dollar so we  sell higher or have to increase.. which is wrong and breach consumer law in malaysia)  now you know if they charge GST wont be higher than 6% and need to have GST Reg number on Receipt.  But u buy Gpu before.. you see any SST 6% charge on the Receipt ? i bet is no...  lolx  so no worried la with GST...  it effect if your big big buyer for commercial purpose and how Malay Gov introduce re-vamp Good service tax to monitor those big big company from tax exemption...
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yeah i went to lowyat few days ago for some inquiry, I heard those reasons lol! blink.gif blink.gif blink.gif I guess no matter hoe tiny of the impact, we need to pay extra 6% if those electronics were not paid SST before. But I'm not really sure if the electronic parts i bought a few years back are paid for the tax or not. Should i concern and buy my dream card before april or no need to worry the price wont up?

PS: sorry guys I know this is off topic and not gonna do with Radeon, but I guess as a consumer here we should know better the future tax implementation right? hmm.gif

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post Jan 24 2015, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jan 24 2015, 05:04 PM)
how much money you got alot that don't mind to spend ?  go Gigabyte GTX 980 G1(3year warranties)  or save RM800+  go for MSI R9 290X Lightning(3 year warranties) both gpu is POWER to GAME on Ultra 1080P  and 620W should be okay to power this gpu...
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Regard of GTX 980, how do you see minor brand like Leadtek, i just know they are quite low profile and almost all nvidia quadro card i saw were from leadtek just like Sapphire for AMD firepro. Priced at RM1999, will that be better buy compared with major bradn like MSI Giga or ASUS which their GTX 980 priced at 2299 or more
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jan 24 2015, 08:19 PM)
OFF TOPIC:
GST they can or not made 500K a year is up to him to declare it.. that's meant pay %% to Gov.. why GST required strict reg for them to claim/charge GST 6% charge towards customer... why u need ask them vat number.. before made purchase..  cool2.gif  bro what ever it is 6% GST no different than  moment SST(sale service Tax) we all paying for goods..  just with GST alot got Exclude from TAX smile.gif  e.g. Education Fee, Public transport, Feul Petrol Ron95/Deisel, sale purchase or Rental Residential properties / First 300 unit Electric / Basic Food item(raw chicken,meat,fish at market) /reading material/newspaper /Medical medicine drug (cover heart/diabetic/)

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wah unseen the only pro in GST here notworthy.gif

you work consulting 4 GST company is it icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(wongkoewei @ Jan 24 2015, 11:01 PM)
Regard of GTX 980, how do you see minor brand like Leadtek, i just know they are quite low profile and almost all nvidia quadro card i saw were from leadtek just like Sapphire for AMD firepro. Priced at RM1999, will that be better buy compared with major bradn like MSI Giga or ASUS which their GTX 980 priced at 2299 or more
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HMm.. my humble opinion when buying Gpu (don't go for brands/Color unless your Shallow like me tongue.gif) First Warranties ! more the better(Zotac i heards give 5 year? if choose Nvidia) Cooling this you need to do some Research go read 2-3 review not focus on single review... go youtube watch video review... Know what PSU requirement and Length of the GPU cards... will it fit into case...
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jan 24 2015, 01:47 AM)
eh... me and momo will have more happy time... till june 2015... x  blush.gif
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by way check out, AMD left TSMC >? ?? eh  r9 390X is on 14NM ? lolx

http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-...m-finfet-chips/
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Yes they're leaving TSMC together with Qualcomm i think. Nah, if the 390x is on 14nm then you have to wait till 2016/2017.
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I thought 380X is slated around June and still 28nm?

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jan 25 2015, 10:05 AM)
I thought 380X is slated around June?
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I think..after April.. brows.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(terradrive @ Jan 25 2015, 10:05 AM)
I thought 380X is slated around June and still 28nm?
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Yup, that is correct.
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post Jan 25 2015, 11:13 AM

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Yup, that is correct.
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Nvidia already forced to use 28nm on GTX 900 series, I guess much of the rumor said that the TSMC production of 20nm (or below) chips are devoted to Apple and qualcomm. But May I ask that lowering the nm may help in power consumption, but will it make large impact on performance? From what I see when Intel came from 32nm to 22nm, the performance difference are not as drastic as I thought.
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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jan 25 2015, 09:32 AM)
doh.gif  doh.gif

Yes they're leaving TSMC together with Qualcomm i think. Nah, if the 390x is on 14nm then you have to wait till 2016/2017.
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I heard they are going to Global Foundries. I think AMD should consider cooperate with Samsung as well, they got one of the best electronic manufacturing technology around.
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jan 25 2015, 04:08 AM)
HMm.. my humble opinion when buying Gpu (don't go for brands/Color unless your Shallow like me tongue.gif) First Warranties ! more the better(Zotac i heards give 5 year? if choose Nvidia) Cooling this you need to do some Research go read 2-3 review not focus on single review... go youtube watch video review...  Know what PSU requirement and Length of the GPU cards... will it fit into case...
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I will go for brands or colour only if all these brands are similar in price and similar in perceived quality brows.gif . But for some brand like Sapphire for AMD/ATi; Leadtek for Nvidia, they are very less advertised (especially for leadtek,I rarely see anyone using this brand as review subject since GTX 700; Sapphire enjoy very nice review though, especially for their superb GPU cooler). for these brand I just don't know if I should choose them against the major brand which are significantly more expensive. This kind of dilemma always appearing when I did anykind of upgrade (such as, dilemma btw AMD FX 8350 or i5 4670K when I build my current rig, while my 7870 came from my previous rig which was a Core 2 Quad Q9440). For the past, I will always go for the price (thats why I might always choose sapphire for AMD card, and this brand enjoys good review), but now I don't know. As I have never set my eye on nvidia before as past gen AMD card just too good in CP value.
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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jan 24 2015, 08:19 PM)
OFF TOPIC:
GST they can or not made 500K a year is up to him to declare it.. that's meant pay %% to Gov.. why GST required strict reg for them to claim/charge GST 6% charge towards customer... why u need ask them vat number.. before made purchase..  cool2.gif  bro what ever it is 6% GST no different than  moment SST(sale service Tax) we all paying for goods..  just with GST alot got Exclude from TAX smile.gif  e.g. Education Fee, Public transport, Feul Petrol Ron95/Deisel, sale purchase or Rental Residential properties / First 300 unit Electric / Basic Food item(raw chicken,meat,fish at market) /reading material/newspaper /Medical medicine drug (cover heart/diabetic/)

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company who made 500k revenue annually = must register GST so can charge customers 6% to claim back the 6% which u pay to the supplier when ur supplier sell you the goods.
company who not register GST = they cannot charge 6% on invoice so cannot claim back the GST by supplier. this kind of company normally will markup higher to cover back the 6%.

example:
distributors sell Company A (GST) and B (non GST register company) the product with cost RM100 + 6% GST = RM106
Company A sell RM130+6% = RM137.80 to end users (Najib collect RM7.80-RM6 =RM1.80 from company A)
*get profit RM30
Company B sell RM130 to end users (he cannot back the GST charge by supplier)
*get profit RM24 (RM130-RM106) if he want to sell at same price.

these are just basic for the GST theory. the only affected the market is the SRP will increase from RM130 to RM137.80.
alot of things now we pay with Service tax, the service tax will change the name to GST so the price remain the same (KFC, etcs)

now, computer products price up, not becoz of GST, but the currency exchange rate. u can imagine the rate is raise up from RM3.1 to RM3.65 (highest is RM3.7) - look at the Selling TT/OD column
http://www.maybank2u.com.my/mbbfrx/f_foreign_exchange.htm

Malaysia doesn't produce computer parts, all import from oversea, even the Dell manufacture in Penang import the parts from oversea but assembly local.

Fluctuations in exchange rates (to higher) will benefits if export. if rate drop to lower then it will benefits if import.
exmple USD250 for a GTX960, the reasonable price is RM775, but due to the currency exchange rate now, the price became RM900 something.

another good things for GST is, the sales tax changed to 6% from 10%. when you do import, not every items will get 10% sales tax and 10% import tax, i know powersupply, casing, cooler got sales tax, others i not sure.
so some of the computer products "maybe" will cheaper. During the GST period, all the expenses like transport fees also has 6% so we cannot assume all price will cheaper 4%.

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