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post Jan 25 2015, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(wongkoewei @ Jan 25 2015, 11:30 AM)
I will go for brands or colour only if all these brands are similar in price and similar in perceived quality brows.gif . But for some brand like Sapphire for AMD/ATi; Leadtek for Nvidia, they are very less advertised (especially for leadtek,I rarely see anyone using this brand as review subject since GTX 700; Sapphire enjoy very nice review though, especially for their superb GPU cooler). for these brand I just don't know if I should choose them against the major brand which are significantly more expensive. This kind of dilemma always appearing when I did anykind of upgrade (such as, dilemma btw AMD FX 8350 or i5 4670K when I build my current rig, while my 7870 came from my previous rig which was a Core 2 Quad Q9440). For the past, I will always go for the price (thats why I might always choose sapphire for AMD card, and this brand enjoys good review), but now I don't know. As I have never set my eye on nvidia before as past gen AMD card just too good in CP value.
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so... eh there LYnet Seller Reply to you.. above this post smile.gif GST should not worried you.. Just Currency Exchange Fluctuation Charges add 15-25%... which already in place... so worry price increase?.. no more is already increase... and place on Current sale.

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so when/ what Gpu your going to go for ? if your current Rig is no issues and want AMD better Wait.. AMD R9 380X smile.gif
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post Jan 25 2015, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(zhen^wei @ Jan 25 2015, 11:52 AM)
company who made 500k revenue annually = must register GST so can charge customers 6% to claim back the 6% which u pay to the supplier when ur supplier sell you the goods.
company who not register GST = they cannot charge 6% on invoice so cannot claim back the GST by supplier. this kind of company normally will markup higher to cover back the 6%.

example:
distributors sell Company A (GST) and B (non GST register company) the product with cost RM100 + 6% GST = RM106
Company A sell RM130+6% = RM137.80 to end users (Najib collect RM7.80-RM6 =RM1.80 from company A)
*get profit RM30
Company B sell RM130 to end users (he cannot back the GST charge by supplier)
*get profit RM24 (RM130-RM106) if he want to sell at same price.

these are just basic for the GST theory. the only affected the market is the SRP will increase from RM130 to RM137.80.
alot of things now we pay with Service tax, the service tax will change the name to GST so the price remain the same (KFC, etcs)

now, computer products price up, not becoz of GST, but the currency exchange rate. u can imagine the rate is raise up from RM3.1 to RM3.65 (highest is RM3.7) - look at the Selling TT/OD column
http://www.maybank2u.com.my/mbbfrx/f_foreign_exchange.htm

Malaysia doesn't produce computer parts, all import from oversea, even the Dell manufacture in Penang import the parts from oversea but assembly local.

Fluctuations in exchange rates (to higher) will benefits if export. if rate drop to lower then it will benefits if import.
exmple USD250 for a GTX960, the reasonable price is RM775, but due to the currency exchange rate now, the price became RM900 something.

another good things for GST is, the sales tax changed to 6% from 10%. when you do import, not every items will get 10% sales tax and 10% import tax, i know powersupply, casing, cooler got sales tax, others i not sure.
so some of the computer products "maybe" will cheaper. During the GST period, all the expenses like transport fees also has 6% so we cannot assume all price will cheaper 4%.
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yes company made 500K a year must Register before end dec 2014.. now they got Saman RM1K each delay.. and company that not made 500K a year also best to Reg but not force to.. and who not REG are not allow to Charge customer GST 6%... agree
Quote "GST can only be levied and charged if the business is registered under GST. A business is not liable to be registered if its annual turnover of taxable supplies does not reach the prescribed threshold. Therefore, such businesses cannot charge and collect GST on the supply of goods and services made to their customers. Nevertheless, businesses can apply to be registered voluntarily. " GST Gov
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Najib collect ? eh bro this money go for the benefit of Country.. Qoute " Almost all countries collect income tax, which is a percentage of what you earn as an individual. Another way the government gets revenue is by collecting tax from business operations, like sales tax and duties on items that are bought or sold.
We need to pay tax so that the government can operate. GST is one method of collecting taxes which works better than others. "
- Timbalan Menteri Kewangan II YB . Datuk Chua Tee Yong 2 January 2015. <- Very Handsome Fellow only country Malaysia Any racial can become Minister 1Malaysia ! thumbup.gif

price Fluctuation exchange.. eh i check GTX 960 GTX 960 Newegg price 210usd -240usd brand EVGA, MSI, Asus so if seller sold 250usd GTX 960 True should sell RM900 but ... USD market GPU sell 10-30USD less... BUT HEY ! i dun mind ! biggrin.gif WHEN Sapphire R9 380X is out i swear no matter PRICE (of course i ask discount!! haha) i WILL BUY IF YOUR shop SELL thumbup.gif
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post Jan 25 2015, 01:26 PM

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jan 25 2015, 04:08 AM)
HMm.. my humble opinion when buying Gpu (don't go for brands/Color unless your Shallow like me tongue.gif) First Warranties ! more the better(Zotac i heards give 5 year? if choose Nvidia) Cooling this you need to do some Research go read 2-3 review not focus on single review... go youtube watch video review...  Know what PSU requirement and Length of the GPU cards... will it fit into case...
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i apply your method in buying my first house also laugh.gif tongue.gif
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post Jan 25 2015, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(Unseen83 @ Jan 25 2015, 01:16 PM)
WHEN Sapphire R9 380X is out i swear no matter PRICE (of course i ask discount!! haha)  i WILL BUY IF YOUR shop SELL  thumbup.gif
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Haha, Royal A fan spotted. laugh.gif
After april, Those RM2k range GC card are harder to afford... mad.gif
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post Jan 25 2015, 02:56 PM

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QUOTE(yhsiau @ Jan 25 2015, 02:45 PM)
Haha, Royal A fan spotted.  laugh.gif
After april, Those RM2k range GC card are harder to afford...  mad.gif
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I'm a long term AMD card user, I really do hope disaster will not come, but i guess hope will do very less to help LOL sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Jan 26 2015, 01:22 AM

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Despite the recent release of GTX 960, R9 285 is still the best performance-to-price card out there.
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post Jan 26 2015, 05:47 AM

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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Jan 26 2015, 01:22 AM)
Despite the recent release of GTX 960, R9 285 is still the best performance-to-price card out there.
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For me, I will lean more toward better performing 280X for that particular price range. LOL~ rclxms.gif rclxms.gif flex.gif flex.gif

despite R9 285 being newer and more efficient in term of power efficiency, I admit I'm that kind of guy who will not have a single thought of TDP issue IF the power supply are enough... brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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post Jan 26 2015, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Jan 26 2015, 01:22 AM)
Despite the recent release of GTX 960, R9 285 is still the best performance-to-price card out there.
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Nah, R9-290 Tri-X is only RM1159 now. For 30% more money u get almost 40%-50% more performance compare to 285.
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post Jan 26 2015, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jan 26 2015, 10:15 AM)
Nah, R9-290 Tri-X is only RM1159 now. For 30% more money u get almost 40%-50% more performance compare to 285.
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Too close to a 290X Lightning... RM1239 only... brows.gif
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post Jan 26 2015, 11:31 AM

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The 380X has listed in some etailers...

http://wccftech.com/amd-r9-380x/

Note: pricing is likely to be a placeholder. icon_idea.gif
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post Jan 26 2015, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Jan 26 2015, 10:20 AM)
Too close to a 290X Lightning... RM1239 only... brows.gif
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Got 2 types of Lightning:-

1030MHZ Lite version
1080MHZ Full version

Which version is RM1239?
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post Jan 26 2015, 11:52 AM

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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jan 26 2015, 11:42 AM)
Got 2 types of Lightning:-

1030MHZ Lite version
1080MHZ Full version

Which version is RM1239?
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Got any source to this? So far I only seem to find the 1080MHz version in their website.
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post Jan 26 2015, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Jan 26 2015, 11:52 AM)
Got any source to this? So far I only seem to find the 1080MHz version in their website.
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I saw this while reading and watching Youtube about MSI Lightning. I'll paste here once I find it again.
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post Jan 26 2015, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Jan 26 2015, 11:52 AM)
Got any source to this? So far I only seem to find the 1080MHz version in their website.
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He's right, got 2 version.

1. MSI R9 290X Lightning LE
2. MSI R9 290X Lightning
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post Jan 26 2015, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jan 26 2015, 11:57 AM)
He's right, got 2 version.

1. MSI R9 290X Lightning LE
2. MSI R9 290X Lightning
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By the gods, it is true then. Anyway, I do not think a mere 50MHz makes much difference since these beasts are made to be overclocked anyway. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 26 2015, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Jan 26 2015, 10:20 AM)
Too close to a 290X Lightning... RM1239 only... brows.gif
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post Jan 26 2015, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jan 26 2015, 11:57 AM)
He's right, got 2 version.

1. MSI R9 290X Lightning LE
2. MSI R9 290X Lightning
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Thanks lol... didn't know got such listing!!!
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post Jan 26 2015, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Jan 26 2015, 12:00 PM)
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Thanks to this chocobo7779 always promote the 290X Lightning, now I also start to feel like kena poisoned already. sweat.gif
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post Jan 26 2015, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(rav3n82 @ Jan 26 2015, 11:59 AM)
By the gods, it is true then. Anyway, I do not think a mere 50MHz makes much difference since these beasts are made to be overclocked anyway. biggrin.gif
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FYI, the LE version is pretty much the R9 290X Lightning hardware-wise, just the clock speeds are lowered for cheaper pricing. icon_idea.gif

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/msi-gtx-7...g-le,25350.html
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QUOTE(gogo2 @ Jan 26 2015, 11:42 AM)
Got 2 types of Lightning:-

1030MHZ Lite version
1080MHZ Full version

Which version is RM1239?
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