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mai-k
post Sep 29 2006, 09:35 PM

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QUOTE(asellus @ Sep 27 2006, 08:37 PM)
3 pages and everyone missed the most obvious solution for forumers here:-

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showforum=46
[Lowyat.Net DC++ Hub]
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That's good idea. LYN members can exchange download stuff in local private server.
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post Sep 29 2006, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(khsj @ Sep 29 2006, 12:48 AM)
What about  international newsgroups...i heard we can get downloads from newsgroups. But do you think Tmnet would have blocked them?
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They haven't throttle newsgroups.

I used below test server. Max 3 connections gives me 76 KB/s download.

204.153.244.170 port 119
user/pass : none
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post Sep 29 2006, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(socratesman @ Sep 29 2006, 09:50 PM)
They haven't throttle newsgroups.

I used below test server. Max 3 connections gives me 76 KB/s download.

204.153.244.170 port 119
user/pass : none
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HOw do i use that? ..sorry im so noob blush.gif
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post Sep 29 2006, 11:21 PM

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QUOTE(strace @ Sep 28 2006, 08:09 PM)
there is no need to inspect every packet, the hardware just need to monitor connection behaviours for each IPs e.g. having 300 active connections with new 20 connections per 10 seconds will grant you a speed limit.
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this could be true .. right now i am using utorrent to test this theory out.... running utorrent on max global number of connections of 5 users. and maximum user connected per each torrent 5 users... suddenly my torrent start moving again ... and i notice only international users .. no more malaysians ips....

this is better than before when it doesn't even move until i get connected to other malaysians ips....

although speed averaging aroung 10k ... might need to play around more with active connection by increasing until tmnut hardware kick in to block the connection... this is to find the break even point

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post Sep 29 2006, 11:28 PM

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I tried that as well, but the speed are just horrible because you are connected to too few peers.

Yes the international speed from peers come in when they are not much established connection, but it will got shutted down after 10 or 20 minutes, the last time I did that, a JPN peer shoots up to 50+kb/s to me, but only lasted me 20 minutes, not enough for me to finish my task.

Then I try to reconnect, cannot get back the IP agian, either he went offline, or TM blocked his IP O_o
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post Sep 30 2006, 01:25 AM

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at max connection 6 users settings and still going strong ..still with all 6 ip not a single one of them malaysians

... maybe another factor because my downloads do not overshoot the 50+kb/s... that could be another stop measure by tmnut at that speed... so maybe u should set speed setting below 50+kb/s

QUOTE(Haruji Sora @ Sep 29 2006, 11:28 PM)
I tried that as well, but the speed are just horrible because you are connected to too few peers.

Yes the international speed from peers come in when they are not much established connection, but it will got shutted down after 10 or 20 minutes, the last time I did that, a JPN peer shoots up to 50+kb/s to me, but only lasted me 20 minutes, not enough for me to finish my task.

Then I try to reconnect, cannot get back the IP agian, either he went offline, or TM blocked his IP O_o
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post Sep 30 2006, 02:29 AM

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whois.domaintools.com

I tried this... Found some info on there... There got some phone no and address...
Wat r thy for?
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post Sep 30 2006, 11:40 AM

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andyz, may i ask
is ur encryption on? rc4?
you set max 6 connections globally izzit? how many max connections per torrent did u set?
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post Sep 30 2006, 12:15 PM

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as been expected before, TMNet has finally capped the files dloading thru P2P. from the rumours, they might introduce special packages for heavy dloaders or briefly, special difff packages, base on our usage and requirements.
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QUESTION: If all Malaysians using BT are connected to a VPN, would they all look at each other as a peer sitting in one network inside the BT clients? Cuz if it possible, we could create a VPN and add as many local BT users to it since throttling is not applied for packet switching inside the country. What do you guys think?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenVPN
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamachi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wippien

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for now i already try 3 type of solution to bypass this shaping.. but all of them cost u money..

first i try VPN for 29 Dollar for 3 month.. This one very good... u can get ur torrent to normal speed without problem, but sumtime server drop or hard to connect. But i dont really like this solution since all the packet will be encrypted.. not just ur torrent. So it will effect ur browsing speed.

Second i use http-tunnel, this sofware should be use to bypass company proxy or college proxy, but since the concept still the same, u can use it.. But the speed sumtime good sumtimes bad.

The last one i use ssh tunnel, for 10 dollar for a month. Unlike vpn, with ssh tunnel u can choose which sofware u want to encrypt.. so ur browsing speed will not be effected. N for the torrent speed, its kinda hard to get 100kb/s with this. But u can easyly hit 50+kbs or more... even on public torrent i can get 70+kb/s .. so i think that good enough. So for now i will stick with this ssh tunnel.

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can give a tutorial on the ssh tunnel thing? where did u sign up?
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post Sep 30 2006, 07:26 PM

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i use this one

https://www.secure-tunnel.com .. u can pay with paypal or credit card. They got tutorial on their website. But please dont expect too much since sumtimes their server will be loaded so the speed gonna decrease a little.. but at least u can download from internation peer n u can sleep without worry. biggrin.gif

but i also found another one..

http://www.pfproxy.com .. 15 dollar a month via e-gold. This still new, i dont how good
their services. Maybe sumone can try tongue.gif

for sumone who wanna find free solution, sorry.. i cant find yet.
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post Sep 30 2006, 08:32 PM

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Would these solutions be suitable using BT with private trackers where the "share" ratio is important to ensure you dont get banned?
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QUOTE(blackamikaze @ Sep 30 2006, 06:54 PM)
for now i already try 3 type of solution to bypass this shaping.. but all of them cost u money..

first i try VPN for 29 Dollar for 3 month.. This one very good... u can get ur torrent to normal speed without problem, but sumtime server drop or hard to connect. But i dont really like this solution since all the packet will be encrypted.. not just ur torrent. So it will effect ur browsing speed.

Second i use http-tunnel, this sofware should be use to bypass company proxy or college proxy, but since the concept still the same, u can use it.. But the speed sumtime good sumtimes bad.

The last one i use ssh tunnel, for 10 dollar for a month. Unlike vpn, with ssh tunnel u can choose which sofware u want to encrypt.. so ur browsing speed will not be effected. N for the torrent speed, its kinda hard to get 100kb/s with this. But u can easyly hit 50+kbs or more... even on public torrent i can get 70+kb/s .. so i think that good enough. So for now i will stick with this ssh tunnel.
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This just proves those meatbags at TMnut is doing traffic shaping to our torrents since our friend here can download normally using ssh tunnel. I am going to give those clowns a few more weeks and if the situation does not change then I will sign up one of these services to bypass shaping like our friend here. The only downside to this is that I have to pay to get back my SPEED! DAMN YOU TO HELL TMNUT!!!!!!!!!! vmad.gif
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yeah streamyx totally shaping our torrent speed right now.. i dont know why they wanna hide it. but the downside of all my solution, its not free.. even 10 dollar we can consider expensive when we convert to our money...
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post Oct 1 2006, 12:35 AM

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blackamikaze, your VPN method is basically similar to a proxy server is it?

the one i am proposing is actually different but i am not sure if it would work or not...if it does, it would require some organizing to be done and perhaps set up a portal
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QUOTE(blackamikaze @ Sep 30 2006, 07:26 PM)
i use this one

https://www.secure-tunnel.com .. u can pay with paypal or credit card. They got tutorial on their website. But please dont expect too much since sumtimes their server will be loaded so the speed gonna decrease a little.. but at least u can download from internation peer n u can sleep without worry.  biggrin.gif

but i also found another one..

http://www.pfproxy.com .. 15 dollar a month via e-gold. This still new, i dont how good 
their services. Maybe sumone can try  tongue.gif

for sumone who wanna find free solution, sorry.. i cant find yet.
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hi blackamikaze,

about the secure tunnel, what's the average DL speed during day time, and night time? also, what is the difference between platinum and gold package? i think i'm going to get an account if the DL speed is good.

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post Oct 1 2006, 08:47 AM

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QUOTE(kramuse @ Oct 1 2006, 12:35 AM)
blackamikaze, your VPN method is basically similar to a proxy server is it?

the one i am proposing is actually different but i am not sure if it would work or not...if it does, it would require some organizing to be done and perhaps set up a portal
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i will not say similar.. since vpn will encrypt ur whole connection. But proxy not encrypt ur connection at all.. unless u talking about ssh proxy.

QUOTE(-=Axis=- @ Oct 1 2006, 08:13 AM)
hi blackamikaze,

about the secure tunnel, what's the average DL speed during day time, and night time? also, what is the difference between platinum and gold package? i think i'm going to get an account if the DL speed is good.
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actually only platinum can be use for for p2p.. average speed should be 50+kb/s day or night, i will make a few test n post the result here.. i think there is better ssh tunnel out there. I will keep searching..

This post has been edited by blackamikaze: Oct 1 2006, 08:48 AM
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post Oct 1 2006, 09:16 AM

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then you pay them for that package ahh?

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