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kramuse
post Sep 30 2006, 11:40 AM

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andyz, may i ask
is ur encryption on? rc4?
you set max 6 connections globally izzit? how many max connections per torrent did u set?
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post Sep 30 2006, 02:18 PM

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QUESTION: If all Malaysians using BT are connected to a VPN, would they all look at each other as a peer sitting in one network inside the BT clients? Cuz if it possible, we could create a VPN and add as many local BT users to it since throttling is not applied for packet switching inside the country. What do you guys think?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenVPN
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamachi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wippien
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post Oct 1 2006, 12:35 AM

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blackamikaze, your VPN method is basically similar to a proxy server is it?

the one i am proposing is actually different but i am not sure if it would work or not...if it does, it would require some organizing to be done and perhaps set up a portal
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post Oct 1 2006, 03:12 PM

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Finally, I have found a way how Malaysian peers could connect to each other if they are downloading the same torrent.

This method is meant for Azureus clients only, I am not sure if 'mew'torrent or BitComet and other clients out there support this function.

Once I set this option, I got connected to several other Malaysians and we brought each other up to same % completed download.

Tools > Options >Plugins >LAN Peer Finder

Enable LAN Peer Finder: check
Local networks: <put in here all the IP ranges for Malaysia eg 219.95.*.*;60.48.*.* and etc>

Automatically include loopback/link/site local networks: check
Explicit peers: <type inside here people whom you know have static IP address(public or private) and also use bittorrent all the time>



Heres the list of IP ranges in Malaysia, you can add them inside 'Local Network' but keep in mind each address range are reserved for their own purposes(corporate/personal etc). We need to find out which address ranges are meant just for home users.

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**This thing needs further testing for verification

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post Oct 2 2006, 10:06 AM

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This SSH thingy, would it be possible for multiple users to share one account? smile.gif eg 2 people with different external IPs
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post Oct 2 2006, 05:02 PM

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No one answered my question. Would it be possible for more than one external IP to use a SSH tunneling account?
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post Oct 3 2006, 09:24 AM

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QUOTE(altie @ Oct 3 2006, 12:21 AM)
You can't set µTorrent to accept only local peers. You can do that in Azureus though. Someone posted up instructions about that already. But I think you're getting the concept wrong.

Not every M'sian can set to only accept local peers, because then, where would the source files be coming from? Most BT stuff comes from overseas, even WoW updates. Someone's got to get it from outside before he can seed it inside M'sia.

Hope that clears up the confusion. Bottom line is that you can set to accept connections from local peers only, but you're only hurting the community.
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That is not true. The method which I posted previously simply tells Azureus that these ranges are 'near' me. If a connection to any of them has been established, preserve it as much as possible. The moment I activated that, I would always have at least 1 Malaysian peer connected to me in all my torrents with a priority given to those with higher % because that is the main purpose of this plugin.


QUOTE(Neslo[#^PenG^#] @ Oct 3 2006, 01:38 AM)
cool explanation, thxx alot thumbup.gif

is that mean if there is some popular files that alot of us lowyat members wants to download, maybe we can make a thread/post to gather all those interested members IP, then we add each other, and we will have good download speed for that file?

is that an feasible idea to help us with our current prob?
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Dude, I had this in mind but mine was somewhat different. My idea was establishing multiple VPN tunnels to others out there, add the range of Malaysian IP ranges inside the Azureus > LAN Peer Finder and hopefully Azureus will look at these VPN connections as LAN ones. I do not know if this is posible or not as I have not tried it but would love to. All my friends have put their trust in BitComet soo....

The idea above I believe could be implemented by the tracking server I believe. Something like
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if Malaysian IP
  connnect to more Malaysian IPs
  set max incoming international connection to 3

Well just an idea... tho for the above to work, it would require us to disable the 'decentralize' option in our clients.
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post Oct 3 2006, 11:04 AM

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Thanks btfan, though it seems hard registering. Server error sad.gif
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post Oct 3 2006, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(abc2005 @ Oct 3 2006, 07:52 PM)
we are eagerly waiting for your news! rclxms.gif
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So true!!

By the way I have been getting 5-25 kBps all day long with occassional 50 kBps downloads (which lasts for at least a minute or two). I have also been connected to this Korean and American peer all day long. The Korean peer has been feeding me a constant 10-25 kBps all day.

My international peers are just fast dudes. These torrents I am using are pretty old as well. Here's what my settings are for Azureus. It could help some of you guys out there.

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Connection -> Tick all, make sure ports are a 5 digit number each
Advance Network Settings -> Max simultaneous outbound connection attempts:2
Transport Encryption: RC4, tick all

Transfer ->
Max connections per torrent:20
Total max connections:200 (my total connections today have been less than 100)

Plugins ->
LAN Peer Finder: Check
219.95.*.*;218.208.*.*;218.100.18.*;218.100.22.*;218.111.*.*;60.48.*.*;60.49.*.*;60.50.*.*;60.51.*.*;60.52.*.*;60.53.*.*;60.54.*.*;
if someone has the time, please type out all the remaining addresses as well lol

Tracker -> Sharing
Protocol for Shared Resources: Decentralised(i believe this option beats the purpose for LAN Peer Finder but wat the hell)
Allow decnetralized tracking when tracker unavaliable: Check


Those of you who wanan 'test' the settings. After applying them, exit azureus(clsoe JVM), disconnect from internet(to renew IP and void all previous connections) and then check it. Do let it run for some time and let me know how it works for you.
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post Oct 4 2006, 12:17 AM

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virtual, I have tried TOR and I2P. both dont seem to have any difference. sad.gif
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post Oct 4 2006, 12:32 AM

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virtual, i got the same speeds i got before applying the settings for each of the networks(roughly 5 kBps). after returning back to default, i tried messing around with the azureus settings and found some good settings though not definite.
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post Oct 6 2006, 12:09 AM

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can we stop this from turning into a flame thread please? tvcat and everyone else enough replying. altie, if possible please delete all posts pertaining to tvcat please. i dont think its contributing to this thread
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post Oct 6 2006, 12:14 AM

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Sora, there are but have to search. I think xroxy also has it right? But you need to donate or contribute to them something before they let you in their forum. I used to proxy in my Utopia days biggrin.gif multi accounts... kekeke
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post Oct 6 2006, 12:24 AM

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maradona wat u mean?
if u want to use a proxy then yes you would have to change those options
once u r done downloading, it is advisable to turn off the proxy (dont need to change proxy and port)

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Yeah I noticed that problem as well, once I am on Proxy Mode, I SELDOM, very seldom see a Msian IP on my peer list >_<

Even when I was dl the latest Bleach (yeah lotsa Msian is downloading that), i get all my connection from US and Greece and those overseas places, and no Msian in sight >_<.

Yeah I'll see on no proxy mode later when i finish most of my files that got pure overseas peers. I need to sleep also, cant afford to keep on changing proxies every 3 hours while i sleep biggrin.gif


Dude, you know what I do ah? Use utorrent to download, use azureus to seed! cun idea or not thumbup.gif

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post Oct 6 2006, 12:35 AM

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Neslo and Sora, I can get good DL speeds from Korea and Japan. Occassionaly Vietnam and Phillipines too.

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i mean u mentioning changing proxies ,but what proxy 'number'should i change to,is that just random ip?


Diego, go to http://www.xroxy.com and choose a Proxy server. The IP address and port number is written there. Use those values. Also make sure you take note on HTTPS(SSL) and Anonymity.


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post Oct 6 2006, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(azmihamzah @ Oct 6 2006, 12:35 AM)
i just having this new theory about slow p2p thingy...

How about if TmNet does not has anything to do with it, BUT the throttling came from oversea's ISP which would be the reason why slow download from oversea's peers but good download speed from local peers...

it makes sense rite?
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Makes sense but I believe other users have confirmed that TMnet is using traffic shaping. Shaping would be done @ exchange if there were any.
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post Oct 19 2006, 03:34 PM

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Since throttling started I have tried reducing port range to those below 1024 as well. This does not work because throttling is done by looking at the 'pattern' of your incoming connections.

I have tried enabling all possible combinations of Tcp1323Opts but still no difference...
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post Nov 3 2006, 04:24 PM

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How about MANUAL PEER INJECTION? Someone with the time and resources create a forum. Forum existence only passed by word of mouth, eveyrtime a new torrent is uploaded, post it there and include your IP address and port. What say you all?
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