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post Sep 29 2006, 12:48 AM

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What about international newsgroups...i heard we can get downloads from newsgroups. But do you think Tmnet would have blocked them?
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post Sep 29 2006, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(asellus @ Sep 27 2006, 08:37 PM)
3 pages and everyone missed the most obvious solution for forumers here:-

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showforum=46
[Lowyat.Net DC++ Hub]
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QUOTE(littlefox @ Sep 28 2006, 11:02 PM)
In the meantime, why don't everyone use a client with a distributed peer system thingy like Azureus or something? With a large enough Malaysian userbase, we could have distribution without a tracker.

DPI and other advancd traffic shaping hardware principles are likely going to spread, so (optimistically) it's only a matter of time before the major BT clients implement some kind of workaround.
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the distributed peer system thingy supports on utorrent?

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yes.. DHT is supported on Utorrent..

but I don't think it's really that effective.

besides, i have to turn mine off since I download my torrents off private trackers anyway... sad.gif


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DHT doesn't really work against DPI.... Azureus has it & still gets screwed over
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post Sep 29 2006, 03:43 AM

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okay guys.. I have just installed DC++ using lowyat's hub, and am sharing some of my downloaded stuff on it.. approx 43 gigs of it..

Am currently trying to trickle stuff with my horrendous bt speeds from a private tracker, will gladly share more should anyone have the galls and cash to start a local bt tracker.

For the sake of keeping p2p alive.. i urge everyone with stuff to share to come join as well.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(vertigofoo @ Sep 29 2006, 03:43 AM)
okay guys.. I have just installed DC++ using lowyat's hub, and am sharing some of my downloaded stuff on it..  approx 43 gigs of it..

Am currently trying to trickle stuff with my horrendous bt speeds from a private tracker, will gladly share more should anyone have the galls and cash to start a local bt tracker.

For the sake of keeping p2p alive.. i urge everyone with stuff to share to come join as well.. smile.gif
It would cost alot for the multiple servers and of course including a good connection too.
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i dont know why we want to make a local tracker?... there are a bunch of public tracker out there.. local tracker does'n help the speed. Peers n seeders that will determine the speed.
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QUOTE(snowcrash @ Sep 29 2006, 03:29 AM)
DHT doesn't really work against DPI.... Azureus has it & still gets screwed over
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That's true but I'm not talking about using DHT to circumvent DPI. If enough people in Malaysia use a DHT-capable client like Azureus or utorrent (assuming their DHT implementations are compatible with each other), then we don't have to worry about setting up a local tracker to keep local peers communicating with each other. That way, at least any trickle that some local peers get for any particular file can be shared with the rest.
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on second thoughts
DC++ is quite a lame solution to our speed problems..

sighh..


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post Sep 29 2006, 01:19 PM

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Anyone wants to setup a massive 500 terabyte p2p cache server? XD

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Anyone knows what is I2P (Invisible Internet Project)?? This tools is create to bypass internet shaping or what?? Right now already available I2P plugin for azureus. but I dont know how to use it

Anyone?

Here's the link

\http://azureus.sourceforge.net/doc/AnonBT/i2p/I2P_howto.htm
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post Sep 29 2006, 02:10 PM

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Hmm...its just another encrytion plugin. From what i know, the DPI can inspect layers by layers of packets...crypted or not.

And both end got to have i2p installed. (The instructions, i read through but im too newbie to understand).

Its still experimental, so dont expect a flash solution.

I think its just one part of the cycle, where user and ISP fire and backfire each other. Now its the user turn and i think I2p is one of our shot.
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i think no ISP wants to jeopardise the quality of the bandwidth due to this so called 'bandwidth theifs' or p2p users. Their objective is to be effiecient and to be that means optimised bandwidth with lowest posibble cost.

That means capping individual bandwith. period.

But letme know if you found one!
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post Sep 29 2006, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(blackamikaze @ Sep 29 2006, 07:12 AM)
i dont know why we want to make a local tracker?... there are a bunch of public tracker out there.. local tracker does'n help the speed. Peers n seeders that will determine the speed.
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True. Seems to me that all we need is a dedicated file sharing forum which we can use to post links to files hosted by Malaysians using public trackers. As long as most of the seeds and peers are local, speeds should be normal.
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Ok...any links on putting up a local tracker?
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QUOTE(maranello55 @ Sep 29 2006, 04:00 PM)
Ok...any links on putting up a local tracker?
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Huh? No, what I said is just have a file sharing forum when people can post their stuff. We would still be using an overseas tracker, just posting links to files seeded by US. Since most of the trafiic would be between locals, speeds should still be at 100%.

We could even do it right here on LYN!
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post Sep 29 2006, 04:18 PM

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aiya malaysian wont help to seed..... they only leech thats the problem
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post Sep 29 2006, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(foogray @ Sep 29 2006, 04:17 PM)
We could even do it right here on LYN!
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You really think this'll go down well with the admins ? icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(socratesman @ Sep 29 2006, 08:44 PM)
You really think this'll go down well with the admins ?  icon_idea.gif
True but well, if you are going to post a link for a legal file then it should be alright but I see most users are downloading copyright materials which is suppose to be illegal.

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