QUOTE(wildkitten @ Sep 29 2017, 01:55 PM)
During prayer, we often see food or fruit or sometime together. I guess it's for the god/ghost to "eat". What about the flower? Is it for "smell"? 
Wear flowerThe Official Lowyat.NET Sintua Thread, A thread on Chinese folk religion.
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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Sep 28 2017, 07:20 PM) A less than ideal situation, although ancestral spirits can still keep going courtesy of the afterlife's welfare system. What about other cultures that do not practice offerings to the dead? Would they receive welfare too?They can receive offerings confiscated from other spirits who are deemed undeserving. |
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Have a lovely Mid-Autumn Festival, all.
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Oct 4 2017, 07:45 AM
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Happy Mid-Autumn Festival!
Wondering if Chang-er is real or just a legend? Have you come across any medium channeling Chang-er? |
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QUOTE(iamoracle @ Oct 4 2017, 07:45 AM) Happy Mid-Autumn Festival! When someone asks 'is such-and-such deity real or just a legend', my usual answer is 'that depends on whom you ask'.Wondering if Chang-er is real or just a legend? Have you come across any medium channeling Chang-er? Chinese folk religion does revere two stellar deities known as the Solar Lord and Lunar Lady, who are personifications of the sun and moon and regarded by some as analogous to Chang-Er and Hou-Yi. I have yet to see them possess mediums, however. ![]() |
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Oct 16 2017, 05:27 PM
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中國民間故事 第 5 集 代天巡狩池王爺
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Oct 20 2017, 06:30 PM
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hello nacht. i just discovered this site and it has been great reading. i would like to ask about the article which appeared today where there is a "djin buster" service where this practitioner claims he got rid of the djins from the kelantan family that kept getting their house burnt - what do you make of it? tks
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Oct 20 2017, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE(cainbane @ Oct 20 2017, 06:30 PM) hello nacht. i just discovered this site and it has been great reading. i would like to ask about the article which appeared today where there is a "djin buster" service where this practitioner claims he got rid of the djins from the kelantan family that kept getting their house burnt - what do you make of it? tks Djinns are powerful entities. I would not expect a human sorcerer to be able to deal with them unless he or she had powerful spiritual backers. |
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Oct 21 2017, 03:21 PM
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Down there, you are not allowed to own anything except food, basic clothes and a small amount of money.
Burning paper airplanes, cars, mobile phones, houses, servants and so on is totally meaningless and a waste of time. [/quote] i have quite some questions : 1. what is "money" used for down there? 2. babies or very young children who die - do they go through the same process of judgement? 3. when one dies, do they look the same as at the time they died? 4. in one of the pictures in earlier pages, depicting the dead being eaten by the serpents in the river what about if they were in a wheelchair or bedridden when they died - are they able to walk and the pain they had been suffering from is no longer felt? |
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Oct 21 2017, 11:56 PM
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QUOTE(cainbane @ Oct 21 2017, 03:21 PM) have quite some questions : 1. The money is primarily used to pay for one's accommodation. 1. what is "money" used for down there? 2. babies or very young children who die - do they go through the same process of judgement? 3. when one dies, do they look the same as at the time they died? 4. in one of the pictures in earlier pages, depicting the dead being eaten by the serpents in the river what about if they were in a wheelchair or bedridden when they died - are they able to walk and the pain they had been suffering from is no longer felt? 2. Those who die THAT prematurely will be taken to a special sanctuary to recover from their ordeal until they are ready; this usually means remaining there until they reach the age at which they were originally meant to reach before expiring naturally. Such an experience, being taken before your time so early, is highly traumatic, and only souls of a certain age are allowed to go through the standard processing. 3. By default, yes. But the art of protecting a residual self image can be perfected. 4. If you were crippled at the time of your death, you typically stay that way as a ghost, unless you can transcend that somehow. This can be achieved by someone performing salvation rituals for you, being healed by a deity, etc. |
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Oct 22 2017, 08:55 AM
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Oct 23 2017, 11:20 AM
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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Oct 21 2017, 11:56 PM) 1. The money is primarily used to pay for one's accommodation. I like the fact that you have an explanation to these, which makes it bit more believable and logical to my "agnostic" mind, on point number 2, does that mean that no babies or children are meant to die as a child and if they do it is due to unforseen circumstances?2. Those who die THAT prematurely will be taken to a special sanctuary to recover from their ordeal until they are ready; this usually means remaining there until they reach the age at which they were originally meant to reach before expiring naturally. Such an experience, being taken before your time so early, is highly traumatic, and only souls of a certain age are allowed to go through the standard processing. 3. By default, yes. But the art of protecting a residual self image can be perfected. 4. If you were crippled at the time of your death, you typically stay that way as a ghost, unless you can transcend that somehow. This can be achieved by someone performing salvation rituals for you, being healed by a deity, etc. Recently so many cases of abandoned babies or abused children that died... |
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I have a Guan Yin and Fuk Lou Sau at my home which are not consecrated before.
I am moving to a new house ... any advise on how to dispose them without angering them ? |
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QUOTE(audreyreiko @ Oct 23 2017, 11:20 AM) I like the fact that you have an explanation to these, which makes it bit more believable and logical to my "agnostic" mind, on point number 2, does that mean that no babies or children are meant to die as a child and if they do it is due to unforseen circumstances? Death at such a young age is NEVER normal. Recently so many cases of abandoned babies or abused children that died... Unexpected/unforseen circumstances are always to blame. |
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QUOTE(veron208 @ Oct 23 2017, 12:18 PM) I have a Guan Yin and Fuk Lou Sau at my home which are not consecrated before. The deities you have named are VERY even tempered and kind, although they should still be treated with respect despite their statues being unconsecrated. I am moving to a new house ... any advise on how to dispose them without angering them ? Approach your local temple or sintua and ask them if they provide 'sending off' services for discarded statues. The correct method of disposal is to burn them, but there are certain protocols involved and this is not something a lay worshipper can do on their own. |
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Came across a facebook post today with video, showing a sintua ceremony in KL for jiu huang yeh gone very wrong.
Apparently they were "steaming" the sifu in a big metal tong with fire underneath? (Can't tell based just on video and a video does not explain what is going on) - according to the caption the sifu has passed away due to the accident. Wonder if you know about this case @nacht Edit: Read up more of the comments in the thread, it seems the sifu had a heart attack during the middle of the ceremony, and when they carry him out of the steamer, a while later he passed away on the spot. This post has been edited by audreyreiko: Oct 24 2017, 10:54 AM |
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