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 The Official Lowyat.NET Sintua Thread, A thread on Chinese folk religion.

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post Sep 21 2017, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(Silfrijin @ Sep 21 2017, 10:21 AM)
In some local temples they do have The 3 Pure Ones, the manifestations from the Big Tao then they "manifested" the Supreme Jade Emperor, flanked by 4 high ranking assistants, then followed by the department of Thunder Lightning, Beings Salvation, etc. Followed by East Wood King and West Queen. So the lists go on...

Is that what the Taoists are preaching, or something of the sort?

That the San Qing manifested the Jade Emperor?

Folk religion states in no uncertain terms that he was a human disciple of Yuan Shi Tian Jun, the leader of the San Qing, who cultivated himself over a period of several millennia in order to attain sufficient worthiness for the role.

QUOTE(Silfrijin @ Sep 21 2017, 10:21 AM)
Kuan Yin resonates the compassionate energy and activities of the Immortals. There are male and female forms are people pray to.

My understanding is that Guan Yin doesn't have male or female forms; she is a woman through and through.

And it is Avalokitesvara, the genderless Bodhisattva from whom she originates, that has multiple forms both male and female.
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post Sep 21 2017, 08:46 PM

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Man .. so confusing, yet so enlightening. TQ, guys.
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post Sep 21 2017, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Sep 21 2017, 02:58 PM)
Is that what the Taoists are preaching, or something of the sort?

That the San Qing manifested the Jade Emperor?

Folk religion states in no uncertain terms that he was a human disciple of Yuan Shi Tian Jun, the leader of the San Qing, who cultivated himself over a period of several millennia in order to attain sufficient worthiness for the role.
My understanding is that Guan Yin doesn't have male or female forms; she is a woman through and through.

And it is Avalokitesvara, the genderless Bodhisattva from whom she originates, that has multiple forms both male and female.
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Yes, some sort. However Taoist in record generally states that Jade Emperor is the Tao Qi manifested by The 3 Pure Ones after a period of time. There is no replacement to this "role" as what some could say so.

There is another form and name as in Taoism, don't know how to translate here. In Tibetan Buddhism, Guan Yin is revered as Avalokitesvara, a Male form. So there could be a mixture of different stories and aspects to this Deity where the popularity is widely recognised by Mahayana schools.
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post Sep 22 2017, 03:32 PM

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post Sep 28 2017, 07:27 AM

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QUOTE(RobMC @ Sep 27 2017, 10:49 PM)
Anybody knows what this is? I guess it's Tibetan. I've seen people hanging this above the main door. Some people just put it on the altar.
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Tibetan Feng Shui. There is another form that combine Taoist methods with Tibetan methods, similar purpose. Deflecting evil negative energy and bringing or transforming into positive energy into house.
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post Sep 28 2017, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(RobMC @ Sep 28 2017, 09:42 AM)
Do you know what is its name?
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Which one ? The other is called Manjushri 9 Palace 8 Trigram.
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post Sep 28 2017, 12:14 PM

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QUOTE(RobMC @ Sep 27 2017, 10:49 PM)
Anybody knows what this is? I guess it's Tibetan. I've seen people hanging this above the main door. Some people just put it on the altar.
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Tibetan Buddhism is kinda outside the focus of this thread...
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post Sep 28 2017, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(RobMC @ Sep 28 2017, 12:21 PM)
I know. But I bet those who have what I posted up there will have Guan Yin, Tua Pek Kong, Guan Gong, Sheng Ong or others Taoist deities at home. You don't see usual Buddhist (except Tibetan Buddhist) have that.
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None of those are Taoist deities...
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post Sep 28 2017, 02:38 PM

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want to ask, what if the younger generations stop praying to their ancestors?
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post Sep 28 2017, 03:42 PM

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QUOTE(RobMC @ Sep 28 2017, 12:55 PM)
Whatever. Those are what typical chinese have.
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May I know what’s your definition of typical Chinese? Having those hanging on walls at home or being a believer of sintua will be considered as typical Chinese? I personally know and seen people from other races such as Indian and Malay praying and seeking guidances from sintua deities too so does that make them typical Chinese too?
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post Sep 28 2017, 03:58 PM

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QUOTE(RobMC @ Sep 28 2017, 03:45 PM)
Do Malays and Indians have tua pek gong at home?
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What I can reveal is that Indians who are believers of sintua do have statues of deities like Tua Pek Gong at home. smile.gif By the way, I’m still waiting for your definition of “typical” Chinese.
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post Sep 28 2017, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(RobMC @ Sep 28 2017, 04:05 PM)
What about Malay?
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Why don’t you give me the definition of “typical” Chinese first? wink.gif
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QUOTE(RobMC @ Sep 28 2017, 04:30 PM)
What about Malay that you claimed?
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I don’t really understand why can’t you answer a simple question of what’s your definition of “typical” Chinese when you stated that “typical” Chinese will have sintua statues at home and asked non-sintua related questions here. As stated by our thread starter here, this thread are for the discussion of sintua related questions only. If you have any other sintua related questions, feel free to drop by here again. smile.gif
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post Sep 28 2017, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(RobMC @ Sep 28 2017, 04:05 PM)
What about Malay?
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Sharia law forbids that.

But keramat worship and other forms of what is deemed 'idolatry' and 'heresy' still do occur on the sly.
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post Sep 28 2017, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(IMBeta305 @ Sep 28 2017, 02:38 PM)
want to ask, what if the younger generations stop praying to their ancestors?
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A less than ideal situation, although ancestral spirits can still keep going courtesy of the afterlife's welfare system.

They can receive offerings confiscated from other spirits who are deemed undeserving.
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post Sep 29 2017, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Sep 28 2017, 07:20 PM)
A less than ideal situation, although ancestral spirits can still keep going courtesy of the afterlife's welfare system.

They can receive offerings confiscated from other spirits who are deemed undeserving.
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Is there inflation in the afterworld considering the figures on the hell bank notes? LOL.
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post Sep 29 2017, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Sep 29 2017, 12:19 AM)
Is there inflation in the afterworld considering the figures on the hell bank notes? LOL.
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biggrin.gif would like to know to
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post Sep 29 2017, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(yeeck @ Sep 29 2017, 12:19 AM)
Is there inflation in the afterworld considering the figures on the hell bank notes? LOL.
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QUOTE(IMBeta305 @ Sep 29 2017, 08:15 AM)
biggrin.gif would like to know to
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The Hell bank notes originated from the desire among incense paper manufacturers to modernise old fashioned paper money.

The large figures reflect them accommodating devotees' desires to have their deceased loved ones prosper.

In actual fact, Hell bank notes are not universally regarded as legal tender by Hell deities.

The monetary value and denominations of currency on the other side are also closely regulated, down to every dollar and cent.

Inflation is therefore not an issue.
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post Sep 29 2017, 01:55 PM

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During prayer, we often see food or fruit or sometime together. I guess it's for the god/ghost to "eat". What about the flower? Is it for "smell"? smile.gif
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post Sep 29 2017, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(wildkitten @ Sep 29 2017, 01:55 PM)
During prayer, we often see food or fruit or sometime together. I guess it's for the god/ghost to "eat". What about the flower? Is it for "smell"? smile.gif
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They look pretty and smell fragrant.

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