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 The Official Lowyat.NET Sintua Thread, A thread on Chinese folk religion.

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post Jul 2 2015, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Jun 29 2015, 09:17 PM)
Deities who manifest during trances do refer to or otherwise acknowledge the San Qing; the talismans they issue often feature markings that represent this divine triumvirate (take a look at the one below - see the three tick symbols at the top).

I would regard their acknowledgement of the San Qing to be enough indication that (1) they exist and that (2) they were, indeed, responsible for what they are said to be responsible for.

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The information in this thread is a real eye-opener to me. Thanks so much for sharing with us.

Back to talismans, is there an expiry date attached to it? My mother always told me that it need to be "renewed" yearly i.e. seeking a fresh new one from deity yearly.

Please enlighten me. Thank you.
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post Jul 10 2015, 03:54 PM

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There are people with 3rd eye. Is there a possibility people with "3rd ear"? Sorry, I am not sure what is the correct term to use.
I have a personal experience where I heard something weird in the middle of the night but other occupants in the house didn't hear anything at all.
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post Dec 17 2015, 08:47 AM

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Any significant meaning if deity appear in the dream? Has anyone had that experience before?
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post Dec 17 2015, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Nov 11 2015, 10:35 AM)
Chinese folk religion is a largely oral tradition.

Its legends, ritual procedures and so on are handed down the generations via word of mouth for the most part; most of this knowledge is not stuff you can pick up from reading a book.

This means that if written scriptures or holy texts are what you are after, you are going to be quite disappointed.

So beyond what I've mentioned about her above, you aren't likely to find very much else, I'm afraid.

By the by, I've dug through my files and discovered that there are four temples in Malaysia where she is enshrined as the principal deity.

One is in Sabak Bernam - the Fo Guang Tang Di Mu Niang Niang Gong/佛光堂地母娘娘宫 at Lot 965-B, Jalan Sekendi, Batu 39, 45200 Sabak Bernam.

One more is in Ipoh - the Ipoh Di Mu Gong/怡保地母宫 at 2, Jalan Margosa, Taman Camay, 31650 Ipoh.

The last two are in Penang - the Nan Dao Fo Tang/南岛佛堂 at 140, Jalan Paya Terubong, 11060 Paya Terubong, and the Shan Din Di Mu Niang Niang/山顶地母娘娘 at 665, Jln Batu Perempuan, 11500 Air Itam.

I don't know if any of the Penang addresses corresponds to the temple you mentioned previously, or if one of them is the relocated premises of this place (you did mention that the temple has moved).

Whatever the case, feel free to drop by any of them.
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FYI, the temple located in Karak has been rebuilt and is back in operation.
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post Dec 19 2015, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(tension_fedup @ Dec 19 2015, 06:34 AM)
Any Heibaiwuchang deity temple at KL? Did u ever try ''hell journey" before?
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Check this out: http://www.white-sun.com/journeys_to_the_underworld.htm]Journeys to the Underworld[/URL]

I am not sure how true is the story. Ji Gong was instructed by Jade Emperor to bring a medium to tour the hell.

Some interesting facts from Wikipedia about the medium a.k.a the book author:

The author is a Taiwanese writer, Yang Zanru (simplified Chinese: 杨赞儒; traditional Chinese: 楊贊儒; pinyin: Yáng Zànrú; born 1951), who refers to himself as "Yangsheng" (simplified Chinese: 杨生; traditional Chinese: 楊生; pinyin: Yángshēng) in the book. He became a Buddhist monk in 1997 and adopted the Buddhist name "Shenglun" (simplified Chinese: 圣轮; traditional Chinese: 聖輪; pinyin: Shènglún). On 17 June 2013, a court in Taichung found Yang guilty of sexually assaulting female followers and sentenced him to 10 years imprisonment.[3]

Source

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post Apr 27 2016, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Apr 26 2016, 05:12 PM)
Wow, aren't you quite the mind-reader.  blink.gif

The throne was custom made to order, correct; I got my longtime prayer material supplier, Soon Poh Private Limited, to commission it.

They are Klang's premier prayer material emporium, located in the Jalan Nanas area, whose services I have used for more than a decade; the second pic is one of me with the boss, Mr Lim, who is practically an old friend by now.

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Nice throne. Did you come up with the design yourself? What are those deities carved on the chair legs?
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post Jun 13 2016, 03:02 PM

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One thing that always made me curious. In what circumstances does a deity usually accept a follower as godson or goddaughter? Are there any criteria that the follower has to meet before he/she is qualified to be a godson/goddaughter?

Kindly enlighten me. Thanks.

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post Aug 3 2016, 07:52 AM

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Nacht sifu, can you share with us the different categories/types of hungry ghost?

How to protect ourselves from being disturbed by hungry ghost during the 7th month?

Thanks.

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post Aug 10 2016, 10:05 AM

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Does Datuk Kong play any role in the Hungry Ghost festival?
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post Sep 21 2016, 09:08 AM

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Talking about Monkey King, reminds me of another character of the novel Journey to the West, Zhu Bajie.

According to Wikipedia, Zhu Bajie originally held the title of Tiānpéng Yuánshuài (天蓬元帅; lit. "Marshal Canopy"), commander-in-chief of 80,000 Heavenly Navy Soldiers. He was later banished, however, for misbehavior.

Is he being worshiped by people?
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post Oct 26 2016, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Oct 23 2016, 04:03 PM)
Once upon a time, there lived a cruel king called Miao Zhong.

He had three daughters.

The first two, Miao Yen and Miao Yin, were as black-hearted as their father.

The third, Miao Shan, was a virtuous and devout girl who wanted nothing more than to spiritually cultivate herself as a nun in Buddha's service and bring salvation to the needy.

Miao Zhong desired to marry off his daughters to three of the most influential lords in his court.

Miao Yen and Miao Yin conspired with their equally wicked husbands to depose their father and seize the throne.

Miao Shan's betrothed was the mighty general Wei Tuo, whom she grew up with as a longtime childhood friend.

Wei Tuo knew that Miao Shan could not marry him due to her spiritual goals; he promised to instead love her as a brother would, and protect her from her father's wrath.

When Miao Zhong came to know of Miao Shan's refusal to marry in favour of becoming a nun, he was furious and disowned her, banishing her from the palace.

Wei Tuo he retained only because the general was too valuable to him; his punishment would come soon enough.

Miao Shan joined a Buddhist convent and became its most pious and compassionate nun, renowned for how dutifully she tended to the sick and the poor.

She began to work miracles of all kinds, and the convent became renowned throughout the kingdom, causing Miao Zhong to become all the more angry.

He ordered Wei Tuo to burn the convent to the ground and massacre its inhabitants; this would be the general's punishment.

Wei Tuo was clever; he spirited Miao Shan and the other nuns to safety before destroying the convent and telling Miao Zhong that everyone within had died.

Miao Shan and her fellow nuns hid out in the forest and eked out a peaceful life, aided by the forest creatures.

In the meantime, Miao Zhong came down with a terrible illness that left him bedridden and close to death.

The only cure for this illness was medicine that had to be made from the eyes and hands of a blood relative.

He begged Miao Yen and Miao Yin to assist him in this regard, but the two princesses and their husbands responded by throwing him into the dungeon to rot and declaring themselves the new rulers of the kingdom.

Wei Tuo marshaled the palace guards and managed to put down the rebellion; the princesses and their consorts were placed under arrest.

He brought Miao Zhong the required medicine, which cured him almost instantly, and solemnly asked the king to contemplate just how it was possible for the medicine to have been made.

Who, asked Wei Tuo, could have contributed their eyes and hands to make the medicine, considering that Miao Zhong had no living blood relatives apart from his three daughters, two of whom had left him to perish?

With a shock, Miao Zhong realised that Miao Shan was not dead, and that SHE had used her eyes and hands to save his life.

Miao Shan's spirit of forgiveness and self-sacrifice left Miao Zhong, Miao Yen, Miao Yin and the princesses' husbands utterly ashamed.

They tearfully declared how wrong they had been, promising to embrace the path of Buddhism and turn over a new leaf.

The kingdom thus entered a new age of peace and harmony.

As a result of their good deeds, Miao Shan and Wei Tuo became Bodhisattvas.

She is now known as Guan Yin, 'She Who Hears the Cries of the Needy'.

And he is now known as Skanda, Protector of the Dharma and guardian of Buddhist temples everywhere against evil influences.

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I was told GuanYin followers are prohibited/advised to avoid consuming beef because out of respect to her father who was reincarnated as a cow in his next life. Is it true? What is the real reason behind it?
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post Nov 14 2016, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Nov 13 2016, 12:41 AM)
Incense burns and halal offerings sit before a Datuk shrine.
Why are special white candles used beside the red ones for Datuk gong prayer?

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Nov 14 2016, 07:13 PM)
Hello Putra,

The statue outside the shrine is the original Datuk statue, which has been replaced by the new one currently sitting inside.

Red is the standard colour that retailers provide, although this can of course be altered to whatever colour the Datuk within may desire.

Green is the Islamic colour, of course, while yellow is the colour of Malay royalty.

You should never be in close proximity with a Datuk shrine if you have consumed non Halal food or drink.

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Over the last weekend, I dined at a Chinese restaurant selling non-halal foods and drinks and I noticed there was a Datuk Kong shrine installed right at the entrance to the restaurant.
The owner must have received the wrong advice on the placement of the shrine. However, the restaurant was having a roaring business. Fully packed and there was a long wait for tables.

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post Nov 28 2016, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Nov 25 2016, 08:15 PM)
Friday night - the best time of the week.

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Will the medium feel the effects of alcohol e.g. drunk, after the deity "left"?
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post Jan 3 2017, 11:34 AM

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From your photos, some deities statue were placed at top position and some at the lower position.

What are the criteria used to decide the positioning of the deities statue among many of them?

Kindly enlighten me. Thanks.

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post Feb 20 2017, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Feb 20 2017, 08:22 AM)
Curiosity, I would say.

Which, as you know, killed the cat.
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What about those people who came back to life after being pronounced dead? There are stories about these people who saw things in the underworld during their short "stay" there.
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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Mar 28 2017, 02:36 AM)
It really depends on whom the house god is.

Not all gods are beings who strike fear into the hearts of ghosts.
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I have a question and hope you can enlighten me.

Why do followers pray to the deity at home and still take the initiative to go to the temple to pray to the same deity? Are there any difference between praying at home and praying at temple?

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Referring to your last photo above, is it proper to use cigarette in place of joss sticks when unavailable?
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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Apr 25 2017, 08:03 AM)
Not proper.

The cigarette is there because Tua Li Ya Pek like to smoke.
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No wonder.

BTW, I noticed during big celebrations such as deity's birthday, devotees will light up giant joss sticks.

Besides the size, any differences between a giant joss stick and a regular sized joss stick that they will make to the prayer?

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What is the name of the deity in the middle and on the right side of the photo? This photo was taken at 南天宫 in Sekinchan.
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