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post Feb 26 2015, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Feb 26 2015, 10:32 AM)
hmm.gif you know what to do right?

if you have already purchased previously and gotten 0.8%, means ok di. you don't need to tell FSM which particular fund you want to buy. it will be reflected when you purchase. if really not, then call them immediately or something. it's all stated in the email...
Done. They responded to my email. Ive just completed my transaction for Aberdeen. Fingers crossed for the future!

Btw, Kenanga Growth Fund just declared the highest dividend since 2012. Not bad huh? biggrin.gif

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post Feb 26 2015, 10:41 AM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Feb 26 2015, 09:26 AM)
i think you need to know how IRR is calculated. these people know and they are just mentioning those IRR numbers for fun. IRR is only good measure for investment >1 year IMO. or at least over a long enough period.

they probably invested 2 weeks to get those numbers.

actual return is very much less.
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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Feb 26 2015, 10:04 AM)
yeah Sis.
Some folks are newbies (ok lar) OR wood (literal translation from "kayu") that they can't tell a friendly banter/joke from genuine competition or discussion.  laugh.gif
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laugh.gif power of IRR calculation laugh.gif
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post Feb 26 2015, 11:33 AM

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KGF declared income distribution which results in the initial drop in the unit trust's net asset value (NAV)

RM 0.0948 per unit..
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post Feb 26 2015, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(adele123 @ Feb 26 2015, 09:26 AM)
i think you need to know how IRR is calculated. these people know and they are just mentioning those IRR numbers for fun. IRR is only good measure for investment >1 year IMO. or at least over a long enough period.

they probably invested 2 weeks to get those numbers.

actual return is very much less.
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They are being kind of evil then lol.
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post Feb 26 2015, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(cybermaster98 @ Feb 26 2015, 10:38 AM)
Done. They responded to my email. Ive just completed my transaction for Aberdeen. Fingers crossed for the future!

Btw, Kenanga Growth Fund just declared the highest dividend since 2012. Not bad huh?  biggrin.gif
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Fingers crossed for the future smile.gif
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post Feb 26 2015, 11:44 AM

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a very quick and simple ques

the profit displayed in the FSM website, is it before or after the 1%/2% deduction ?

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post Feb 26 2015, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(PhilHellmuth @ Feb 26 2015, 11:44 AM)
a very quick and simple ques

the profit displayed in the FSM website, is it before or after the 1%/2% deduction ?

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after!
when u buy a fund, it will always be -2% if normal SC
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post Feb 26 2015, 11:48 AM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Feb 26 2015, 11:46 AM)
after!
when u buy a fund, it will always be -2% if normal SC
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after .... nice

so what im seeing there are already net profit icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(PhilHellmuth @ Feb 26 2015, 11:48 AM)
after .... nice

so what im seeing there are already net profit  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
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yeap.. laugh.gif 7% means 9% gain after -2% SC

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post Feb 26 2015, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Feb 26 2015, 11:58 AM)
yeap..  laugh.gif  7% means 9% gain after -2% SC
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Simplified yes correct, but mathematically wrong tongue.gif

Assuming your 7% gain is ROI - means that if I invest RM1000, I get RM70 profit = 7% ROI.

Sample --> Sales charge at 2%
Purchase NAV Price = RM1.00 per units. Total units held = 980.39 (after deducting 2% SC). Valued at RM980.39.
Current NAV Price = RM1.0914 per units. Total units held = 980.39. Valued at RM1,070.00.

Profit = RM70.00. ROI = 7%.

However, if we were to assume there was NO SALES CHARGE with the purchase of the same fund, with the same unit price increments....

Sample 2 ---> Sales charge at 0%
Purchase NAV Price = RM1.00 per units. Total units held = 1000.00 (no SC). Valued at RM1,000.00.
Current NAV Price = RM1.0914 per units. Total units held = 1000.00. Valued at RM1,091.40 .

Profit = RM91.40. ROI = 9.14%.


So I don't think you can directly +2% on your nett ROI.

And then again, there's no logic to deduct out the SC and include it as your gain because it is not your gain to begin with. It's a "fee / additional surcharges" incurred for investing. My point being, they've already calculated the nett profit for you, why you want to convert it back to "gross profit" again?

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QUOTE(polarzbearz @ Feb 26 2015, 12:11 PM)
Simplified yes correct, but mathematically wrong tongue.gif

Assuming your 7% gain is ROI - means that if I invest RM1000, I get RM70 profit = 7% ROI.

Sample --> Sales charge at 2%
Purchase NAV Price = RM1.00 per units. Total units held = 980.39 (after deducting 2% SC). Valued at RM980.39.
Current NAV Price =  RM1.0914 per units. Total units held = 980.39. Valued at  RM1,070.00.

Profit = RM70.00. ROI = 7%.

However, if we were to assume there was NO SALES CHARGE with the purchase of the same fund, with the same unit price increments....

Sample 2 ---> Sales charge at 0%
Purchase NAV Price = RM1.00 per units. Total units held = 1000.00 (no SC). Valued at RM1,000.00.
Current NAV Price =  RM1.0914 per units. Total units held = 1000.00. Valued at  RM1,091.40 .

Profit =  RM91.40. ROI = 9.14%.
So I don't think you can directly +2% on your nett ROI.

And then again, there's no logic to deduct out the SC and include it as your gain because it is not your gain to begin with. It's a "fee / additional surcharges" incurred for investing. My point being, they've already calculated the nett profit for you, why you want to convert it back to "gross profit" again?
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cause kan.. if u get like 0.57% SC you feel better maa.. more money invested


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hmm.gif 1 more day to make use of the 0.8%.....
hmm.gif what to buy?
hmm.gif i don't have exposure in BRI
hmm.gif should i go into RHB OSK GS BRIC EQ fund?
hmm.gif Thinking of putting 3% of portfolio into it.
hmm.gif But 44% of this 3% will be in China....
hmm.gif Any fund that is heavy on BRI?
hmm.gif EI GEM has lesser in BRI than GS BRIC.
hmm.gif let me go get a coin. rclxub.gif
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post Feb 26 2015, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Feb 26 2015, 02:15 PM)
hmm.gif 1 more day to make use of the 0.8%.....
hmm.gif  what to buy?
hmm.gif i don't have exposure in BRI
hmm.gif should i go into RHB OSK GS BRIC EQ fund?
hmm.gif Thinking of putting 3% of portfolio into it.
hmm.gif But 44% of this 3% will be in China....
hmm.gif Any fund that is heavy on BRI?
hmm.gif EI GEM has lesser in BRI than GS BRIC.
hmm.gif  let me go get a coin.  rclxub.gif
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unker... why BRI... why not just I?

for those interested in the "I"... something i found to share it outhttps://www.jpmorganmf.com/GTMA/MI-WP_ModiH...moon_201501.pdf

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post Feb 26 2015, 02:42 PM

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ok.. today bought into Ponzi 2.0 using Ang Paw money
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Feb 26 2015, 10:30 AM)
Latest issue of The Economist...
India so strong meh  hmm.gif

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low oil price is good for the country..

today paper told the modi gomen is using the subsidy saving (because of low oil price) to build up infrastructure & others things like china did few years back thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 26 2015, 03:29 PM)
low oil price is good for the country..

today paper told the modi gomen is using the subsidy saving (because of low oil price) to build up infrastructure  & others things like china did few years back thumbup.gif
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Be careful though... In India, local governments are very powerful. They may obstruct New Delhi's infrastructure projects.
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Feb 26 2015, 03:32 PM)
Be careful though... In India, local governments are very powerful. They may obstruct New Delhi's infrastructure projects.
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u mean State Gomen? I tot Modi party control most of the state hmm.gif
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Feb 26 2015, 03:45 PM)
u mean State Gomen? I tot Modi party control most of the state  hmm.gif
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Well, in that case, things look brighter thumbup.gif
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post Feb 26 2015, 04:00 PM

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QUOTE(woonsc @ Feb 26 2015, 12:43 PM)
cause kan.. if u get like 0.57% SC you feel better maa.. more money invested
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But it's not the case right? So no point converting the nett ROI back into Gross ROI tongue.gif
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wah! Everybody working hour also so active in this lowyat!!

I envy you guys!!!

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