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post Feb 6 2015, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(nicky87 @ Feb 6 2015, 12:39 AM)
Wow that is two very different opinions! I can relate to the feeling of removing teeth... I was very happy to know I didn't need to remove that many teeth! But I guess sometimes if your teeth are really crowded then it becomes a necessity to remove teeth. If you are not comfortable with both opinions then I think you should make time for a third opinion.
Uh when I did my research about 1 year ago, traditional braces was about rm5-6k, self ligating was about rm6-9k, lingual was about rm15k and Invisalign was about rm20k. The higher end of the range was usually for the ceramic versions

Can't help you with the number 2 cause I was looking for one in KL. Point to note since I was looking in KL my price range could be higher than say a clinic in klang... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(shepherddream @ Feb 6 2015, 09:39 AM)
recently i ask traditional around 5k++, damon around 8k++. they are going to put braces for me next week (can't wait for it)
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wow i guess price had increased since sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Feb 6 2015, 04:59 PM

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Day 1. cleaning teeth, Xray & Mold (upper and lower) - RM390
Day 2. extract 1 teeth & put rubber spacer for back teeth - RM400
Day 3. extract 2 teeth & put metal braket for lower back teeth - RM700 (including RM500 deposit)

so far i have done the following and have paid total RM1490 for all these. I have not yet have my braces on, next week will put damon braces it cost me 7k. The 2nd appointment which cost RM400 make me wondering what they charged, when i ask the nurse said RM300 is for the rubber spacer. i thought it is included in braces cost....

May i know is the price reasonable?

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post Feb 6 2015, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(shepherddream @ Feb 6 2015, 04:59 PM)
Day 1. cleaning teeth, Xray & Mold (upper and lower) - RM390
Day 2. extract 1 teeth & put rubber spacer for back teeth - RM400
Day 3. extract 2 teeth & put metal braket for lower back teeth - RM700 (including RM500 deposit)

so far i have done the following and have paid total RM1490 for all these. I have not yet have my braces on, next week will put damon braces it cost me 7k. The 2nd appointment which cost RM400 make me wondering what they charged, when i ask the nurse said RM300 is for the rubber spacer. i thought it is included in braces cost....

May i know is the price reasonable?
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I think you better get a breakdown for the RM 7,000.00 . Or else they will simply charge you. Haha, you better ask them whether this RM 7k include the de-bonding. Mine damon cost me RM 6,800.00 3 year back, and it does not include the de-bonding cost. (the Rm 7K should exclude those extraction of teeth)

I thought normally the doctor will ask the patient to pay like RM 2,000.00 first, then subsequently when you visit the doctor you can pay it by instalment. Not this???
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post Feb 7 2015, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(hjh87 @ Feb 6 2015, 11:14 PM)
I think you better get a breakdown for the RM 7,000.00 . Or else they will simply charge you. Haha, you better ask them whether this RM 7k include the de-bonding. Mine damon cost me RM 6,800.00 3 year back, and it does not include the de-bonding cost. (the Rm 7K should exclude those extraction of teeth)

I thought normally the doctor will ask the patient to pay like RM 2,000.00 first, then subsequently when you visit the doctor you can pay it by instalment. Not this???
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They ask me pay half 3.5k first. But i not yet do braces already spend RM1490. maybe i should ask the dentist next appointment as they didn't give me consultation at all, no chance for me to talk just straight extract teeth liao

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post Feb 7 2015, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Feb 3 2015, 04:26 PM)
Actually, the only thing I worry is.... Those are good teeth, if they remove it, will it have any impact in the future or not. Cause usually people have like standard number of teeth... Removing those are like..... stabbing knife to myself....haha

I have gone through the bad days during wisdom teeth removal and suffer nerves numb for 4 months. I don't have issue in removing the 4 teeth. I just worry those are good teeth.. Maybe someone can enlighten me or educate me in regards on these good teeth removal? Thanks. notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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From what I know, you have the right to insist of not extracting the teeth for braces. But the doctor will tell you that, he/she will try the best to make your teeth aligned and in the future if your teeth is realigned or out of shape then you can't blame them for that.

QUOTE(shepherddream @ Feb 7 2015, 11:30 AM)
They ask me pay half 3.5k first. But i not yet do braces already spend RM1490. maybe i should ask the dentist next appointment as they didn't give me consultation at all, no chance for me to talk just straight extract teeth liao
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What clinic is that. No consultation? The first day after your x ray session , the doctor did not explain or review the mold to you. That odd, no sign any agreement?

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post Feb 7 2015, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(hjh87 @ Feb 7 2015, 12:27 PM)
From what I know, you have the right to insist of not extracting the teeth for braces. But the doctor will tell you that, he/she will try the best to make your teeth aligned and in the future if your teeth is realigned or out of shape then you can't blame them for that.
What clinic is that. No consultation? The first day after your x ray session , the doctor did not explain or review the mold to you. That odd, no sign any agreement?
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need sign agreement? they review the mold but did not explain clearly. just said will extract 3 teeth. the dentist clinic always full of crowd, so did not explain tat much
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post Feb 7 2015, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(shepherddream @ Feb 7 2015, 02:03 PM)
need sign agreement? they review the mold but did not explain clearly. just said will extract 3 teeth. the dentist clinic always full of crowd, so did not explain tat much
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When I did mine, I did sign some agreement. How about other, do you guy sign any agreement while doing the braces??
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post Feb 7 2015, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(shepherddream @ Feb 6 2015, 04:59 PM)
Day 1. cleaning teeth, Xray & Mold (upper and lower) - RM390
Day 2. extract 1 teeth & put rubber spacer for back teeth - RM400
Day 3. extract 2 teeth & put metal braket for lower back teeth - RM700 (including RM500 deposit)

so far i have done the following and have paid total RM1490 for all these. I have not yet have my braces on, next week will put damon braces it cost me 7k. The 2nd appointment which cost RM400 make me wondering what they charged, when i ask the nurse said RM300 is for the rubber spacer. i thought it is included in braces cost....

May i know is the price reasonable?
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I think you should ask the dentist for a detailed breakdown and all the extra costs which he will/might charge... And ask if there are charges for breakages while you are at it... I certainly did not pay for spacers... Let alone rm300 for it x.x

QUOTE(hjh87 @ Feb 7 2015, 02:49 PM)
When I did mine, I did sign some agreement. How about other, do you guy sign any agreement while doing the braces??
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I didn't sign any agreement though... sweat.gif
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post Feb 9 2015, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(nicky87 @ Feb 7 2015, 06:30 PM)
I think you should ask the dentist for a detailed breakdown and all the extra costs which he will/might charge... And ask if there are charges for breakages while you are at it... I certainly did not pay for spacers... Let alone rm300 for it x.x
I didn't sign any agreement though... sweat.gif
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Actually Day 3 when they extracting another 2 teeth, they actually do mold again for upper teeth. i dunno whether the mould charge, but also can't be 300 bah. Ya i doubt for the extra 300 i paid in Day 2. i will try ask the dentist
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post Feb 11 2015, 05:18 PM

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today ask them, they said 300 is one of the deposit also. now officially put on damon braces with arch bar at upper jaw. but due to my lower teeth keep bite the metal arch, they put two "hard cream" on lower teeth molar, which make me hard to chew food. this CNY no need eat already....
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post Feb 11 2015, 05:32 PM

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Any recommendation of dentist around Mahkota Cheras / Sri Petaling area that opens in the weekend?
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post Mar 3 2015, 11:58 AM

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I'm going to have my teeth bracer installed next Monday. Yesterday I went to see dentist, and she explained to me about my situation now after the x-ray, and show me the estimated result through simulation.

1) I do not need to remove any tooth at this moment as there is gap everywhere between teeth, but she will monitor for 6 months first, and ask my opinion whether I am fine with the result or not. If not, then she will remove the wire and take out 4 teeth. But I saw the result before and after removing 4 teeth... Is really significant. It really make my mouth area push back.

2) Right now my teeth has separator in it. And it seems like she will use molar bands method to pull my teeth. She will choose the last teeth instead of second last is because she will need to have all tooth in position first.

3) She also explained to me that she might need to apply teeth bone nail after four teeth have been removed as simulation shows that my lower teeth will only show half of them if I smile, but she said is depend on me whether I'm perfectionist or not.

4) She always said after 2 years of bracer, she will apply some other thing such as cut the meat border around the teeth to make all of them to have even looking, also some of my teeth are in pointing shape, and she also said she will grind it to make all of them even.

She is patience in explaining everything to me.

So I only left a week for me to "spam" eating whatever things I want.... Definitely my first food is RAMLI BURGER!!!

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post Mar 4 2015, 09:33 AM

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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Mar 3 2015, 11:58 AM)
I'm going to have my teeth bracer installed next Monday. Yesterday I went to see dentist, and she explained to me about my situation now after the x-ray, and show me the estimated result through simulation.

1) I do not need to remove any tooth at this moment as there is gap everywhere between teeth, but she will monitor for 6 months first, and ask my opinion whether I am fine with the result or not. If not, then she will remove the wire and take out 4 teeth. But I saw the result before and after removing 4 teeth... Is really significant. It really make my mouth area push back.

2) Right now my teeth has separator in it. And it seems like she will use molar bands method to pull my teeth. She will choose the last teeth instead of second last is because she will need to have all tooth in position first.

3) She also explained to me that she might need to apply teeth bone nail after four teeth have been removed as simulation shows that my lower teeth will only show half of them if I smile, but she said is depend on me whether I'm perfectionist or not.

4) She always said after 2 years of bracer, she will apply some other thing such as cut the meat border around the teeth to make all of them to have even looking, also some of my teeth are in pointing shape, and she also said she will grind it to make all of them even.

She is patience in explaining everything to me.

So I only left a week for me to "spam" eating whatever things I want.... Definitely my first food is RAMLI BURGER!!!
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ur dentist explain well and detail to u. my dentist didn't tell me anything nor about estimation of the braces period. about the teeth bone nail to correct the teeth gum and grinding teeth, i wonder will it affect teeth health or not. yap separator is to put molar bands. what type of braces u plan to put?

i just have my damon braces last month b4 cny, i did not have tighten feel at all since the first day until now. but cannot chewing food by front teeth, it will give strange weaken feeling
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post Mar 5 2015, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Mar 3 2015, 11:58 AM)
I'm going to have my teeth bracer installed next Monday. Yesterday I went to see dentist, and she explained to me about my situation now after the x-ray, and show me the estimated result through simulation.

1) I do not need to remove any tooth at this moment as there is gap everywhere between teeth, but she will monitor for 6 months first, and ask my opinion whether I am fine with the result or not. If not, then she will remove the wire and take out 4 teeth. But I saw the result before and after removing 4 teeth... Is really significant. It really make my mouth area push back.

2) Right now my teeth has separator in it. And it seems like she will use molar bands method to pull my teeth. She will choose the last teeth instead of second last is because she will need to have all tooth in position first.

3) She also explained to me that she might need to apply teeth bone nail after four teeth have been removed as simulation shows that my lower teeth will only show half of them if I smile, but she said is depend on me whether I'm perfectionist or not.

4) She always said after 2 years of bracer, she will apply some other thing such as cut the meat border around the teeth to make all of them to have even looking, also some of my teeth are in pointing shape, and she also said she will grind it to make all of them even.

She is patience in explaining everything to me.

So I only left a week for me to "spam" eating whatever things I want.... Definitely my first food is RAMLI BURGER!!!
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Glad that you found a good dentist.Mind share where did you do your braces ?

I wanted to do braces as well and i like invisalign being invisible , but the cost is cry.gif
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post Mar 5 2015, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(devil94 @ Mar 5 2015, 06:10 PM)
Glad that you found a good dentist.Mind share where did you do your braces ?

I wanted to do braces as well and i like invisalign being invisible , but the cost is  cry.gif
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It's located in Johor Bahru Mount Austin Area. Unless you stay in JB. Or else you are not sure where it is. Hehe
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QUOTE(Jet23sky @ Mar 5 2015, 08:40 PM)
It's located in Johor Bahru Mount Austin Area. Unless you stay in JB. Or else you are not sure where it is. Hehe
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Wooops JB is too far tongue.gif I'm at KL biggrin.gif
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post Mar 6 2015, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(shepherddream @ Mar 4 2015, 09:33 AM)
ur dentist explain well and detail to u. my dentist didn't tell me anything nor about estimation of the braces period. about the teeth bone nail to correct the teeth gum and grinding teeth, i wonder will it affect teeth health or not. yap separator is to put molar bands. what type of braces u plan to put?

i just have my damon braces last month b4 cny, i did not have tighten feel at all since the first day until now. but cannot chewing food by front teeth, it will give strange weaken feeling
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Don't worry the ability to chew with your front teeth will come back after a couple of months smile.gif don't remember how long exactly it took but I did eventually go back to biting into hamburgers and sandwiches XD
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post Mar 6 2015, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(nicky87 @ Mar 6 2015, 12:36 AM)
Don't worry the ability to chew with your front teeth will come back after a couple of months smile.gif don't remember how long exactly it took but I did eventually go back to biting into hamburgers and sandwiches XD
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yap i miss hamburgers and the feel of tearing drumstick meat. hehe. between dentist put 2 biji of cement on my lower molar teeth to prevent lower bite upper, as my upper jaw install a nance appliance (worry it drop down after bite kena it). however i experiance a headache problem, which i grind teeth while sleeping everyday, the cement very fast to drop off when i grind teeth. can't even tahan for 1 month at all. it seem i grind teeth more often after put on braces. anyone experiance it?
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Have anyone been doing braces at Tey & Khaw dental clinic in Kota Damansara?
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QUOTE(yuen421 @ Mar 6 2015, 06:38 PM)
Have anyone been doing braces at Tey & Khaw dental clinic in Kota Damansara?
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I didn't know they have an orthodontist there... must be new....

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