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TenNix
post May 29 2016, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(kutitata @ May 29 2016, 11:07 PM)
So what speakers would you pair with PM8005 based on the 66% : 33% split?
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I assume you're asking me. I started looking at ELAC B6 before finding a suitable amp to power it, but many says its inefficient and requires more power (hence more money for amp), that brought PM8005 in mind (with the relatively cheap price here in UK).
Else I would just get the PM6005 and look elsewhere for more efficient speaker (can increase budget for speaker then).
Will go to RicherSounds some time next week to have a look.

Actually the PM6005 is also cheap here at RM1.4k, but the indicated price for the coming PM6006 is RM2.4k (closer to M'sia PM6005 price). Maybe they are clearing to make way for new models.

As I can't find any hifi shop here that carries both Marantz amp and ELAC speaker, it would be tough to decide even if I pay the shop a visit. Though general consensus is bigger, more powerful, more expensive = better. The closest competitor to the B6 in that shop is Dali Zensor 3.

Any tips for demoing amps?
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post May 30 2016, 10:14 AM

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QUOTE(gme @ May 29 2016, 04:33 AM)
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upgraded from Marantz sr6006...although not yet connect  height speaker,sound quality better than sr6006 thumbup.gif
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imho this not an upgrade,its replacement,sr7010 will consider upgrade biggrin.gif
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post May 30 2016, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(bad2928 @ May 30 2016, 10:14 AM)
imho this not an upgrade,its replacement,sr7010 will consider upgrade biggrin.gif
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Missing SR7xxx series owner in this thread.... biggrin.gif

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post May 30 2016, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(TenNix @ May 29 2016, 11:37 PM)
I assume you're asking me. I started looking at ELAC B6 before finding a suitable amp to power it, but many says its inefficient and requires more power (hence more money for amp), that brought PM8005 in mind (with the relatively cheap price here in UK).
Else I would just get the PM6005 and look elsewhere for more efficient speaker (can increase budget for speaker then).
Will go to RicherSounds some time next week to have a look.

Actually the PM6005 is also cheap here at RM1.4k, but the indicated price for the coming PM6006 is RM2.4k (closer to M'sia PM6005 price). Maybe they are clearing to make way for new models.

As I can't find any hifi shop here that carries both Marantz amp and ELAC speaker, it would be tough to decide even if I pay the shop a visit. Though general consensus is bigger, more powerful, more expensive = better. The closest competitor to the B6 in that shop is Dali Zensor 3.

Any tips for demoing amps?
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pm6005 wont be weak. i have experience only with old pm7001, wired for biamp (power split to half) to 2.5 way floorstand, plenty of power just 40% on volume knob.

QUOTE(bad2928 @ May 30 2016, 10:14 AM)
imho this not an upgrade,its replacement,sr7010 will consider upgrade biggrin.gif
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post May 30 2016, 01:11 PM

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QUOTE(ktek @ May 30 2016, 12:32 PM)

rich man spotted brows.gif
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sweat.gif not rich la,saving up for the best to avoid further upgrade biggrin.gif
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post May 31 2016, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(bad2928 @ May 30 2016, 01:11 PM)
sweat.gif  not rich la,saving up for the best to avoid further upgrade biggrin.gif
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To avoid further upgrade? biggrin.gif whistling.gif laugh.gif brows.gif
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post Jun 1 2016, 04:54 AM

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QUOTE(bad2928 @ May 30 2016, 10:14 AM)
imho this not an upgrade,its replacement,sr7010 will consider upgrade biggrin.gif
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ooo...replacement pun replacement la....no problem...
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post Jun 1 2016, 06:02 AM

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QUOTE(TenNix @ May 28 2016, 12:58 AM)
I'm in accounting though  laugh.gif

But it seems the 50:50 amp speaker spending doesn't rly holds in practice. more like 66% amp 33% speaker based on what I've read so far.

Back to the UK8005 vs MY6005 dilemma.
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What I read on the other hand is to spend more on the speakers, not the amp or cables...a bit confused confused.gif
Anyway, either way those are just general rule of thumb. It should satisfy one and only one ultimate criterion. That's to sound good to your ears. When it melts you / feel the skin orgasm then you've found it...

On the other hand, I translated a Japanese site reviewing PM6006. States that the peak current is improved by 42%. I guess this means more "attack"?
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post Jun 1 2016, 06:22 AM

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QUOTE(everclear @ Jun 1 2016, 06:02 AM)
What I read on the other hand is to spend more on the speakers, not the amp or cables...a bit confused  confused.gif
Anyway, either way those are just general rule of thumb. It should satisfy one and only one ultimate criterion. That's to sound good to your ears. When it melts you / feel the skin orgasm then you've found it...

On the other hand, I translated a Japanese site reviewing PM6006. States that the peak current is improved by 42%. I guess this means more "attack"?
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Will go for demo tomorrow.
1) get PM6005 here, speaker options: BW 685 S2, KEF Q300, ELAC B6
2) get PM8005 here, speaker option pretty much limited to ELAC B6 unless I lose control bruce.gif

So far I can't find reason for PM6006, do or die lol.
Discounted PM6005: RM1.4k
Coming PM6006: RM2.4k
Discounted PM8005: RM3.5k
Converted UK price.

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post Jun 1 2016, 06:59 AM

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QUOTE(TenNix @ Jun 1 2016, 06:22 AM)
Will go for demo tomorrow.
1) get PM6005 here, speaker options: BW 685 S2, KEF Q300, ELAC B6
2) get PM8005 here, speaker option pretty much limited to ELAC B6 unless I lose control  bruce.gif

So far I can't find reason for PM6006, do or die lol.
Discounted PM6005: RM1.4k
Coming PM6006: RM2.4k
Discounted PM8005: RM3.5k
Converted UK price.
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Should go for B&W. You won't regret
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post Jun 1 2016, 07:01 AM

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QUOTE(sonerin @ Jun 1 2016, 06:59 AM)
Should go for B&W. You won't regret
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Yeah 6005+685S2 is my first choice now.
Even if the UK PM6005 have any problem in future, no need headache as its not as costly. Maybe can take it as an opportunity to upgrade heh.
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post Jun 1 2016, 07:08 AM

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QUOTE(TenNix @ Jun 1 2016, 07:01 AM)
Yeah 6005+685S2 is my first choice now.
Even if the UK PM6005 have any problem in future, no need headache as its not as costly. Maybe can take it as an opportunity to upgrade heh.
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Good choice
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post Jun 1 2016, 09:42 PM

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Went to demo the PM6005 + KEF Q300, harsh, bright, thin is all I can say. Power wise it is pretty good.
They didn't have PM8005 in stock, so I requested the Q300 to be paired with Cambridge Audio CXA80 to see whether the extra power is necessary, overall impression still the same, so I just went with the PM6005.


Out of topic: officially crossed the Q300 from my options. Although the guy says that pair doesn't have much playback time, but I think the general characteristic is not my taste.


Edit: i plug the RCA into phono jack, no wonder my headphone sound weird lol. Changed them to the recorder jack and it's normal now. Using the amp as an eq for my headphone in the meantime rclxms.gif

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post Jun 2 2016, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(TenNix @ Jun 1 2016, 09:42 PM)
Went to demo the PM6005 + KEF Q300, harsh, bright, thin is all I can say. Power wise it is pretty good.
They didn't have PM8005 in stock, so I requested the Q300 to be paired with Cambridge Audio CXA80 to see whether the extra power is necessary, overall impression still the same, so I just went with the PM6005.
The headphone jack can't play my earphones and headphone properly though, so it'll just sit there until I return to Malaysia  dry.gif .
Out of topic: officially crossed the Q300 from my options. Although the guy says that pair doesn't have much playback time, but I think the general characteristic is not my taste.
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q300 positioned too close together?
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post Jun 2 2016, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(ktek @ Jun 2 2016, 12:28 AM)
q300 positioned too close together?
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Would not say close, there's a TV in between, 2 metres I believe.

The sales guy did mention both amp and speakers are on the bright side though.
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post Jun 2 2016, 07:52 AM

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QUOTE(TenNix @ Jun 1 2016, 09:42 PM)
Went to demo the PM6005 + KEF Q300, harsh, bright, thin is all I can say. Power wise it is pretty good.
They didn't have PM8005 in stock, so I requested the Q300 to be paired with Cambridge Audio CXA80 to see whether the extra power is necessary, overall impression still the same, so I just went with the PM6005.
Out of topic: officially crossed the Q300 from my options. Although the guy says that pair doesn't have much playback time, but I think the general characteristic is not my taste.
Edit: i plug the RCA into phono jack, no wonder my headphone sound weird lol. Changed them to the recorder jack and it's normal now. Using the amp as an eq for my headphone in the meantime  rclxms.gif
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Q300 is a very bright speaker without additional woofer. PM6005 built-in DAC also very bright.

Very bright speaker + very bright DAC = harsh

One of the quick solution is to use external DAC. Once have the NA8005, then it is okay. However with Q300, maybe you can try those slower (maybe cheaper) DAC to compensate.
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post Jun 2 2016, 07:58 AM

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QUOTE(chanhin @ Jun 2 2016, 07:52 AM)
Q300 is a very bright speaker without additional woofer. PM6005 built-in DAC also very bright.

Very bright speaker + very bright DAC = harsh

One of the quick solution is to use external DAC. Once have the NA8005, then it is okay. However with Q300, maybe you can try those slower (maybe cheaper) DAC to compensate.
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I didn't use the 6005's DAC though

Phone - OPPO HA2 (as DAC) - 3.5mm to phono - PM6005 - Q300


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You should try it with the B&W to compare
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QUOTE(TenNix @ Jun 2 2016, 07:58 AM)
I didn't use the 6005's DAC though

Phone - OPPO HA2 (as DAC) - 3.5mm to phono - PM6005 - Q300
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Oppo HA2.... dry.gif
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post Jun 2 2016, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(chanhin @ Jun 2 2016, 12:15 PM)
Oppo HA2....  dry.gif
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I use the line out though, not sure if it affects.. Out of topic anyway :/


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