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post Mar 10 2015, 01:05 AM

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post Mar 10 2015, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Mar 10 2015, 01:05 AM)
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Are those gateron switch with cherry mx stems?
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post Mar 10 2015, 08:15 AM

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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Mar 9 2015, 08:11 PM)
the backlit is only red?
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CM STORM QFR Ultimate : NO, it depends on model

SGK-4011-GKCL1 (Blue switch/Red backlight)
SGK-4011-GKCL2 (Blue switch/Blue backlight)
SGK-4011-GKCM1 (Brown switch/Red backlight)
SGK-4011-GKCM2 (Brown switch/white backlight)
SGK-4011-GKCR1 (Red switch/Red backlight)
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post Mar 10 2015, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(Oyaji @ Mar 9 2015, 03:45 PM)
I chose either those 2 because of the lack of backlighting. Important to explain to the wife that I bought normal cheap keyboard instead of expensive one lol. The cm qfr xt that I refer to is the one with numpad. Important for me since I'm using it regularly.
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If you use it regularly for numpad, Ducky Zero do offer full layout as well.
CM XT and Ducky Zero have standard layout, both are ok. nod.gif
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post Mar 10 2015, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(justordinary @ Mar 10 2015, 01:34 AM)
Are those gateron switch with cherry mx stems?
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post Mar 10 2015, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(ZR46 @ Mar 10 2015, 08:15 AM)
CM STORM QFR Ultimate : NO, it depends on model

SGK-4011-GKCL1 (Blue switch/Red backlight)
SGK-4011-GKCL2 (Blue switch/Blue backlight)
SGK-4011-GKCM1 (Brown switch/Red backlight)
SGK-4011-GKCM2 (Brown switch/white backlight)
SGK-4011-GKCR1 (Red switch/Red backlight)
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post Mar 10 2015, 06:55 PM

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How does mx clear feels compared to browns?
Brown is not tactile enough for me sad.gif
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post Mar 10 2015, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Mar 10 2015, 06:55 PM)
How does mx clear feels compared to browns?
Brown is not tactile enough for me sad.gif
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i know what you mean about brown not tactile enough. laugh.gif nod.gif
and yes, clears is your saviour for tactile alternatives for brown.
it's definitely more tactile.
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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Mar 10 2015, 10:55 AM)
Yes de, no wrong  biggrin.gif
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Does it change the feeling of the switch by much? I'm thinking to put blue stems into gateron housing but not sure if it will feel bad!
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QUOTE(justordinary @ Mar 10 2015, 09:05 PM)
Does it change the feeling of the switch by much? I'm thinking to put blue stems into gateron housing but not sure if it will feel bad!
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why dont just buy gateron mx blue straight ?
then you can play around with cherry and gateron, mix n swap among.
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post Mar 10 2015, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(justnits @ Mar 10 2015, 07:07 PM)
i know what you mean about brown not tactile enough.  laugh.gif  nod.gif
and yes, clears is your saviour for tactile alternatives for brown.
it's definitely more tactile.
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cherry mx clear available at taobao?

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post Mar 10 2015, 10:51 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Mar 10 2015, 10:49 PM)
cherry mx clear available at taobao?
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post Mar 10 2015, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Mar 10 2015, 08:34 AM)
If you use it regularly for numpad, Ducky Zero do offer full layout as well.
CM XT and Ducky Zero have standard layout, both are ok.  nod.gif
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I've decided to get ducky zero 2108. CM XT while it is a good kb its frame is said to be rubber coated in which I'm not fond of. Definitely going to buy it before this April.

Now to decide whether blue or brown switch hmmm.

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post Mar 11 2015, 12:47 AM

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post Mar 11 2015, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Mar 10 2015, 10:51 PM)
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post Mar 11 2015, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(0168257061 @ Mar 11 2015, 12:47 AM)
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welp, that's it...
looks like I have to save up for a b87 laugh.gif
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post Mar 11 2015, 09:34 AM

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Am i only the one that think the zink keycaps grips on the key switches are pretty crap? it's bounce out every time i press it.. blush.gif
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post Mar 11 2015, 10:29 AM

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I'm new to this mechanical keyboard thingy... Got myself the QuickFire TK a week ago. Although it's no where close to all the stuffs you guys are using here, being first time user... am really quite surprised with the effect and feel of mechanicals. Now the standard keyboard in my office feels like some crap plastic. -__-"
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post Mar 11 2015, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(antaras @ Mar 11 2015, 10:29 AM)
I'm new to this mechanical keyboard thingy... Got myself the QuickFire TK a week ago. Although it's no where close to all the stuffs you guys are using here, being first time user... am really quite surprised with the effect and feel of mechanicals. Now the standard keyboard in my office feels like some crap plastic. -__-"
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Hi and welcome to the club. smile.gif
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post Mar 11 2015, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(Patent @ Mar 10 2015, 06:55 PM)
How does mx clear feels compared to browns?
Brown is not tactile enough for me sad.gif
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For tactile switches, let's just talk about MX series only. Topre surely out of your range and Matias doesn't have that many keycaps available.

MX Browns are considered scratchy MX Reds. After using them for a long time, I have to say that although this assessment is correct, but I would call it unfair because I actually enjoyed using these scratchy reds as they give me a little feedback on actuation of switches.

Next would be the hallowed MX Clears. Clears have a more significant bump, which also translated to a more pronounced tactile experience. HOWEVER, it's actuation force is actually quite high, and most users who jumped from Browns to Clears suffer from significant fatigue.

Personally, I felt a lot fatigue even moving 5g upwards due to my typing habits (just floating above the keys, and trying my very best not to bottom out).

Having said all that, I now introduce to you the REAL poison of the MKB world: custom switches.

Easiest to be done are the MX Ergo Clears (shortened to eClears from now on). eClears have the advantage of accepting any actuation force from 50g to 62g. Anything lower won't bounce back up, while anything tougher makes no sense as you can just use stock clears. Chief among the so-called poison is the need to lube the switches, as well as almost insane amount of consistency tuning needed to make the switches feel and react the same way. A well tuned eClear is the closest feel I get to Topre.

One of my favourites, and also the biggest time-sink and expertise required will be Jailhouse Blues (JHB). JHB involves locking up the slider on MX Blues with either copper/steel wire or thin o-rings (also known as the insanitarium). This in effect shortens the travel time, reduces the loudness (esp for the insanitarium build) and turns the Blues from clicky to tactile. The closest feel I can describe it with is something akin to MX Clears.

So, in the end, what switches you end up with is up to you, but I suggest that you do a LOT more homework on the world of tactile MX switches (sans exotic types) before committing to one.

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