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post Dec 7 2014, 11:17 PM, updated 7y ago

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I'm starting a new specific project thread for this as this project info has started disseminating. Previous threads are not specific enough and no clear information.

Status: Show Gallery started construction

Target Preview: Q1 2015



Phase 1

Commercial Plot K1 Components:


Phase 1A: 11-storey Shopping Mall including 5-storey carpark podium and 2-levels shared
Phase 1B: 1 block of 12-storey Boutique Office and 1 block of 42-storey Corporate Tower atop Level 3 of Shopping Mall
Phase 1C: 1 block of 12-storey Hotel atop *Level 3 of Shopping Mall

All consists of 3 levels of basement levels for carpark.


Residential Plot R4 Components:

- 1x 42-storey Condominium Tower (470 units)
- 1x 42-storey Condominium Tower (470 units)

Residential Plot R2 Components:

- 1x 38-storey (North) 29-storey (South) Condominium Tower (419 units)


FUTURE/OTHER PHASES: To be announced later.

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post Dec 7 2014, 11:41 PM

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post Dec 8 2014, 12:40 AM

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need more condos.. good location but will compete with pavi BJ..

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Dec 8 2014, 12:40 AM)
need more condos.. fantastic location though.. gona give Pavi BJ & Mid Valley a hard time!
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Bigger than MV n PV BJ ??

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Holy crap! Will this compete with Pavilion BJ or will it be different target segments? Bukit jalil boleh!!! 5 minutes from both supermalls! Not to mention further massive infra redevelopment in the area!

The corporate towers/signature offices are interesting. That means BJ will be a major commercial hub! Next Bandar Utama?

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post Dec 8 2014, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Dec 7 2014, 05:40 PM)
Bigger than MV n PV BJ ??
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i think Pavi BJ bigger..
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Dec 8 2014, 08:29 AM)
i think Pavi BJ bigger..
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BJ war begin soon
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post Dec 8 2014, 09:28 AM

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wow.... lagi jam..

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QUOTE(rainman19 @ Dec 7 2014, 07:25 PM)
BJ war begin soon
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i think this one got direct access from KESAS..so only the KESAS will be jammed.. PAVI bj will jam up the whole jalil n kinrara..
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Dec 8 2014, 09:40 AM)
i think this one got direct access from KESAS..so only the KESAS will be jammed.. PAVI bj will jam up the whole jalil n kinrara..
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lagi jam lagi ong ma..
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This one even better location than Pavi Bj. Direct access to Kesas. But Pavi plot of land bigger and Malton has strong retail power. Let's see how the fight goes, 2 megamalls next to each other.

Please target different segments lar. Don't kill each other. If I can guess I think Paradigm OUG will be similar to the KJ one while Pavi Bj maybe higher class abit like Gardens.
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this paradigm should have midscale anchors like AEon.. pavi maybe isetan or Metrojaya
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QUOTE(ivanpei @ Dec 8 2014, 10:29 AM)
This one even better location than Pavi Bj. Direct access to Kesas. But Pavi plot of land bigger and Malton has strong retail power. Let's see how the fight goes, 2 megamalls next to each other.

Please target different segments lar. Don't kill each other. If I can guess I think Paradigm OUG will be similar to the KJ one while Pavi Bj maybe higher class abit like Gardens.
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i would rather put Pav BJ as mid upper market instead of high end.
no doubt, this is still bukit jalil but not Golden triangle.

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Pavi BJ will introduce new concepts not seen in Malaysia. River and garden rooftop? Ice skating rink. Internal duplex store atrium.
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post Dec 8 2014, 12:44 PM

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any walkalator plan from LRT ?
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QUOTE(rainman19 @ Dec 8 2014, 10:58 AM)
i would rather put Pav BJ as mid upper market instead of high end.
no doubt, this is still bukit jalil but not Golden triangle.
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same same tot. market here at Pav BJ can only be mid low to mid upper market.
high end is more like suicide plan.

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Wow, this will make the OUG D/S Terrace house price shooting up to perhaps 1.2~1.4mil ?? current market value is about 950k dy for basic house.
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QUOTE(accetera @ Dec 8 2014, 12:18 PM)
Pavi BJ will introduce new concepts not seen in Malaysia. River and garden rooftop? Ice skating rink. Internal duplex store atrium.
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Good for a change, long overdue. HK and SG malls had them few years back
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QUOTE(Mr.JJchampian @ Dec 8 2014, 09:28 AM)
wow.... lagi jam..
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Jam no a issue. We got Mrt/Lrt mah smile.gif
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QUOTE(accetera @ Dec 8 2014, 12:18 PM)
Pavi BJ will introduce new concepts not seen in Malaysia. River and garden rooftop? Ice skating rink. Internal duplex store atrium.
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New concept similler to One City mall usj??
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QUOTE(weisun @ Dec 10 2014, 01:24 AM)
Wow, this will make the OUG D/S Terrace house price shooting up to perhaps 1.2~1.4mil ?? current market value is about 950k dy for basic house.
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Price up up up.......BJ can figjt cbj liao smile.gif
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QUOTE(accetera @ Dec 8 2014, 12:18 PM)
Pavi BJ will introduce new concepts not seen in Malaysia. River and garden rooftop? Ice skating rink. Internal duplex store atrium.
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You mean atrium for the whole mall design or individual store atrium?
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Dec 10 2014, 07:35 AM)
Price up up up.......BJ can figjt cbj liao smile.gif
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Hi Peri Gor, is this may end up like Bandar Utama township? Any Member here has bought the landed house in OUG?
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QUOTE(weisun @ Dec 10 2014, 09:16 AM)
Hi Peri Gor, is this may end up like Bandar Utama township? Any Member here has bought the landed house in OUG?
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I think will be better than Bandar Utama smile.gif
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Dec 10 2014, 09:28 AM)
I think will be better than Bandar Utama smile.gif
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Serious PeriGor ?! Better than Bandar UTama ?? I heard Bandar Utama house is around 1.4 to 1.8 mil (BU2, 4 and 6) Then i shall targeting OUG Houses now instead of buying condo in City Center.
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QUOTE(weisun @ Dec 10 2014, 09:42 AM)
Serious PeriGor ?! Better than Bandar UTama ?? I heard Bandar Utama house is around 1.4 to 1.8 mil (BU2, 4 and 6) Then i shall targeting OUG Houses now instead of buying condo in City Center.
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Long term yes. BJ got Pavi2 and Pard2 mah smile.gif
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Dec 10 2014, 09:47 AM)
Long term yes. BJ got Pavi2 and Pard2 mah smile.gif
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Long term not cbj?

oug bj very high dense. better avoid.

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I have found this development plan photo prepared by bro MARL^^.....


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post Dec 10 2014, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(MaiGehGeh @ Dec 9 2014, 08:35 PM)
Long term not cbj?

oug bj very high dense. better avoid.

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but u got many props in BJ mah?
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QUOTE(MaiGehGeh @ Dec 10 2014, 10:35 AM)
Long term not cbj?

oug bj very high dense. better avoid.

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bro MGG, i like ur reverse promo strategy. just like what i did to my kids ... told them not to do this or that they sure don't listen and insists want to do it.

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QUOTE(Babizz @ Dec 10 2014, 10:58 AM)
but u got many props in BJ mah?
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no more. cash is king now

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QUOTE(MaiGehGeh @ Dec 10 2014, 11:44 AM)
no more. cash is king now

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But don't keep ringgit too much..later become like Thai Baht.
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QUOTE(kvotnet @ Dec 10 2014, 11:05 AM)
bro MGG, i like ur reverse promo strategy. just like what i did to my kids ... told them not to do this or that they sure don't listen and insists want to do it.

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no no..im seriously on this..... i dont joke u know me right?

BJ and OUG gonna be very high dense..... by 2019

i will focus to sibehjaya to follow all tycoon.

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Anyway I'm always upbeat on this area and surrounding. With upcoming infrastructure like LRT and Maju Highway and medium/highend condos, this will be new Bandar Utama or even better.
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QUOTE(ronn77 @ Dec 10 2014, 11:46 AM)
But don't keep ringgit too much..later become like Thai Baht.
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will seriously take your advice

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QUOTE(MaiGehGeh @ Dec 10 2014, 10:35 AM)
Long term not cbj?

oug bj very high dense. better avoid.

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Boss, big boss like u where oso no problem base on ur super strong holding power.....

dense or not for u 200% not a issue smile.gif
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Dec 10 2014, 10:58 AM)
but u got many props in BJ mah?
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MGG boss have min 10unit ++ BJ property.....


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QUOTE(MaiGehGeh @ Dec 10 2014, 11:48 AM)
no no..im seriously on this..... i dont joke u know me right?

BJ and OUG gonna be very high dense..... by 2019

i will focus to sibehjaya to follow all tycoon.

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Tan seri, u sure bor??

Later all reject buy Bj and all go cbj, the developer sure cari u punya......smile.gif smile.gif
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QUOTE(MaiGehGeh @ Dec 9 2014, 09:48 PM)
no no..im seriously on this..... i dont joke u know me right?

BJ and OUG gonna be very high dense..... by 2019

i will focus to sibehjaya to follow all tycoon.

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boss, although BJ will be super dense, it still won't have as many apartments as CBJ.. BJ is closer to KL than CBJ.. a lot of taikor still laughing at cyber buyers.. think abt it, prices increase so low for so many yrs n now 15k new units will enter the market.. how will the market be?

my2c for sibehjaya.. great place for ownstay but not investing lor..
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Any updates for this new project?
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Breaking news: Target official Launch in Q1 2017!!
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Breaking news: Target official Launch in Q1 2017!!
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Breaking news: Target official Launch in Q1 2017!!
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what is to be launched first?
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Source: The Edge (Edition 19~25 Jan 2015)
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OUG Freehold D/S and S/S houses will be further appreciate in future due to this Paradigm OUG developments. As reference to the Paradigm mall in PJ which developed by WCT, currently their newly launch "Azure" which behind the Paradigm mall is about 1,000 psf (leasehold) dy.

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QUOTE(weisun @ Jan 18 2015, 05:02 PM)
Source: The Edge (Edition 19~25 Jan 2015)
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2017 back to 2015?

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i thought they have already obtained DO from DBKL on certain phase ?
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Cant wait to see the booming of bj! The next BU?! GIZA?!;)
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QUOTE(PeriPeri2014 @ Dec 10 2014, 09:28 AM)
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Better than BU?

Seriously, not easy. BU is doing very very well. The own stayers are majority all high educated families, lifestyle, and great spending power and good financial & investment background. OUG is doing well too, but more chinese proximity and speaking old town & area. Quite different.

To match or better than BU, OUG area need to better off Bkt Jalil landed first.
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QUOTE(MaiGehGeh @ Jan 18 2015, 06:45 PM)
2017 back to 2015?

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Hi MGG, i mean the WCT targeted 2017 launching news published in The Edge Weekly (version: 19~25 Jan 2015)
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WCT is building show gallery onsite now.
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QUOTE(weisun @ Jan 18 2015, 10:15 PM)
Hi MGG, i mean the WCT targeted 2017 launching news published in The Edge Weekly (version: 19~25 Jan 2015)
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WCT is building show gallery onsite now.
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Pat gor, building show gallery now and expected to be launch Q1 2017?

Is there possibility to launch earlier?

Thanks

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QUOTE(MaiGehGeh @ Jan 18 2015, 10:21 PM)
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From recent news, seems like WCT is pushing hard in their Paradigm PJ project (Azure + New World Hotel)....
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WCT aims to grow shopping mall trade
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PETALING JAYA: WCT Holdings Bhd is eyeing to derive 20% of the group's net profit from its investment and management division by 2016, from 10% currently.

Executive director Kenny Wong Yik Kae (pix) told SunBiz it is committed to growing the shopping mall business and that shopping malls under the group will grow to 3.3 million sq ft in terms of net lettable area by 2016, from 2 million sq ft currently.

He envisaged that in five years, it will have added another two shopping malls and three hotels, from three shopping malls currently. The two new malls are Paradigm Mall in Johor Baru that is expected to open in the third quarter of 2016, while Paradigm Mall in OUG is targeted to open in 2018.
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Wct got money Lar. 2018 quite soon can other not? S they build first sell later? Market not very good now but they will proceed and build first?
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QUOTE(weisun @ Mar 19 2015, 06:06 PM)
WCT aims to grow shopping mall trade
Posted on 16 March 2015 - 05:36am
THE SUN DAILY

PETALING JAYA: WCT Holdings Bhd is eyeing to derive 20% of the group's net profit from its investment and management division by 2016, from 10% currently.

Executive director Kenny Wong Yik Kae (pix) told SunBiz it is committed to growing the shopping mall business and that shopping malls under the group will grow to 3.3 million sq ft in terms of net lettable area by 2016, from 2 million sq ft currently.

He envisaged that in five years, it will have added another two shopping malls and three hotels, from three shopping malls currently. The two new malls are Paradigm Mall in Johor Baru that is expected to open in the third quarter of 2016, while Paradigm Mall in OUG is targeted to open in 2018.
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2018.... Can it be done?

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QUOTE(MaiGehGeh @ Mar 20 2015, 08:22 AM)
Good news.

2018.... Can it be done?

Finger crossed

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Targetted only mah, it is for investor to read so that they can buy more wct share. But it is better for them to do it as earlier as possible i think, pavillion 2 is just nearby, if they can completed before pavillion and get all tenants first then it is good for them.
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Pavilion already full steam ahead, I don't think WCT can build faster than them lor.

Anyway this area going to see massive transformation soon. The new BU.
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http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...alls/?style=biz

WCT plans 2 new malls

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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ May 31 2015, 12:11 AM)
WCT plans 2 new malls
By: CHERYL POO | The Star BizWeek | Saturday, 30 May 2015
http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...alls/?style=biz


WHEN WCT Holdings Bhd opened its first mall – the Aeon Bukit Tinggi Shopping Mall – in Klang eight years ago, it was a start to a long-term plan to diversify into shopping mall ownership and management.

The company had built retail buildings including The Curve and Tesco Mutiara Damansara, Tesco Bukit Tinggi, Aeon Bukit Indah Johor and Aeon Malacca, so it was a natural progression for the construction outfit.

In the last three years, the group has, though its property arm WCT Land developed two more retail buildings – the Paradigm Mall in Petaling Jaya and Gateway@KLIA2, the integrated complex at the budget airlines airport.

A total of RM5bil had been allocated for its investment and development of this business arm.

It plans to build the Paradigm Johor Baru, a 1.3 million sq ft mall along Jalan Skudai.

Construction for Paradigm Johor Baru is underway and the mall will be launched next year,

This will be followed by Paradigm Kuala Lumpur, a mall with 1.5 million sq ft of net lettable area in Old Klang Road.

The project will entail development cost of RM700mil and would also comprise residential towers, offices, a hotel and perhaps an auditorium.


While plans for both malls have yet to be announced, WCT Malls Management general manager Vincent Chong tells StarBizWeek the offerings must be enticing to keep up with competitors.

Not far off from WCT’s upcoming mall in Kuala Lumpur, the Pavilion Holdings Group too is setting up a mall of about two million sq ft.



Battling the odds

With the upcoming addition of sizeable new malls such as Sunway Putra Mall in Kuala Lumpur, Sunway Velocity Mall in Cheras, IOI City Mall in Putrajaya, WCT has been fanning its advertising and promotional activities,

This year, WCT has been bringing in celebrities for meet-and-greet sessions by collaborating with Astro, Fox and Dreamworks.

Riding on the K-pop craze, it discovered, really draws in the crowd.

“By early morning, many teenagers were waiting with their mothers for tickets,” Chong says.

He admits Paradigm Petaling Jaya, which has a rental rate of RM7-8 per sq ft on its 680,000 net lettable area, has not experienced growth in terms of numbers since January.

“We must be realistic. For now, our focus is just to sustain business for our tenants. As such, we haven’t targeted growth for this mall this year,” Chong says.

Now that Paradigm has stabilised, WCT is ready to launch an office tower and hotel components, the latter, which will be managed by New World Millenium Hong Kong Hotel.

By next month, seven levels of office space at Paradigm Mall Petaling Jaya will be ready. WCT will occupy two levels, while negotiations with multi-level companies and a university to tenant the rest of the building by the third quarter of 2016 are underway.

The Paradigm mall needs an occupancy rate of 85% to be sustainable, while Pavilion Kuala Lumpur requires at least 80%.



Managing an airport mall

WCT is expecting Gateway@KLIA2, its long-term concession with Malaysia Airports Holdings Bhd, to break even within the next two to three years.

For 2015, the airport complex’s annual gross revenue is expected to be RM105mil.

“Running an airport mall is different from managing one in the city,” Chong says.

Gateway has 120 retailers and they occupy 74% of the total net lettable area (NLA).

Food and beverage providers make up 30% of the tenancy mix, while the rest are providers of travel items, books and magazines, fashion apparel and accessories.

It has not been easy for WCT to find suitable tenants at the Gateway@KLIA2 mall in spite of the high traffic there, but Chong explains there are only 350,000 sq ft of NLA available as the mall is part of the airport and not a standalone retail building as is in some countries. “These numbers may not seem encouraging but bear in mind that KLIA2 was designed to cater to 45 million passengers. In that case, we shouldn’t expect 100% occupancy rate for now,” Chong said.

Gateway is currently only catering to about 25 million airport passengers and captures some three million footfalls per month.

Jaya Grocer, which initially caters to the 10,000 airport employees, is now providing convenience to foreign tourists and locals.

“We aren’t projecting a significant increase in occupancy and we have to be very careful about our tenancy mix. Another nasi lemak vendor would just cannibalise other existing food outlets,” Chong said. “For now, we need more fashion tenants.”

As passenger numbers are expected to grow to 28 million from 25 million this year, WCT will grow and expand Gateway in tandem with that.

“We work closely with tenants such as the RM1 day promotion, where meals and products are sold at RM1. We will probably do that again after our Raya promotions,” Chong says.



Overseas ventures?

For the first quarter ended March 31, the group’s property development and investment segments registered revenue of RM102mil and operational profit of RM32mil.

At the group level, net profit was RM33mil, 17.5% lower than RM40mil last year.

Revenue was RM352mil, 24.6% lower than RM467mil the year before due to the completion of several projects.

WCT said in a filing with Bursa Malaysia it expected contribution from the new projects to increase in the second half of the year.

It was reported that WCT was looking to venture into the Indonesian property market with a company there.

“To do that, we must really explore first. For now, we are comfortable in Malaysia and we have a unique product in Gateway. If another opportunity to build an airport mall comes up, we should be first in line to do it,” Chong says.

“If Indonesia asks, we would say yes.”
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Wow!! BBB for OUG landed houses then..
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recenly open so much of mall , can them survive???
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PARADIGM @ OUG vs PAVILION @ BUKIT JALIL
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Great BOOMING effect due to the whole development of Pavilion Bukit Jalil + Paradigm OUG + Old Klang Road Redevelopment plan... Property around this area will be BBB mode.
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Great BOOMING effect due to the whole development of Pavilion Bukit Jalil + Paradigm OUG + Old Klang Road Redevelopment plan... Property around this area will be BBB mode.
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I saw some land clearing in front of the road from OUG to Bkt Jalil. Something is brewing?
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Yup, the signboard has a big WCT logo on it. Looks like work has started.
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the land is build the showroom gallery.
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any1 know this piece of land is freehold or leasehold ?
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any1 know this piece of land is freehold or leasehold ?
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So paradigm 2 is leasehold?
How about pavilion 2?
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I tot OUG is FH? How come this piece of land is LH...clueless.

BTW, Bukit jalil area is a mix of FH and LH and even FH also come with restriction. If I am not mistaken...

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So paradigm 2 is leasehold?
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then abit hard to flip ... hmm.gif hmm.gif
think the respond wont be as great as park sky due to leasehold as one of the factor
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Hearsay Paradigm pj many retails closed down 😆
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Hearsay Paradigm pj many retails closed down 😆
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MID VALEY SOME RETAILS ALSO CLOSED DOWN
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Hearsay Paradigm pj many retails closed down 😆
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Heard more to close down brows.gif brows.gif did u visit recently? i think pavi BJ will get good tenants n this paradigma will suffer... jus my analysis rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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MID VALEY SOME RETAILS ALSO CLOSED DOWN
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Paradigm management kick out lauzy tenants? Or because of high rental?


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Heard more to close down  brows.gif  brows.gif did u visit recently? i think pavi BJ will get good tenants n this paradigma will suffer... jus my analysis  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif
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I would be happy to see all the malls closed down. rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(ryan@chua @ Jul 6 2015, 09:58 PM)
Paradigm management kick out lauzy tenants?  Or because of high rental?
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Overall retail market soften now
Consumer Spending slow dwn, Rental keep increasing
Paradigm pj without consistent foot traffic to convert retail sales
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Overall retail market soften now
Consumer Spending slow dwn, Rental keep increasing
Paradigm pj without consistent foot traffic to convert retail sales
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quality tenants need quality consumer to spend, otherwise, none can sustain. the retail market is slowing down as a consequence of the GST, oil price and other factors, after this month , it will be even worst. Be prepare for more closure !

In Penang, Johor and ShahAlam, plenty of factories closing down or scaling down, VSS, force leave, etc are norms now.


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quality tenants need quality consumer to spend, otherwise, none can sustain. the retail market is slowing down as a consequence of the GST, oil price and other factors, after this month , it will be even worst. Be prepare for more closure !

In Penang, Johor and ShahAlam, plenty of factories closing down or scaling down, VSS, force leave, etc are norms now.
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even station one and paparich in kuchai lama all close down
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Look at stock market already know how good our malaysia economic
Stock market prelude of economic conditions
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Hearsay Paradigm pj many retails closed down 😆
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bad business a ? i alway pass by from puchong to 1utama mall ... long time nvr been there..
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even station one and paparich in kuchai lama all close down
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huh when station 1 close ? wa... so bad business , kuchai close business keep changing, station 1 is long time there..
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Look at stock market already know how good our malaysia economic
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even station one and paparich in kuchai lama all close down
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Rental increase. Paparich refused pay. N replaced by no see no split cafe. Station one out dated Liao.
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because many news keep dig out to hit our good leader... ringgit drop, stock drop .. later on must soy sauce mix rice eat la ...
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Not only because of that, development without proper planning, corruption, racism, poor education system all are factors.

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quality tenants need quality consumer to spend, otherwise, none can sustain. the retail market is slowing down as a consequence of the GST, oil price and other factors, after this month , it will be even worst. Be prepare for more closure !

In Penang, Johor and ShahAlam, plenty of factories closing down or scaling down, VSS, force leave, etc are norms now.
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China corporate come set regional centre office at malai. Due to powderful multi Rojak language and cheap local labor.

Nowadays China corporation pay to their employee from China salary super high. 1 of my local friend just graduated 1years + work in China company get around 5k pay. But compare to his China colleg almost same working experience. The salary different macam sky and land. After he found out... He sibeh tulan the pay so different.

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Signboard alredy up n earthworks in progress
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For this paradigm oug location
Is it good for investment or just for own stay ?
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For this paradigm oug location
Is it good for investment or just for own stay ?
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Prime & strategic area like OUG, KL address, price will hardly fall.
Only currency drop like sky fall (NDF already 3.91 = 1USD). Better keep assets rather than cash (Rm)
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Prime & strategic area like OUG, KL address, price will hardly fall.
Only currency drop like sky fall (NDF already 3.91 = 1USD). Better keep assets rather than cash (Rm)
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Agree
but must depends on holding power also
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I heard the big boss insist of 1000 psf le.
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Heard it's launching on 2018 right ?
Judging on current malaysia economic and inflation rate
1000 psf justify the price la
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Heard it's launching on 2018 right ?
Judging on current malaysia economic and inflation rate
1000 psf justify the price la
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Building show room. I think 4th q this year. So 1000 psf still justifiable ? ?? Hehehe
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Building show room. I think 4th q this year. So 1000 psf still  justifiable ? ?? Hehehe
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look at pav park sky
many rich cash buyer out there hehe
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Prime & strategic area like OUG, KL address, price will hardly fall.
Only currency drop like sky fall (NDF already 3.91 = 1USD). Better keep assets rather than cash (Rm)
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I heard the big boss insist of 1000 psf le.
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Which boss Tiang or Wong?
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Which boss Tiang or Wong?
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Don't worry
look at pav park sky
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rich people every where got...but not so sure they will buy... hmm.gif
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Since Park Sky reception so hot, I think this won't be cheap since similar luxury concept too. You need to sell what cash rich people want, I think the location is A+ but WCT need to market it well. Malton show room, marketing package, video and pretty salesperson all high grade, haha see WCT can copy or not.
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Which boss Tiang or Wong?
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RM 1,000 definitely over price.

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any news on how the access from kesas will be? i prefer park sky's location with park n mall with a higher chance of success then this one..
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any news on how the access from kesas will be? i prefer park sky's location with park n mall with a higher chance of success then this one..
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Park sky is like Melbourne liveable n sustainable . Too many offerings have mall and condo.

Link 2 also very good. Got park n golf plus a small retail mall.
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QUOTE(Cocoon @ Jul 19 2015, 10:15 PM)
Park sky is like Melbourne  liveable n sustainable . Too many offerings have mall and condo.

Link 2 also very good. Got park n golf plus a small retail mall.
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agree with u.. but i think those apartments above malls that may do badly should be frowned upon (encor strend).. park sky is good as its not above the mall yet close enough (with a tunnel) to a future OK/successful mall..
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agree with u.. but i think those apartments above malls that may do badly should be frowned upon (encor strend).. park sky is good as its not above the mall yet close enough (with a tunnel) to a future OK/successful mall..
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the most attract part of park sky is the park beside and mall,

you want dining/enjoy with friend can go mall,

you want relex enjoy the natural go park
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the most attract part of park sky is the park beside and mall,

you want dining/enjoy with friend can go mall,

you want relex enjoy the natural go park
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All walking distance. Think.also stem oredi kakaka
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Passed by the project site this morning.  Giant hoarding has been put up with colorful posters all round.
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RM 1,000 definitely over price.
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Why overprice? Twin Arkz and The Treez also selling close to RM1k psf

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Why overprice? Twin Arkz and The Treez also selling close to RM1k psf
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Why overprice? Twin Arkz and The Treez also selling close to RM1k psf
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IS that right? 1000 psf??
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Why overprice? Twin Arkz and The Treez also selling close to RM1k psf
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Asking price doesn't translate to actual transaction la! At this moment, it's hovering around RM 750-800 psf. FYI, actual transacted price since 2014 till YTD is only RM 588-716 psf depending on BUs blink.gif

Mind u, rental (yield) market in this area may not be attractive, most investors / home buyers are only looking at long term capital appreciation

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I truly believe so.. It's certainly over ambitious if that's what WCT is looking to launch.. WCT brand somehow doesn't carry such perceived "luxury" price tag.. Pavilion on the other hand does so.. Paradigm KJ may be successful from the start but somehow they have problems renewing the current lease, I believe partly could due to the rental rates. I personally didn't like the wall design / setup, parking & lifts (I don't remember seeing any escalators) leading to the malls are scary too!
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I'm most curious about the access. They have very little room to work with for the access to kesas. The turning from kesas to Sri Petaling is already crazy jammed on weekdays. If they can find away to deal with the access, this will be a highly successful mall. Like paradigm Kj, the traffic pass this location is very heavy and frontage/ location is extremely good.
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I'm most curious about the access. They have very little room to work with for the access to kesas. The turning from kesas to Sri Petaling is already crazy jammed on weekdays. If they can find away to deal with the access, this will be a highly successful mall. Like paradigm Kj, the traffic pass this location is very heavy and frontage/ location is extremely good.
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access is good for Paradigm KJ, but still many shops closed due to economy down turn n too many competition in PJ...

Paradigm KL also will face fierce competition from MidValley n Pavilion Bukit Jalil.... will be another make it or lose it scenario.. unsure.gif .

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I am wondering how they gonna access from Kesas when there is a motorbike lane, and then a private land owner (still planting vege and farming) blocking access from the highway. Anyone any clues? If they can overcome this barrier, I think it will be superb!
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I'm sure WCT have plans for the access.. they not any small time / cheapo developer.. It's Tier 1 developer icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(bigman @ Jul 25 2015, 11:31 PM)
access is good for Paradigm KJ, but still many shops closed due to economy down turn n too many competition in PJ...

Paradigm KL also will face fierce competition from MidValley n Pavilion Bukit Jalil.... will be another make it or lose it scenario.. unsure.gif .
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I can name a few more malls with as good access n frontage as KJ mall but struggle also.. anyone knows wthr the occupancy there has dipped below 70%? I notice small/mid sized malls in Pj/damansara doing worse off than outskirts..

Although the concept is not out, tenants would only be 'here' or pavi BJ n its not hard to guess doh.gif doh.gif

QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jul 26 2015, 09:04 AM)
I'm sure WCT have plans for the access.. they not any small time / cheapo developer.. It's Tier 1 developer  icon_rolleyes.gif
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if u ask ppl who are familiar with their product n workmanship, u might wana rethink yr statement.. fr eg, u can go aon bkt tinggi n see d tile work always crack from 8yrs ago till now n nowaday heard they tookover carpark management n charge like siao which is more than twice of paradigma cos they know paradigma struggling n bkt tinggi doing well..

But i reli like their paradigma office tower design icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Jul 26 2015, 11:12 PM)
I can name a few more malls with as good access n frontage as KJ mall but struggle also.. anyone knows wthr the occupancy there has dipped below 70%? I notice small/mid sized malls in Pj/damansara doing worse off than outskirts..

Although the concept is not out, tenants would only be 'here' or pavi BJ n its not hard to guess  doh.gif  doh.gif
if u ask ppl who are familiar with their product n workmanship, u might wana rethink yr statement.. fr eg, u can go aon bkt tinggi n see d tile work always crack from 8yrs ago till now n nowaday heard they tookover carpark management n charge like siao which is more than twice of paradigma cos they know paradigma struggling n bkt tinggi doing well..

But i reli like their paradigma office tower design  icon_rolleyes.gif
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This 1 month old pic serves to remind us of paradigmas performance on a weekday evening during puasa month when only 3 restaurants was crowded.. great access from both sides of d ldp n excellent frontage with good tenant mix.. cry.gif

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This 1 month old pic serves to remind us of paradigmas performance on a weekday evening during puasa month when only 3 restaurants was crowded.. great access from both sides of d ldp n excellent frontage with good tenant mix..  cry.gif
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paradigm KL really tap on surrounding location, competition spill over effect.
in actual fact, Paradigm PJ is so so mall only

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Paradigm kj is struggling to hold on to their tenants.. so many shops closing... and heard some big one will not be renewing the tenancy.
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Paradigm kj is struggling to hold on to their tenants.. so many shops closing... and heard some big one will not be renewing the tenancy.
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The winner is still Midvalley mega mall i guess rolleyes.gif

1U will soon face a new rival - Empire city cool2.gif
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paradigm KL really tap on surrounding location, competition spill over effect.
in actual fact, Paradigm PJ is so so mall only
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Yalo. Agree with u on paradigm pj.

Ya. para kl Very very tap into surrounding especially Sri petaling, oug and kuchai areas far More easy to access compare to pvbj side.

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The winner is still Midvalley mega mall i guess   rolleyes.gif

1U will soon face a new rival - Empire city  cool2.gif
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Ya woh. This 1u and ec... Can very feel the threat. But maybe a temporary 1 for 1u. 1u with Mrt and easy access from highway. Manyak office. Manyak resi just walking distance. Got Famous dog park.

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The winner is still Midvalley mega mall i guess  rolleyes.gif

1U will soon face a new rival - Empire city  cool2.gif
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I don't know why people loved MV.. parking veli hard to get  nod.gif

KTM service sucks big time
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one which suck most is Monorel.. ktm aparently much much better nowadays.. MV getting KJ LRT n portklang ktm when kl ecocity is complete.. expect a lot of added footfall from this 2 train lines rclxm9.gif :hyper:now already 10k ppl use ktm to go MV..

MV tenant mix is the best in msia till now, thats why ppl love MV.. also parking hard to get if u go after 11am on weekends till the night despite 11-13k carpark which indicates very good business thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Jul 27 2015, 11:08 PM)
Ya woh. This 1u and ec... Can very feel the threat. But maybe a temporary 1 for 1u. 1u with Mrt and easy access from highway. Manyak office. Manyak resi just walking distance. Got Famous dog park.
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One u will definitely still win hands down. Due to the road access and also public transports unlike EC which only has one way in and out. Not only that, one has to pass by the jam curve/ikea/ikano and towards the 2 lanes tunnel and kampung to get into EC. I highly doubt there is any other access flyovers which link directly into EC.
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paradigm KL really tap on surrounding location, competition spill over effect.
in actual fact, Paradigm PJ is so so mall only
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Paradigm PJ is on 16acres land. 60acres for Paradigm KL(OUG).

Paradigm PJ is too close to htc. Not good feng sui.

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Paradigm PJ is on 16acres land. 60acres for Paradigm KL(OUG).

Paradigm PJ is too close to htc. Not good feng sui.

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More accurately 57 acres, but yes, it is a very big project. It's another mega developement.

92 acre MRCB Stadium Redevelopment
57 acre Paradigm Oug
60 acre Bukit Jalil city + Aurora

Crazy!
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QUOTE(ivanpei @ Jul 29 2015, 08:15 AM)
More accurately 57 acres, but yes, it is a very big project. It's another mega developement.

92 acre MRCB Stadium Redevelopment
57 acre Paradigm Oug
60 acre Bukit Jalil city + Aurora

Crazy!
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Any idea where is this 92 acres MRCB site?
Or is js refurbish the existing stadium & facilities.
Any upgrade of roads?😊
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Paradigm kj is struggling to hold on to their tenants.. so many shops closing... and heard some big one will not be renewing the tenancy.
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WCT will hold it till the new office and residential tower launched. The prop price will drop like shit if paradigm doesn't survive..
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Any idea where is this 92 acres MRCB site?
Or is js refurbish the existing stadium & facilities.
Any upgrade of roads?😊
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Can refer to accetera's map and thread. It is the piece of land next to the hockey stadium. It stretches from Komanwel Park all the way to the sewerage plant. That land is planned to be exchanged for Bukit Jalil stadium refurbishment. MRCB receives the 92 acres, gives government 1 billion worth of refurbishment.
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QUOTE(ivanpei @ Jul 29 2015, 11:25 AM)
Can refer to accetera's map and thread. It is the piece of land next to the hockey stadium. It stretches from Komanwel Park all the way to the sewerage plant. That land is planned to be exchanged for Bukit Jalil stadium refurbishment. MRCB receives the 92 acres, gives government 1 billion worth of refurbishment.
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QUOTE(ivanpei @ Jul 29 2015, 11:25 AM)
Can refer to accetera's map and thread. It is the piece of land next to the hockey stadium. It stretches from Komanwel Park all the way to the sewerage plant. That land is planned to be exchanged for Bukit Jalil stadium refurbishment. MRCB receives the 92 acres, gives government 1 billion worth of refurbishment.
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1b for 92 acres land is very worth
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WCT will hold it till the new office and residential tower launched. The prop price will drop like shit if paradigm doesn't survive..
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1b for 92 acres land is very worth
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translate to RM237psf land cost
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translate to RM237psf land cost
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Tough time for WCT now. heard from fren who working in WCT.
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Some site photos for the benefit of all.

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The last photo is the lot across the road (Jalan Awan Besar). Make way for an overhead direct link?

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The mall will occupy around 22.84 acres (38% of 60 acres) with 1.75 mil sf
The estimated GDV for ntire project around RM8 bil

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paradigm info in the star this week
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Very tough for retail. With two mall in such a close proximity, it is not good at all for all parties.

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Very tough for retail. With two mall in such a close proximity, it is not good at all for all parties.
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very true... these 2 malls are regional malls in the size of MV, pyramid etc competing for a small pool.. i bliv pavi BJ has the market for a regional mall from the south crowd while paradigma really no hope unless the concept very good.. some ppl predict a significant decline in MV but let's see lah rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Aug 8 2015, 02:32 PM)
very true... these 2 malls are regional malls in the size of MV, pyramid etc competing for a small pool.. i bliv pavi BJ has the market for a regional mall from the south crowd while paradigma really no hope unless the concept very good.. some ppl predict a significant decline in MV but let's see lah  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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South crowd may go iOi city mall Liao. Why come here?

Also South crowd mostly kena cut by toll before go in bj area. Mostly south crowd head south not much problem. only go north got toll problem.

Most south crowd head to iOi city mall By highway no need pay toll.

Mv itself got enuf crowd to support. With keep on growing okr population and mature pj kl Bangsar and damansara seputeh, Taman desa area. N okr resi head to Mv much much more easy than head to bj area.

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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Aug 8 2015, 03:28 PM)
South crowd may go iOi city mall Liao. Why come here?

Also South crowd mostly kena cut by toll before go in bj area. Mostly south crowd head south not much problem. only go north got toll problem.

Most south crowd head to iOi city mall By highway no need pay toll.

Mv itself got enuf crowd to support. With keep on growing okr population and mature pj kl Bangsar and damansara area. N okr resi head to Mv much much more easy than head to bj area.
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My house to MV 4 km nia, but i already 5 year never go to MV .
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Can't assume 100% pigi Mv. If can capture high percentage enuf Liao. Don't forget with the up coming new ikea will capture more south pipu head there.
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My house to MV 4 km nia, but i already 5 year never go to MV .
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lol almost every Malaysian dream to have mall near their house. and in your case MV which is among the hottest Mall in Malaysia icon_idea.gif
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Can't assume 100% pigi Mv. If can capture high percentage enuf Liao. Don't forget with the up coming new ikea will capture more south pipu head there.
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New Ikea come in MV meh? 2nd one already in Cheras!

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lol almost every Malaysian dream to have mall near their house. and in your case MV which is among the hottest Mall in Malaysia  icon_idea.gif
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I used to go to Sunway Pyramid , 7km away from my house but more parking ,more chair to relax ,more leisure feeling .
Few years later Paradigm KL within 1km . I want to change my house to homestay liao .
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I used to go to Sunway Pyramid , 7km away from my house but more parking ,more chair to relax ,more leisure feeling .
Few years later Paradigm KL within 1km . I want to change my house to homestay liao .
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Have u all been to One City? Goodness... a total failure (my personal view)
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All related to "ONE" must be a failure ....
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New Ikea come in MV meh? 2nd one already in Cheras!
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Huh when mention ikea at Mv? Cheras ikea near south mah. Easy for south pipu pigi.
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All related to "ONE" must be a failure ....
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1u stil very Ong wor. Apa macam ini?
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1u stil very Ong wor. Apa macam ini?
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QUOTE(HELLO HELLO @ Aug 8 2015, 01:28 AM)
South crowd may go iOi city mall Liao. Why come here?

Also South crowd mostly kena cut by toll before go in bj area. Mostly south crowd head south not much problem. only go north got toll problem.

Most south crowd head to iOi city mall By highway no need pay toll.

Mv itself got enuf crowd to support. With keep on growing okr population and mature pj kl Bangsar and damansara seputeh, Taman desa area. N okr resi head to Mv much much more easy than head to bj area.
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oops forgot to mention ioi city will share the crowd with pavi BJ n paradigma oug n sunwai pyramid icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif As a frequent shopper of IOI, the crowd there is good for weekdays thumbup.gif thumbup.gif also got phase 2 with more shops (esp makan icon_rolleyes.gif icon_rolleyes.gif ) yesterday i was in MV so many tourists n malaysians also, can see the bridge from ecocity to MV for KTM n LRT.. paradigma n pavi takda cry.gif

I still think pavi bj will offer a new experience n will get some south crowd
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Aug 9 2015, 06:50 PM)
oops forgot to mention ioi city will share the crowd with pavi BJ n paradigma oug n sunwai pyramid  icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif As a frequent shopper of IOI, the crowd there is good for weekdays  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif also got phase 2 with more shops (esp makan icon_rolleyes.gif  icon_rolleyes.gif ) yesterday i was in MV so many tourists n malaysians also, can see the bridge from ecocity to MV for KTM n LRT.. paradigma n pavi takda  cry.gif

I still think pavi bj will offer a new experience n will get some south crowd
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Yes, Mv tourists crowd no play play.
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what can we expect from this mall? another ice skating rink maybe? ioi ice skating rink like semut weekend/school hols..
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Looks like there is still no news about this project launching anytime soon ya?

Heard from my friend who works in WCT that they have yet to finalise the artwork and design.

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MV got new eco city to supply more clowd
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Babizz boss, what is your comment on 53 shops closed in Paradigm Kelana Jaya?
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Babizz boss, what is your comment on 53 shops closed in Paradigm Kelana Jaya?
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Hi taikor, not much comment but can jus say that they are struggling to fill up the empty lots which speaks volumes of the performance & situation in this part of town..
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Hi taikor, not much comment but can jus say that they are struggling to fill up the empty lots which speaks volumes of the performance & situation in this part of town..
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it is for neighbourhood mall onli. But once after Empire City complete and Icon City also, damn hard
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it is for neighbourhood mall onli. But once after Empire City complete and Icon City also, damn hard
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Aug 14 2015, 12:27 PM)
i NO confidence with icon city although good access/location although nt good surrounding.. mall manager still more important n lets see wht tenants masuk icon.. empire will absorb/kill many small malls in dsara  brows.gif  brows.gif
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Same here. I got no confident with Icon City... Empire City will not only kill small mall in Damansara, it will highly reduce crowds to 1U as well. cool2.gif cool2.gif

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QUOTE(stevenkkt @ Sep 10 2015, 04:32 AM)
Same here. I got no confident with Icon City... Empire City will not only kill small mall in Damansara, it will highly reduce crowds to 1U as well.  cool2.gif  cool2.gif
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yes but still 8 months till they open.. when they present to me looks like 1/2 floors of mid end fashion, so shld be doing well/ok! rclxm9.gif

Not too late to cancel dis mall.. brows.gif brows.gif
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Awesome project! Direct competitor to Pavilion 2.
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is there a lrt nearby?
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is there a lrt nearby?
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The is a LRT Sri Petaling extension line coming up next Awan Besar Station
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The is a LRT Sri Petaling extension line coming up next Awan Besar Station
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thanks!! do u know how far from paradigm?
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thanks!! do u know how far from paradigm?
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I'm guessing about 1-2km away to the main road at Jalan Awan Besar
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I'm guessing about 1-2km away to the main road at Jalan Awan Besar
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less than 1km for sure...its only few hundred metre..the distance is the width of 7-8 highway lanes + additional 100-200 metres....
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QUOTE(jck1986 @ Sep 17 2015, 02:10 PM)
less than 1km for sure...its only few hundred metre..the distance is the width of 7-8 highway lanes + additional 100-200 metres....
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It's across the highway, depends if got pedestrian bridge over the highway or not. If they have a pedestrian bridge it will be extremely positive news for this development. I think it may be possible.

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built a covered walkway across KESAS to LRT station awan besar and this project will be a success
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I saw the sign board and the land clear on both side,
so both side also WCT land?
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If you refer to wikimapia, both sides are WCT land. That's why project size increase from previous estimate of 40+ acres to 60+ acres. This megaproject is now bigger than bukit jalil city.

This makes a bridge to Awan Besar LRT even more likely as it is even closer. Since WCT is buddy buddy with government I think a link bridge should be likely. However the land around Awan Besar LRT is owned by SM Land. Will the bridge cut through their land? SM land won't allow that most likely.

This may be Mid Valley City, Abdullah Hukum station story all over again. They need to wait for Ecocity to finish developing before link bridge is realised. Same problem here?

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whats your guess on the psf?
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Are there any other developments with walkway across a big highway?
Sounds scary
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Are there any other developments with walkway across a big highway?
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as we cnt walk thru KR2, crossing over to the new site n then crossing to the mall would be around 700m to 1km++ depending on far away the mall is as the land is long n narrow..

A proper aircon bridge would be able to help should it be approved..
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Sep 23 2015, 08:52 PM)
as we cnt walk thru KR2, crossing over to the new site n then crossing to the mall would be around 700m to 1km++ depending on far away the mall is as the land is long n narrow..

A proper aircon bridge would be able to help should it be approved..
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Probably it will be a shuttle bus
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wah the psf.... Zzzzzz
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RM800-900psf.
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RM800-900psf.
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If studio 800psf is OK as long as got bridge to LRT!! hopefully alao with d names of d anchor tenants

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when can we expect the launch of residential ? it is fall under commercial title with HDA ?
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QUOTE(johnleeisme2004 @ Jul 30 2015, 09:04 PM)
Some site photos for the benefit of all.

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The last photo is the lot across the road (Jalan Awan Besar).  Make way for an overhead direct link?

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there's an underpass beneath jln awan besar, before kesas interchange.
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QUOTE(accetera @ Oct 16 2015, 02:07 AM)
RM800-900psf.
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pat gor, open for booking ady?
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I tot this project postpone to 2016?

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last time calll.... havent start sell yet ... after they finish build sales gallery first ...
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First block launch on a more isolated land.
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First block launch on a more isolated land.
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I asked their sales staff last week.
Expecting after CNY
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I asked their sales staff last week.
Expecting after CNY
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Expecting after CNY
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The construction of sales gallery is still on-going
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the showroom still under construction.
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a bit hard to get 1k psf now. maximum rm 800 psf.

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a bit hard to get 1k psf now. maximum rm 800 psf.
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if it's priced at 1000 sf, it will definitely be a tough sale, Pavilion BJ may seemed to be a better bargain then  drool.gif
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Boss, hard to say lo..the skyworld's skyluxe also 8xx~9xx psf..so 1k for paradigm, i think is achievable 1..
Then imo also cn fight with pav...since pav surrounded by all affordable except the park..
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Another mall to fail
Anyway good for consumers to have plenty of choices to shop
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Another mall to fail
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why say fail here? finally sum1 agreeing with me brows.gif brows.gif thrs only so much money n a lot of it has gone online
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Another mall to fail
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Don't simply say fail, unless you know overall of their development. icon_rolleyes.gif
In REIT Wct is also a strong character. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Nov 22 2015, 10:18 PM)
why say fail here? finally sum1 agreeing with me  brows.gif  brows.gif thrs only so much money n a lot of it has gone online
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Will online replace traditional shopping mall? not really in Malaysia. It is easy to replace those commodity products such as Handphone, pc, electrical goods, in which the manufacturers are world renowned brands and quality and functions are assured. Consumers need not touch and feel those products before placing an order.

Online business is very successful in China particularly due to 1) no shopping habit for mainlanders 2) many are not accessible to shopping malls 3) online offers plenty of cheap products

Malaysia has strong shopping culture and it is hard to be replaced.






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Will online replace traditional shopping mall? not really in Malaysia. It is easy to replace those commodity products such as Handphone, pc, electrical goods, in which the manufacturers are world renowned brands and quality and functions are assured. Consumers need not touch and feel those products before placing an order.

Online business is very successful in China particularly due to 1) no shopping habit for mainlanders 2) many are not accessible to shopping malls 3) online offers plenty of cheap products

Malaysia has strong shopping culture and it is hard to be replaced.
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there's no denying the power of e-commerce.
malls would need to be revolutionize to capitalise on the shift of retail spending.
maybe in future, retail malls would be more like a showcase for touch and feel only. transaction would go back to becoming e-commerce.
and malls may provide options of pick-up points instead.
just think about concept of dominos pizza. something like that.
bulk order from delivery, some are pick-up themselves and very rarely dine in occurs.

cheerios!
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QUOTE(ChuiChuiShui @ Nov 22 2015, 05:58 PM)
Boss, hard to say lo..the skyworld's skyluxe also 8xx~9xx psf..so 1k for paradigm, i think is achievable 1..
Then imo also cn fight with pav...since pav surrounded by all affordable except the park..
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I think WCT will wait for skyworld for the final price. If skyluxe really launch at 9xx and sold off. Then WCT will launch at RM 1000. If skyluxe not selling well the price will adjust to lower.
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QUOTE(kochin @ Nov 23 2015, 08:35 AM)
there's no denying the power of e-commerce.
malls would need to be revolutionize to capitalise on the shift of retail spending.
maybe in future, retail malls would be more like a showcase for touch and feel only. transaction would go back to becoming e-commerce.
and malls may provide options of pick-up points instead.
just think about concept of dominos pizza. something like that.
bulk order from delivery, some are pick-up themselves and very rarely dine in occurs.

cheerios!
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koret koret! like it or not the retail revolution is in the middle of changing.
in coming year is more like hybrid concept. like it or not e-commerce getting more powerful in malasia.

the wave is oledi came and now is in the middle of transition time. u will see more half mati/mati malls in future.
many major retail players slow down or stop expending their physical store/shop.

if NEW/old malls want to survive.. they need to add in extra special features/packages to enhance the shopping experience.
for example combine with a big green park, shop under the sea world, the lost world theme...
or combine with big theme park, sport park, antique world, high tech park, outer space gravity free zone, social gathering spot etc.

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koret koret! like it or not the retail revolution is in the middle of changing.
in coming year is more like hybrid concept. like it or not e-commerce getting more powerful in malasia.

the wave is oledi came and now is in the middle of transition time. u will see more half mati/mati malls in future.
many major retail players slow down or stop expending their physical store/shop.

if NEW/old malls want to survive.. they need to add in extra special features/packages to enhance the shopping experience.
for example combine with a big green park, shop under the sea world, the lost world theme...
or combine with big theme park, sport park, antique world, high tech park, outer space gravity free zone, social gathering spot etc.
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Wow. Incredible insight bro. I think WCT, IGB, Sunway and Pavillion must hire you as their retail consultant in order to survive in future. You must guide them gao gao so that eshopping wont tapao their retail business
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biggrin.gif look forward...price bcome 1k psf later  biggrin.gif
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I believe the game is over. No need to rush. Somemore WCT is not in the same league with Pavilion. But then now, the market is really really slow. Plenty of choice coming. Sub sale around the area will flood soon.
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QUOTE(ace77 @ Nov 23 2015, 05:21 PM)
I believe the game is over. No need to rush. Somemore WCT is not in the same league with Pavilion. But then now, the market is really really slow. Plenty of choice coming. Sub sale around the area will flood soon.
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Only certain malls with good concept can survive. Maybe those who work in construction industry or indirectly gain benefits from construction hope to see second waves of golden 5 yrs in malaysia property.

seriously, youngsters now in malaysia all think of property, mlm scheme, forex, direct sales. .. all lazy to put efforts in science and technology, research and development.
Lost decades of Malaysia coming soon.
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QUOTE(ChuiChuiShui @ Nov 22 2015, 06:58 PM)
Boss, hard to say lo..the skyworld's skyluxe also 8xx~9xx psf..so 1k for paradigm, i think is achievable 1..
Then imo also cn fight with pav...since pav surrounded by all affordable except the park..
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they are the developer, they can launch at whatever price. the thing is whether the local folks perceived OKR to be worth 1k psf? secondly, from the investor's perspective, we have to see a potential capital appreciation gain? 1.2k doable? rclxub.gif hmm.gif
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1k Psf quite kisiao price at here. Nearby Manyak newly vp luxury development also hardly can transact rm600psf above Liao. 1k Psf can find manyak manyak better location d.


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1k Psf quite kisiao price at here. Nearby Manyak newly vp luxury development also hardly can transact rm600psf above Liao. 1k Psf can find manyak manyak better location d.
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Is good to see more water fish come into bk jalil.  rclxms.gif
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having said that, Bukit Jalil is close to amenities & we can get into city centre very fast using MEX
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having said that, Bukit Jalil is close to amenities & we can get into city centre very fast using MEX
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There's many places can get into city easily. Bk jalil consider far already. You look at the map yourself. Cheers
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There's many places can get into city easily. Bk jalil consider far already.  You look at the map yourself. Cheers
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If wan compare like that might as well stay at city center
What's the big deal
People buy into built Jalil because they see the future of hukit Jalil
Infracture , upcoming international university , big mall ready in future
Got money then buy lo
No money always there is other option other area to invest
There is no 100% perfect in investment

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QUOTE(dz91 @ Dec 5 2015, 04:54 PM)
If wan compare like that might as well stay at city center
What's the big deal
People buy into built Jalil because they see the future of hukit Jalil
Infracture , upcoming international university , big mall ready in future
Got money then buy lo
No money always there is other option other area to invest
There is no 100% perfect in investment
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Got money just no buy bk jalil. Rich ppl won't like to stay in crowds
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Got money just no buy bk jalil. Rich ppl won't like to stay in crowds
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haha...some people buy BJ because they like it..
personal preferences
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haha...some people buy BJ because they like it..
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I should say except the park. I know many rich buying the Park with big size unit. Other projects ddd
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I should say except the park. I know many rich buying the Park with big size unit.  Other projects ddd
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You're making assumption that Bukit jalil area will be DDD?

Who say rich ppl don't like stay in crowds. How about mont kiara?

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You're making assumption that Bukit jalil area will be DDD?

Who say rich ppl don't like stay in crowds. How about mont kiara?
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Mont kiara got expats. Bukit jalil so far only got locals and some students. More importantly, market outlook not very good and over supply.

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 6 2015, 01:23 PM)
Mont kiara got expats. Bukit jalil so far only got locals and some students. More importantly, market outlook not very good and over supply.
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from your statement, you definitely not familiar with bukit jalil rental market.
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from your statement, you definitely not familiar with bukit jalil rental market.
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Bk jalil got little bit of expats and rental low. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Mont kiara got expats. Bukit jalil so far only got locals and some students. More importantly, market outlook not very good and over supply.
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MK supply quite okay now. Not like other suburban super over supply , bk jalil one of them icon_rolleyes.gif
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Bk jalil got little bit of expats and rental low.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Expats from Nigeria or middle east ? Kekeke ....
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Expats from Nigeria or middle east ? Kekeke ....
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No lar. I have see some ang moh in km1 lar.

But rental surrounding seriously very low.
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No lar. I have see some ang moh in km1 lar.

But rental surrounding seriously very low.
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Yeah kiara residence 2 built up 14xx sf rent out at rm 1700. After closed to 400 maintenance, left with 1300.

Chee sin !
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Yeah kiara residence 2 built up 14xx sf rent out at rm 1700. After closed to 400 maintenance, left with 1300.

Chee sin !
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really?? rental roi lower than landed house...

fast fast buy landed house lo.....
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QUOTE(puchongite @ Dec 6 2015, 03:32 PM)
Yeah kiara residence 2 built up 14xx sf rent out at rm 1700. After closed to 400 maintenance, left with 1300.

Chee sin !
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Is this in mont kiara?

Wow i thiught any condo or studio thr the rental must at least above 2k to 2.5k...

Didnt realize so damn cheap
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Yeah kiara residence 2 built up 14xx sf rent out at rm 1700. After closed to 400 maintenance, left with 1300.

Chee sin !
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Kiara residence and surrounding condo is around there
treez km1 fetch higher ranging 2.5-3k

plus currently market not really tht good, its a buyer's market now...hence its better to put low rent and to secure tenant rather than putting high and compete with god knows how many units
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QUOTE(Iam Power @ Dec 6 2015, 07:25 PM)
Kiara residence and surrounding condo is around there
treez km1 fetch higher ranging 2.5-3k

plus currently market not really tht good, its a buyer's market now...hence its better to put low rent and to secure tenant rather than putting high and compete with god knows how many units
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Which tally and consistent with what I mentioned earlier.

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Z residen fully furnished with nice furniture 2 rooms 1033 sqft RM1.4k.. partial furnished 3 bedroom around 1.6-1.8k. Overall rental is around RM1.4-RM1.7psf depending on furnishing, size etc.. these numbers are current POST LRT completion..

Im giving this numbers to those interested in paradigma investment
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Z residen fully furnished with nice furniture 2 rooms 1033 sqft RM1.4k.. partial furnished 3 bedroom around 1.6-1.8k. Overall rental is around RM1.4-RM1.7psf depending on furnishing, size etc.. these numbers are current POST LRT completion..

Im giving this numbers to those interested in paradigma investment
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Which is bad yield.

It's to do with supply and demand of course. Right?

And what's the occupancy rate?
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Which is bad yield.

It's to do with supply and demand of course. Right?

And what's the occupancy rate?
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The whole klang valley does not have an attractive yield right now. Are there any properties yielding more than 4%?
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The whole klang valley does not have an attractive yield right now. Are there any properties yielding more than 4%?
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Maybe can try look at these few areas:
Bk bintang
Bangsar south
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Maybe can try look at these few areas:
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Bangsar south
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3 or 4 years back I remember many people complaining about the oversupply in MK. But as land in MK got scarce, today, we almost never heard of people worrying about the supply
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QUOTE(Babizz @ Dec 6 2015, 07:55 PM)
Z residen fully furnished with nice furniture 2 rooms 1033 sqft RM1.4k.. partial furnished 3 bedroom around 1.6-1.8k. Overall rental is around RM1.4-RM1.7psf depending on furnishing, size etc.. these numbers are current POST LRT completion..

Im giving this numbers to those interested in paradigma investment
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The rental that you are quoting here may be low for a RM600k+ condo. But if you benchmark the rental against the early investor's buying price, the investment yield may not be that low after all. The waterfish are those who bought at RM 600k+ as an "investment".
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The rental that you are quoting here may be low for a RM600k+ condo. But if you benchmark the rental against the early investor's buying price, the investment yield may not be that low after all. The waterfish are those who bought at RM 600k+ as an "investment".
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The water fish will be those buying now lol.
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3 or 4 years back I remember many people complaining about the oversupply in MK. But as land in MK got scarce, today, we almost never heard of people worrying about the supply
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Comparing to those bk jalil . Okr. Ampang. Cyber. It seen under supply now. Lol
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after all, there are no water fish. areas like Oug and Okr are meant for own stay than rent it out. maybe in future will be different story once paradigm oug and pavillion 2 are ready which catch up different market
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QUOTE(jimmychu80 @ Dec 10 2015, 12:00 PM)
after all, there are no water fish. areas like Oug and Okr are meant for own stay than rent it out. maybe in future will be different story once paradigm oug and pavillion 2 are ready which catch up different market
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Care to tell us why OUG and OKR are meant for own stay than rent out ?

What are the characteristics for such places for own stay ?
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Care to tell us why OUG and OKR are meant for own stay than rent out ?

What are the characteristics for such places for own stay ?
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Because nearby this areas mostly are all old areas and those staying there are like old ppl and family ppl because nearby don't have College or Uni. Been stay here for about 5-6 years, the rental yield doesn't goes up fast enough like others such as PJ or KD.

Other factor is can say all the nearby development the rental are quite low also due to too many new projects completed at that areas especially OKR.
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Bukit OUG area is facing serious oversupply at the moment due to Z Res, Kiara Res 1, Kiara Res 2 VP roughly the same time. Upcoming developement like Casa Green and Rainz will make it worse for that area. It will take many years for demand > supply in that area.

Paradigm in 2019-2020 and Pavi in 2018-2019 completion. MRCB garden city also long way to go. Long term looks bright. Short term rental will likely be suppressed.
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QUOTE(ivanpei @ Dec 10 2015, 01:58 PM)
Bukit OUG area is facing serious oversupply at the moment due to Z Res, Kiara Res 1, Kiara Res 2 VP roughly the same time. Upcoming developement like Casa Green and Rainz will make it worse for that area. It will take many years for demand > supply in that area.

Paradigm in 2019-2020 and Pavi in 2018-2019 completion. MRCB garden city also long way to go. Long term looks bright. Short term rental will likely be suppressed.
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I really hope after LRT extension is fully complete, demand will increase...
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I really hope after LRT extension is fully complete, demand will increase...
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But the supply is ever increasing as time moves on .....

Before the supply is consumed, new supply enters the market ....
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But the supply is ever increasing as time moves on .....

Before the supply is consumed, new supply enters the market ....
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for now supply outweighs demand...bt in future land is scarce, we might see the other way around
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for now supply outweighs demand...bt in future land is scarce, we might see the other way around
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I think occupancy rate Will improve. Many good news coming from bj.
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I think occupancy rate Will improve. Many good news coming from bj.
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Please share some of the good news ? Another new block of service apartment launched ? sweat.gif
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Please share some of the good news ? Another new block of service apartment launched ?  sweat.gif
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I heard the hsr will be there u belip or not kakakkakaka
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I heard the hsr will be there u belip or not kakakkakaka
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Wait for news coming from tpm side....
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Wait for news coming from tpm side....
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If you are referring to the ssp mrt line, it is quite far from Bukit jalil or OUG.
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any updates??
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the show room look almost ready,
i think the developer is still waiting the feng sui master to fix the date to launch
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the show room look almost ready,
i think the developer is still waiting the feng sui master to fix the date to launch
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Last night I saw that all paper removed, and the lights were turned on. Stylish interior design, it's a matter of time when to launch or let internal fat cat sapu first hmm.gif

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ooooo. i wonder what's the pricing gonna be?
probably less than 750psf?
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ooooo. i wonder what's the pricing gonna be?
probably less than 750psf?
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Insider info said above RM 800+ psf ...


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Insider info said above RM 800+ psf ...
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higher than malton? hahaha.
wish them luck then.
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higher than malton? hahaha.
wish them luck then.
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dont later come out become 9xx psf before discount tongue.gif tongue.gif
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higher than malton? hahaha.
wish them luck then.
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Around the same as Malton ... albeit differed by timing of launching.


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higher than malton? hahaha.
wish them luck then.
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Walau they dare launch higher than Malton? If got link bridge to Awan Besar LRT maybe can justify.
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so u prefer malton or wct boss?? pabilion or paradigma ( i predict sogo tongue.gif tongue.gif)
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wct is definitely the underdogs here.
just see what they can spring up lor else the odds to win is in malton's court.

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higher than malton? hahaha.
wish them luck then.
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fei mao gor, ur malton is referring to Malton @ bukit jalil city?
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good news to residence around,

more mall = more competative = more free food/ gift
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good news to residence around,

more mall = more competative = more free food/ gift
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from recent observations, those free / discounted products are generally low quality.
better not to eat so much
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fei mao gor, ur malton is referring to Malton @ bukit jalil city?
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wct is definitely the underdogs here.
just see what they can spring up lor else the odds to win is in malton's court.
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Taikor, why do you think so? Is it because of Malton retail team? Imo Paradigm location better, next to Kesas and closer to Lrt. Wct retail team may not be as powerful as Malton though.

Why not both? 1utama-the Curve relationship?
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Taikor, why do you think so? Is it because of Malton retail team? Imo Paradigm location better, next to Kesas and closer to Lrt. Wct retail team may not be as powerful as Malton though.

Why not both? 1utama-the Curve relationship?
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what you say may be true in terms of sharing the pie, but in terms of who will come out as the clear winner, usually the mountain valley only allows one tiger.

just take curve vs 1 U as example.
if ddmc, i will still pick 1U as more superior. i think it will be clearer once MRT is up and phase 3 plans gets started.

just like malton vs wct.

malton have the parks to generate extra activity to fill the mall.
they also have a track record from their flagship store.
they have their vision as detailed in the youtube video.
and if all else fails, they still have reits to help to stabilise during the infancy years post completion.

while wct is no small boy, they have a higher challenge.
no doubt proximity to lrt is nearer but it's not walking distance per say. hence the rail advantage isn't exactly a distinct advantage here.
i agree on their better location in terms of exposure but if measured in terms of density of population, i think malton site could be better in terms of spending demographics.
wct's hotel and retail track record is there. but ain't no exact sunshine.


but all in all, hopefully both wins lah. better for entire KV mah.
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Very good points. Gut feeling is that Malton Pavi track record and vision seems better. Will have to take a look at WCT master plan. Among their projects, Paradigm OUG is their crown jewel. I don't think they want to get blown out of the water by Pavilion. Hopefully both can coexist. I still think a link bridge to Awan Besar from Wct western parcel is possible. It's a 400M bridge over a highway, I really hope this happens and can give Paradigm an edge. This will make it walkable to LRT.

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I am waiting to see what's the price tag and building design, layout for Paradigm residential suites. Quite interested in it compared to Pavilion II.
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QUOTE(ivanpei @ Jan 11 2016, 03:34 PM)
Very good points. Gut feeling is that Malton Pavi track record and vision seems better. Will have to take a look at WCT master plan. Among their projects, Paradigm OUG is their crown jewel. I don't think they want to get blown out of the water by Pavilion. Hopefully both can coexist. I still think a link bridge to Awan Besar from Wct western parcel is possible. It's a 400M bridge over a highway, I really hope this happens and can give Paradigm an edge. This will make it walkable to LRT.
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Does walkability to LRT an important factor for mall success? Vivamall is also linked to LRT but you see the crowd shakehead.gif
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Does walkability to LRT an important factor for mall success? Vivamall is also linked to LRT but you see the crowd  shakehead.gif
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Viva mall is an furniture based mall with F&B.
Advantage is when they have fair in the halls. Out of jam areas with sufficient parking.
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Lrt is a plus point lar. Public transport is better than no transport. In future Klang Valley residents may choose to go carless when public transport improves like In Singapore/Hk.
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It’s interesting that a lot are saying that BJC mall will be successful because it is by Pavi/Malton group.

I agree that it plays a big part along with the location and infrastructure of the development but a few words of caution…..

We saw the same hype and rationality for MEH for their subsequent products after the success of Empire Subang. Looks at ER and EC now. A certain extent Boss Suite and retail component of ED.

Sunway was always thought to be among the top when it comes to retail. Look at Putra Mall and Velocity now.

When it comes to commercial (or resi banking on the success of commercial elements), we also need to look at consumer trends, how they are evolving due to external forces and make our decisions based on that. More than ever now in today’s environment;

Like how our investment strategy is different now compared to 1-3 years ago. Same goes to these retail management team. If they are going with the same strategy that made Pavi or Paradigm successful, I will be wary. Consumer trend is different now compared to the last 3-5 years and will be different in 2018-2020.
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QUOTE(ck2chan @ Jan 12 2016, 12:40 AM)
Viva mall is an furniture based mall with F&B.
Advantage is when they have fair in the halls. Out of jam areas with sufficient parking.
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there is NO home fairs held at Viva Home nowadays.. u can see those exhibitors like "modern home fair" and MF3 prefers to held the event at Mid Valley or KLCC which have more crowds than Viva.. biggrin.gif

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I think location, demographics and size need to be suitable too, along with competition.

Empire Remix imo is bad because location is simply too far from infra like brt/lrt along with competition from Damen and Summit which are located right next to brt/lrt.

Empire City I thought is doing well? From what I hear alot of high end tenants coming in to Empire City. Sunway Putra Mall is too small and demographics in that area not very good. It's abit of an alang alang sort of mall. Sunway Velocity is facing major competition from Mytown-Ikea combo and that is not good news.

Pavilion BJ is assumed successful by many of us investors because it is sufficiently big with 2 million Sq ft NLA which is huge along with a location that is under served by malls. KL South only has Mid Valley, people from OUG down to Seri Kembangan basically just go to Mid Valley. Pavi BJ/Paradigm OUG are at the perfect location to draw from the under served southern KL market.

The only issue I see now for these 2 malls is competition from each other. Can KL South support these 2 massive developements? Or will there only be 1 winner where the other underperforms?

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QUOTE(Joink @ Jan 12 2016, 09:14 AM)
It’s interesting that a lot are saying that BJC mall will be successful because it is by Pavi/Malton group.

I agree that it plays a big part along with the location and infrastructure of the development but a few words of caution…..

We saw the same hype and rationality for MEH for their subsequent products after the success of Empire Subang. Looks at ER and EC now. A certain extent Boss Suite and retail component of ED.

Sunway was always thought to be among the top when it comes to retail. Look at Putra Mall and Velocity now.

When it comes to commercial (or resi banking on the success of commercial elements), we also need to look at consumer trends,  how they are evolving due to external forces and make our decisions based on that. More than ever now in today’s environment;

Like how our investment strategy is different now compared to 1-3 years ago. Same goes to these retail management team. If they are going with the same strategy that made Pavi or Paradigm successful, I will be wary. Consumer trend is different now compared to the last 3-5 years and will be different in 2018-2020.
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well said!

Putra Mall facilities are recycled from previous yaohan mall.. spent 1 bil to refurbish this mall but tend to ignore the facilities.. yawn.gif

Look what happen to the crowd now.. shakehead.gif

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Lrt is a plus point lar. Public transport is better than no transport. In future Klang Valley residents may choose to go carless when public transport improves like In Singapore/Hk.
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I think location, demographics and size need to be suitable too, along with competition.

Empire Remix imo is bad because location is simply too far from infra like brt/lrt along with competition from Damen and Summit which are located right next to brt/lrt.

Empire City I thought is doing well? From what I hear alot of high end tenants coming in to Empire City. Sunway Putra Mall is too small and demographics in that area not very good. It's abit of an alang alang sort of mall. Sunway Velocity is facing major competition from Mytown-Ikea combo and that is not good news.

Pavilion BJ is assumed successful by many of us investors because it is sufficiently big with 2 million Sq ft NLA which is huge along with a location that is under served by malls. KL South only has Mid Valley, people from OUG down to Seri Kembangan basically just go to Mid Valley. Pavi BJ/Paradigm OUG are at the perfect location to draw from the under served southern KL market.

The only issue I see now for these 2 malls is competition from each other. Can KL South support these 2 massive developements? Or will there only be 1 winner where the other underperforms?
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boss if you know the price quoted for empire city lease you will be shocked. that's how they claim they got alot of big brands in.
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yup if public transport good and add uber or a rejuvenated taxi system. i will forgo a car
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Not easy ler. In Singapore, ppl are always FORCED ( car cost too high ) to take MRT, seldom choose to do so. Nothing beats the flexibility of a car. Unless cost of maintaining car is too high, ppl will still stick to cars. Also, to have a fully developed MRT system in Malaysia might take another 20 years until at least 5 or 6 major lines are completed....otherwise limited connectivity.
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QUOTE(Joink @ Jan 12 2016, 09:14 AM)
It’s interesting that a lot are saying that BJC mall will be successful because it is by Pavi/Malton group.

I agree that it plays a big part along with the location and infrastructure of the development but a few words of caution…..

We saw the same hype and rationality for MEH for their subsequent products after the success of Empire Subang. Looks at ER and EC now. A certain extent Boss Suite and retail component of ED.

Sunway was always thought to be among the top when it comes to retail. Look at Putra Mall and Velocity now.

When it comes to commercial (or resi banking on the success of commercial elements), we also need to look at consumer trends,  how they are evolving due to external forces and make our decisions based on that. More than ever now in today’s environment;

Like how our investment strategy is different now compared to 1-3 years ago. Same goes to these retail management team. If they are going with the same strategy that made Pavi or Paradigm successful, I will be wary. Consumer trend is different now compared to the last 3-5 years and will be different in 2018-2020.
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boss, am not saying bjc will succeed due to pavi/malton name lah.
retail should technically be based on hardware and software.

hardware, the mall itself must be designed to cater to shopper's need.
eg. ingress, egress, ease of flowing within the mall, size, escalators position, etc.

software is where the external factors that makes the mall great.
eg. the tenants, the surrounding, events, etc.


so take your points for instance,
location - i will check this box as ivan boss mentioned, i think the demographics here deserve a mall
infrastructure - i will also check this box because the infra is relatively good surrounding it
track record - as what you mentioned for sunway, at least they have done something before lor. past experience is not a necessity but it helps to eliminate pass errors at least
consumer trends - this goes to not just new malls but existing malls as well


all in all, i think they have a fighting chance of being a success rather than a doomed prediction from day 1.


and a funny thing in malaysia. apparently for shopping malls, size matters. lol.

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QUOTE(HarpArtist @ Jan 12 2016, 10:00 AM)
boss if you know the price quoted for empire city lease you will be shocked. that's how they claim they got alot of big brands in.
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HarpArtist boss, am not surprise. When MidValley first opened, Carrefour was renting for <5psf and for Empire Subang, it was either free rental for a couple of months or similar rates if my memory serves me right.

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No worries Kochin boss. Not referring to your comments specifically but the general comments in the forum. Overall your points are solid. Just cautioning investors not to blindly buy purely based on the mall management team for the reasons stated in my previous post.

BJC is definitely a better mall product but as you mentioned, it is a fighting chance and not a sure shot. Hence it might not be wise to bank all your investment upside on this. Even if Paradigm does not perform well, a half-bake mall still bring values and if you couple this with a LRT station that is walking distance……residential units around Paradigm might be a better proposition to renters compared to BJC from an investment pov.

Agree on your comment on existing mall for consumer trend, Sunway Pyramid footfall used to be the highest a couple of years back. Not anymore…...maybe early indication of a complacent management team bundled with too many competition resulting in what we see in Putra Mall and Velocity. If you have the raw data, you can run a regression chart to see which variable holds more water.

P.S - Honestly have not made any sit visits to both these 2 areas nor vested but talking crap.

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From location alone and infra I like Paradigm. However when it comes to residential attached to a mall, mall branding/class plays a major factor.

If Pavi BJ ends up with tenants like LV, Gucci, Prada and friends, it has sky high "class" value. Wct does not seem to have the pedigree or pull to be able to secure those type of tenants for Paradigm OUG imo. Let's have a look at their masterplan lar. The Pavilion Masterplan and video/vision images are very impressive.
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QUOTE(Joink @ Jan 12 2016, 02:24 PM)
No worries Kochin boss. Not referring to your comments specifically but the general comments in the forum. Overall your points are solid. Just cautioning investors not to blindly buy purely based on the mall management team for the reasons stated in my previous post.

BJC is definitely a better mall product but as you mentioned, it is a fighting chance and not a sure shot. Hence it might not be wise to bank all your investment upside on this. Even if Paradigm does not perform well, a half-bake mall still bring values and if you couple this with a LRT station that is walking distance……residential units around Paradigm might be a better proposition to renters compared to BJC from an investment pov.

Agree on your comment on existing mall for consumer trend, Sunway Pyramid footfall used to be the highest a couple of years back. Not anymore…...maybe early indication of a complacent management team bundled with too many competition resulting in what we see in Putra Mall and Velocity. If you have the raw data, you can run a regression chart to see which variable holds more water.

P.S - Honestly have not made any sit visits to both these 2 areas nor vested but talking crap.
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walking distance to LRT with big highway in between ?? shocking.gif shocking.gif
if no link bridge are built , how near it is with the lrt also got no use blush.gif
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HarpArtist boss, am not surprise. When MidValley first opened, Carrefour was renting for <5psf and for Empire Subang, it was either free rental for a couple of months or similar rates if my memory serves me right.
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carrefour is big tenant, of course they get great rates. im just a small ant working for a small fish. someone up there mention lv prada gucci. if they go confirmed doomed mall. who gonna buy that in BJ??
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Based on Malton Pavi BJ "vision" thats the kind of tenants they are planning to attract wor.

I'm also quite worried if they can do it or not. Quite hard to imagine. But who knows what 2018 will be like lar. Mana tahu.

Looking at the design of the mall and hiring expensive foreign architects (Leonard Design) and their luxury concept, I don't think this will be IOI or Pyramid type grade mall only. Seems like Malton got higher end aims for this project wor.

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walking distance to LRT with big highway in between ?? shocking.gif  shocking.gif
if no link bridge are built , how near it is with the lrt also got no use  blush.gif
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so far fr success of recent/upcoming mall..paradigm is winning with paradigma south gd tenants vs lousy tenants in damen BUT

Pabilion will get MOST major fashion anchors.. para will struggle without the key crowd pullers as they will either be HERE or there. I bliv LRT will be a small factor being 400m++ away (try walking 400m*2 in a bridge over a bz highway).
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QUOTE(ivanpei @ Jan 12 2016, 03:52 PM)
Based on Malton Pavi BJ "vision" thats the kind of tenants they are planning to attract wor.

I'm also quite worried if they can do it or not. Quite hard to imagine. But who knows what 2018 will be like lar. Mana tahu.

Looking at the design of the mall and hiring expensive foreign architects (Leonard Design) and their luxury concept, I don't think this will be IOI or Pyramid type grade mall only. Seems like Malton got higher end aims for this project wor.
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I have high confidence on Pavilion BJ mall than the Paradigm OUG mall, prolly or porbably both different segment.

Pavilion BJ already secured all the mall tenants and hearsay the package is good, I dunno how good is good for a branded retailer, get this info from my relative who working in cosmetic company and in charge of the rental / retail.

Asssesibility wise and location wise, I tend to believe Paradigm OUG is better and upper hand, provided the infra is nicely do up. But Pavilion BJ offer wide range of catchment target or population from it's location and pull as far as Puchong Jaya side.


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Most importantly don't have to pay toll from Puchong to Pavi BJ through Bj highway. Kesas need to pay toll. Hahahahaha!

Can hint hint what tenants already secured? Wow Malton quite power, so early already secured tenants!

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Will Pavi BJ tenants will be somehow similar to Pavi KL tenants? hmm.gif
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Will Pavi BJ tenants will be somehow similar to Pavi KL tenants?  hmm.gif
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If not mistaken, i read from somewhere before in forum said that 60% of tenants from Pav BB will also open in Pav BJ. Cant really remember the exact %. sad.gif
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Nearby Pav BJ property mostly not cheap. So the crowd for luxury brands will be there. Although not majority but the minority spending power might be high.

Quality more than quantity.
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The kinda anchors that we may expect in PBJ.


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Some of the Pavilion Bukit Jalil potential key tenants.

1. Food Republic (it could be the biggest outlet)
2. Golden Screen Cinemas
3. Parkson
4. Cold Storage
5. Padini Concept Store
6. Uniqlo
7. Harvey Norman
8. Daiso
9. Red Box
10. Times Bookstore
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If not mistaken, i read from somewhere before in forum said that 60% of tenants from Pav BB will also open in Pav BJ. Cant really remember the exact %.  sad.gif
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It is normal for a mall to drag their client to the new mall. Typical example is klcc and alamanda. Of coz exclude those branded ones la.

I think.most of the branded stores in kl are not paying or pay minimal rent. Money is not made not from these shops but those mid range shops
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For comparison, how big are Paradigm OUG and Pavi BJ respectively?
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Both malls are more than 2 mil Sq ft NLA. For comparison, Pavi Bukit Bintang is 1.5 mil Nla. They are similar in size. Bukit Jalil City is a 50 acre project, Paradigm OUG is a 60 acre project. Similar size lar.

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Not to forget MRCB land is even bigger...let's sit back and watch the show.
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Not to forget MRCB land is even bigger...let's sit back and watch the show.
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Yeap MRCB parcel 90 acre, even bigger! And direct link to 2 lrt stations. MRCB's parcel is the best of the best. Still long way to go though. Still doing Bukit Jalil stadium refurbishment. I think launch/ work start in the main project in 2018 onwards nia imo.

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Yeap MRCB parcel 90 acre, even bigger! And direct link to 2 lrt stations. MRCB's parcel is the best of the best. Still long way to go though. Still doing Bukit Jalil stadium refurbishment. I think launch/ work start in the main project in 2018 onwards nia imo.
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It's so lucky MRCB have no plan to launch in 2016! Look at the property market now, developer mostly go for affordable "SIZE" and "PRICING" in order to capture the buyers. By the time of 2018, by right Malaysia economy should have already recovered. If the economy in Malaysia still haven't recovered (same as 2015 & 2016) in 2018, then we will all DOOM! By that time, we are all beggar liao! rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Jan 12 2016, 04:38 PM)
I have high confidence on Pavilion BJ mall than the Paradigm OUG mall, prolly or porbably both different segment.

Pavilion BJ already secured all the mall tenants and hearsay the package is good, I dunno how good is good for a branded retailer, get this info from my relative who working in cosmetic company and in charge of the rental / retail.

Asssesibility wise and location wise, I tend to believe Paradigm OUG is better and upper hand, provided the infra is nicely do up. But Pavilion BJ offer wide range of catchment target or population from it's location and pull as far as Puchong Jaya side.
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I too have high confidence in this area.

successful malls with nearby park will drive people to shift to this area and live, which will help the nearby commercials. a symbiotic relationship I would say.
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QUOTE(Yamy @ Jan 14 2016, 08:39 PM)
It's so lucky MRCB have no plan to launch in 2016! Look at the property market now, developer mostly go for affordable "SIZE" and "PRICING" in order to capture the buyers. By the time of 2018, by right Malaysia economy should have already recovered. If the economy in Malaysia still haven't recovered (same as 2015 & 2016) in 2018, then we will all DOOM! By that time, we are all beggar liao!  rclxub.gif
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you mean mrcb not launching in BJ only or they are not launching anything at all in 2016?
2018 election year mah. so die die also should have some incentives by 2017/2018.
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QUOTE(kochin @ Jan 15 2016, 08:49 AM)
you mean mrcb not launching in BJ only or they are not launching anything at all in 2016?
2018 election year mah. so die die also should have some incentives by 2017/2018.
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Me just guessing only for 2017/18 launching. With such a big parcel and the deal just sealed last year, Sure they have to think very carefully for the whole project planning or else they might be facing more competition with paradigm and pavi.

Probably any taikor here have any insights of MRCB project?

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From what I read form articles. Right now all work focus on 2017 sea games refurbishment. Then after that only land title partially transfered to Mrcb. After phase 2 which is up to 2020, only they will get all the land.

So most probably earliest they will launch in 2018 after they get their first parcel.
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Heard that WCT will launch their OUG project after CNY...Expected PSF is around RM 700 psf to RM 900 psf depending on unit size.
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QUOTE(weisun @ Feb 3 2016, 03:45 PM)
Heard that WCT will launch their OUG project after CNY...Expected PSF is around RM 700 psf to RM 900 psf depending on unit size.
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Twin arkz subsale small units asking 950 psf. Mont Jalil liaw.
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Perhaps after 2017, average PSF for new development in OUG area & Bukit Jalil area will reach RM 1000 psf.
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Heard that WCT will launch their OUG project after CNY...Expected PSF is around RM 700 psf to RM 900 psf depending on unit size.
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The whole project called "PARADIGM Garden City". rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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Are you sure? From hoardings it's Paradigm Kuala Lumpur. Garden city working name for the MRCB project in BJ.
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Are you sure? From hoardings it's Paradigm Kuala Lumpur. Garden city working name for the MRCB project in BJ.
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I saw from their new showroom at OUG KL. biggrin.gif
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I saw from their new showroom at OUG KL.  biggrin.gif
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Wa nice! Why copy mrcb??? Now mrcb need to change name?

Any info on the Paradigm bro?
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Wa nice! Why copy mrcb??? Now mrcb need to change name?

Any info on the Paradigm bro?
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I saw from their new showroom at OUG KL.  biggrin.gif
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Heard that WCT will launch their OUG project after CNY...Expected PSF is around RM 700 psf to RM 900 psf depending on unit size.
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If it is at RM700 - RM900 psf, I would say it is not expensive. The price in Bukit Jalil area has really soared up very high. Also, if we look at The Azure at Paradigm Kelana Jaya, it is selling at Rm1,000++ psf.

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market very cold... don't think will reach 1k psf...
WCT may delay further again?
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For FY16, the group is targeting to sell RM600 million worth of properties, with the maiden launch of its OUG mixed development project, The Paradigm Gardens City. The first project in OUG is a residential tower, R2, with an estimated gross development value of RM300 million or RM850 per sq ft.

WCT might unveil another residential block, R4, in the fourth quarter of 2016, if the demand is good. We understand that its 60-acre (24.3ha) OUG land will have eight blocks consisting condominiums, offices and a mall.

http://www.theedgeproperty.com.my/my/conte...2-bil-jobs-2016
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QUOTE(accetera @ Feb 17 2016, 02:08 PM)
For FY16, the group is targeting to sell RM600 million worth of properties, with the maiden launch of its OUG mixed development project, The Paradigm Gardens City. The first project in OUG is a residential tower, R2, with an estimated gross development value of RM300 million or RM850 per sq ft.

WCT might unveil another residential block, R4, in the fourth quarter of 2016, if the demand is good. We understand that its 60-acre (24.3ha) OUG land will have eight blocks consisting condominiums, offices and a mall.

http://www.theedgeproperty.com.my/my/conte...2-bil-jobs-2016
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this paradigm gardens city sit on the higher land (if i not mistaken), the highest floor of the service apartment has the best view
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RM 850 psf still acceptable.
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850 psf... let see the overall masterplan and absolute price
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850 psf... let see the overall masterplan and absolute price
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I watched their master plan model before.
Have interchange at Kesas Highway
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I watched their master plan model before.
Have interchange at Kesas Highway
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The connecting bridge is under their plan? It might be an additional marks if there is a connecting bridge. Twin Arkz almost comes to completion, upcoming Skyluxe, Paradigm OUG, The Park Sky, future KM2 and Link2 Phase2. Can RM850psf sustain the current trending of oversupply in BJ?
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QUOTE(Jason Lim1105 @ Feb 17 2016, 11:30 PM)
The connecting bridge is under their plan? It might be an additional marks if there is a connecting bridge. Twin Arkz almost comes to completion, upcoming Skyluxe, Paradigm OUG, The Park Sky, future KM2 and Link2 Phase2. Can RM850psf sustain the current trending of oversupply in BJ?
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Perhaps after 2017, average PSF for new development in OUG area & Bukit Jalil area will reach RM 1000 psf.
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When the malls+offices complete, demand > supply then maybe got chance BJ/OUG become Mont Kiara 2.0 lar. 1000 psf possible assuming economy is good. MK oversupply also expensive like @#@&^*.

But now economy like crap who knows when will recover. Pass by showroom that day, looks almost completed. Shoud start selling soon. Now still very mysterious no masterplan for public yet.

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the price RM1000psf can be achieved when a place of chicken rice is RM10.

not impossible under our current gomen.
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Paradigm Mall Garden City
Type A 950sf
Type B 1087sf
Type C 1250sf
Type D 1685sf
Penthouse A1 - 3512sf
Penthouse A - 3512sf
Penthouse B - 3360sf

Comfirmed

Price ?
950psft .

Discount ?
10%-13% average

Furnish ?
Partial

Total summary
Overprice + Not worth to invest

Other option
Pavilion The Park Sky
Z Resident
Exsim The Rain
The Link 2
The Link 2 (phase 2)
Km1 East

Good Luck BJ folks !!!

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QUOTE(Mr.Swee @ Feb 28 2016, 11:53 PM)
Paradigm Mall Garden City
Type A 950sf
Type B 1087sf
Type C 1250sf
Type D 1685sf
Penthouse A1 - 3512sf
Penthouse A - 3512sf
Penthouse B - 3360sf

Comfirmed

Price ?
950psft .

Discount ?
10%-13% average

Furnish ?
Partial

Total summary
Overprice + Not worth to invest

Other option
Pavilion The Park Sky
Z Resident
Exsim The Rain
The Link 2
The Link 2 (phase 2)
Km1 East

Good Luck BJ folks !!!
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Wa Lao eh!!! If your info is true then it will be easily 820 sqft and the cheapest unit will be min 780k for the smallest unit!!! What a big appetite for WCT in this sluggish timing.

Can't wait to see the launching sales will still be BBB or DDD!
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Wow pricing 1k psf breached d in this area for the small units.
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RM1k psf in this timing? Then Pavi BJC buyers gonna be happy.
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QUOTE(Mr.Swee @ Feb 28 2016, 11:53 PM)
Paradigm Mall Garden City
Type A 950sf
Type B 1087sf
Type C 1250sf
Type D 1685sf
Penthouse A1 - 3512sf
Penthouse A - 3512sf
Penthouse B - 3360sf

Comfirmed

Price ?
950psft .

Discount ?
10%-13% average

Furnish ?
Partial

Total summary
Overprice + Not worth to invest

Other option
Pavilion The Park Sky
Z Resident
Exsim The Rain
The Link 2
The Link 2 (phase 2)
Km1 East

Good Luck BJ folks !!!
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Pavilion The Park Sky still got available unit??

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Wa Lao eh!!! If your info is true then it will be easily 820 sqft and the cheapest unit will be min 780k for the smallest unit!!!  What a big appetite for WCT in this sluggish timing.

Can't wait to see the launching sales will still be BBB or DDD!
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really wa lao eh!!

950sf x 850psf = 807k

what material used? 800k for a 950sf smallest unit...

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Wow.. so cheap and so affordable... Price is just slightly more than Bangsar South and still lower than KL Sentral....

Cheap ah.. cheong ah

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Nope no more
Park sky achieve 100% fully sold smile.gif
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Now is coffee time to watch the show!
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850 psf ok la, if go overseas and sell to foreigners its 25% cheaper than few years ago
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average transacted price for KM1 and treez average is RM 650 psf. RM 820 I think a bit hard for them to sell. It the price RM 750 psf will be better.
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Parksky has below 30 units 2bedders still available, 868-953sf, price range 847k-976k before 5+5 rebate. The info is from Malton sales office handout. Paradigm pricing seems to be similar.
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Nope no more
Park sky achieve 100% fully sold smile.gif
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it was sold out at 750psf ?
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Research house estimate launch in March. Means this month?


http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kenangaresearch/92173.jsp

Despite weak property sentiment and outlook, management is maintaining an optimistic view, banking on a recovery in 2H16. Hence, management has set a higher sales target of RM600m, which is 60% higher compared to its FY15 actual sales of RM373m. While management did not disclose the total value of its planned launches for the year, we believe they would be leveraging on its upcoming development in OUG, i.e. Paradigm Garden City, where they will be launching RM450m GDV worth of condominium in 1Q16 and followed by Phase 2 of the project with an estimated GDV of RM950m in 4Q16. While we maintain our cautious outlook on the property market, we believe that WCT’s sales target is realisable should they price their products competitively.


http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/hleresearch/92194.jsp

Challenging property outlook. FY15 property sales of RM373m fell 19% YoY with unbilled sales at RM599m (1.8x cover on FY15 property revenue). WCT is targeting for RM600m worth of property sales this year. In March, it will be launching a condo block (GDV: RM480m) at the Paradigm Garden City, OUG with indicative pricing at RM800-850psf. We reckon that WCT’s sales target could prove to be an uphill task and retain our lower assumption of RM400m.

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Selling price start from 750psf after rebate
Some unit even reach up to 1k PSF ( for higher floor unit )
My unit block D high floor also buying at 890psf after rebate
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Yup
Selling price start from 750psf after rebate
Some unit even reach up to 1k PSF ( for higher floor unit )
My unit block D high floor also buying at 890psf after rebate
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investment? can target 1100psf after VP...
how large is ur unit?
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Research house estimate launch in March. Means this month?
http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/kenangaresearch/92173.jsp

Despite weak property sentiment and outlook, management is maintaining an optimistic view, banking on a recovery in 2H16. Hence, management has set a higher sales target of RM600m, which is 60% higher compared to its FY15 actual sales of RM373m. While management did not disclose the total value of its planned launches for the year, we believe they would be leveraging on its upcoming development in OUG, i.e. Paradigm Garden City, where they will be launching RM450m GDV worth of condominium in 1Q16 and followed by Phase 2 of the project with an estimated GDV of RM950m in 4Q16. While we maintain our cautious outlook on the property market, we believe that WCT’s sales target is realisable should they price their products competitively.
http://klse.i3investor.com/blogs/hleresearch/92194.jsp

Challenging property outlook. FY15 property sales of RM373m fell 19% YoY with unbilled sales at RM599m (1.8x cover on FY15 property revenue). WCT is targeting for RM600m worth of property sales this year. In March, it will be launching a condo block (GDV: RM480m) at the Paradigm Garden City, OUG with indicative pricing at RM800-850psf. We reckon that WCT’s sales target could prove to be an uphill task and retain our lower assumption of RM400m.
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i mus say gud luck to wct if they r selling at tis price. i m a buyer of park sky. old timers shud know malton have to mark up park sky 10-20% due to their legal dispute wit hohup. n i think the higher premium is worth it for own stay ppl bcoz of proximity to pavillion mall n bj park. investment perspect, i dun think malton project will offer any upside upon vp...maybe 3 to 5% tops bcoz bj hav no affluent population like the expats to support tis price. n now wct wanna cop carrot! 800psf in oug!

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investment? can target 1100psf after VP...
how large is ur unit?
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Type b1 with balcony
Mostly for ownstay smile.gif
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QUOTE(richardkong @ Mar 1 2016, 01:55 PM)
i mus say gud luck to wct if they r selling at tis price. i m a buyer of park sky. old timers shud know malton have to mark up park sky 10-20% due to their legal dispute wit hohup. n i think the higher premium is worth it for own stay ppl bcoz of proximity to pavillion mall n bj park. investment perspect, i dun think malton project will offer any upside upon vp...maybe 3 to 5% tops bcoz bj hav no affluent population like the expats to support tis price. n now wct wanna cop carrot! 800psf in oug!
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Y make up due to legal dispute? i tot settled oredi?? I am young timer kekeke...
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Type b1 with balcony
Mostly for ownstay smile.gif
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I saw the showroom. Master plan and model all ready. (only waiting for the pretty models drool.gif ) It could launch very soon. rclxms.gif

i want nice food, drinks and wash eyes ... money gua tak ada...


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Dun think it is very good for investment ....
Not much to appreciate

For staying, unless u wouldn't mind the super duper awful jam, i guess the chinese area still quite appealing, but i would rather stay further

Im staying nearby and tbh, i really hate the morning jam
Just that particular road leading to MRR2
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No affluent population.... yet!

When the malls and offices here are ready the affluent crowd will come. Same like 1utama, curve and Damansara lar.
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Wait until Malton, WCT and MRCB project all completed then we will see the REAL Bukit Jalil. By then, it will be after 2020 lo...the time Malaysia transform to HIGH INCOME country....I hope so!
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When they wanna launch it??? The sales gallery seem all ready
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many old uncle unties in oug very rich one.
look at those old Semi D there
each selling average RM2mil, then can buy lol.

some more got plenty cash in the banks.
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QUOTE(Joe wong @ Mar 6 2016, 10:15 AM)
When they wanna launch it??? The sales gallery seem  all ready
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Is the Sales Gallery ready for visitors to visit?
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dunno but i saw few passenger cars park inside the showroom compound, and the showroom lights are on too
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sunday I will go and check for you ah.
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Yes, showroom open for visitor. Just overview of entire project. Phase 1 condo plan launching around June according to SA.
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Just dropped by today. Showroom is open daily for visitors. The showroom is huge with very high ceiling. There is a miniature in the center where you can have a glimpse of what the whole project will look like. Quite impressive I must say. According to the SA, this year alone they will launch 3 condo projects. The 1st one is on the smaller plot at OUG side, separated by Jalan Awan Besar from the main plot. Indicative psf is RM800~RM850. From the miniature, one can see that WCT is prepared to invest to upgrade the infrastructure around the Bukit Jalil interchange on top of Kesas Highway. I could see some new overhead bridge flying from one side of Kesas Highway to the other. Hopefully this is not just some marketing gimmick to lure potential buyers.

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They have to lar, for the sake of their mall. If access jialat, their mall jialat also. Good news for the area! I will try to drop by tomorrow and take a look.
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tat r2 plot has tip top access
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tat r2 plot has tip top access
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Must be kidding me. Tats bottleneck area.
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Another toll skip road. Thanks
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Just went. Very impressed. Have 4 block of condo R1 to r4. R1 closest to mall. The rest is about 10-15 min walk. R2 first to launch in June. 950-1800 sq ft sizes.

I am most happy about the access have ingress and egress in both direction to kesas through dedicated links. Also have ingress and egress to both jalan barat towards sri petaling and also jalan awan besar. About 4 pairs of ingress/ egress. Connectivity and traffic flow is excellent. The bridge across kesas to awan besar lrt is proposed either buggy or pedestrian, not confirmed yet.
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Waltz Residences (right)

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Others / k1 plot commercial / newly acquired additional 12 acres in white boxes

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Looks like oug properties getting a boost
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QUOTE(ivanpei @ Mar 13 2016, 04:51 PM)
Just went. Very impressed.  Have 4 block of condo R1 to r4. R1 closest to mall. The rest is about 10-15 min walk. R2 first to launch in June.  950-1800 sq ft sizes. 

I am most happy about the access  have ingress and egress in both direction to kesas through dedicated links.  Also have ingress and egress to both jalan barat towards sri petaling and also jalan awan besar. About 4 pairs of ingress/ egress.  Connectivity and traffic flow is excellent.  The bridge across kesas to awan besar lrt is proposed either buggy or pedestrian, not confirmed yet.
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Do they allow public visitors to walk in?
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Do they allow public visitors to walk in?
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I just went. Anyone can walk in.
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Yes can walk in and register. They will brief you the project. The showroom only ready in June.

Yes look impress of the mall, however WALTZ if opposite the building of selling RM 820 psf no so attractive.
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fair price is around 600psf, perhaps after rebate is around that range...
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fair price is around 600psf, perhaps after rebate is around that range...
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If it is selling at 600psf, it will be a very good buy. At its location and looking at other projects sold by WCT, don't think the price after rebate can be RM600psf.

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R2 is the plot beside OG Heights?
Commercial title under HDA?

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look at those picture been shared, one of it look like link to LRT, but it's not covered so do that means WCT try to have an elevated feeder bus service?
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look at those picture been shared, one of it look like link to LRT, but it's not covered so do that means WCT try to have an elevated feeder bus service?
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syiok if have a elevated, air-conditioned and covered walkway to the LRT... like bukit bintang
WCT willing to do this? possible ar? laugh.gif

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Good, 800 psf onward and I think they expect the whole project will hit 1K in the mid of development.. condo surrounding there still got potential to hit another all time height in psf? Yes? No?

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judging by the shear size of the project, if first launch got stuck, then they are in for a very rough ride.
might as well just reward early buyers with some 'too hard to resist' deal lah.
azure at 788k 2 cp still not clear yet.

maybe 650psf is indeed what the 1st launch price with bigger size ought to be.
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success or failure of the mall determines the eventual end value of the property...despite its central location & PJ fantastic population Azure is still a tough sell and even prime lot within the mall are not tenanted for up to 9 months hence i don't foresee Paradigm OUG will do well. Mall operation is a rather special business, many people try to run one but only those who are really in this line of business mange to survive, and survival doesn't necessarily equal success

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QUOTE(kochin @ Mar 14 2016, 04:10 PM)
judging by the shear size of the project, if first launch got stuck, then they are in for a very rough ride.
might as well just reward early buyers with some 'too hard to resist' deal lah.
azure at 788k 2 cp still not clear yet.

maybe 650psf is indeed what the 1st launch price with bigger size ought to be.
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true la, the land only cost RM 180 psf purchase on 2012, even selling rm 650 psf also earn a lot already (estimate the construction cost RM 350 psf). MAy be they use the money to built the shopping mall.
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I also wish lar 650 psf. But no way they sell so cheap.

I think hinted it's 850 psf d for r2. Which is a not so good block separated by road. R1 confirm more expensive.

If really 850 psf I think sales will be slow and we can expect r1, r3 and r4 to launch much much later. This may be a long staggered sales approach. All R1 to r4 are freehold residential so the unit sizes are big 950 sq ft and up. This means lowest entry is something like min 800k which is extremely steep.

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There is a chance they will go for lower price ( <RM800/sft, target around RM600-RM700) due to the market sentiment in order to create BBB for their 1st phase launching.

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if after discount at 800psf, it is a suicide. They've obviously didn't consider the market surrounding the dev. Hope their marketing team is not that f up.

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if all ppl unity dont buy, surely it will drop price....
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Block sale / bulk purchase at RM780psf ok boh?
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Block sale / bulk purchase at RM780psf ok boh?
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After or before discount/rebate? biggrin.gif
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Waa, boss, then not ok for me liao, 780psf higher than Park Sky leh. sad.gif
Btw, now start gather bulk purchaser ah?
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Net....
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Went there yesterday afternoon, SA informed that under their 1st Phase development plan which is the Waltz Residence condominium, there are 4 units of size for selection ie: 956sf, 1080sf, 1250sf, and 1687sf.
Indicative Selling Price is minimum RM 800psf and ABOVE!! (Actual Pricing will be announced in June 2016 during official Launch)

Info: Paradigm OUG Mall will start building in year 2018.
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Went there yesterday afternoon, SA informed that under their 1st Phase development plan which is the Waltz Residence condominium, there are 4 units of size for selection ie: 956sf, 1080sf, 1250sf, and 1687sf.
Indicative Selling Price is minimum RM 800psf and ABOVE!!  (Actual Pricing will be announced in June 2016 during official Launch)

Info: Paradigm OUG Mall will start building in year 2018.
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wow.. start build 2018?
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wow.. start build 2018?
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Usually in S&P, construction time is how long?
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The residential phase completed earlier than the mall. SA told me 2021 for the mall.
Is WCT do not have enough confident on this project? confused.gif

I think Malton is much more confident on their BJC? Mall 2019, Park Sky 2020. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(weisun @ Mar 21 2016, 10:11 AM)
Went there yesterday afternoon, SA informed that under their 1st Phase development plan which is the Waltz Residence condominium, there are 4 units of size for selection ie: 956sf, 1080sf, 1250sf, and 1687sf.
Indicative Selling Price is minimum RM 800psf and ABOVE!!  (Actual Pricing will be announced in June 2016 during official Launch)

Info: Paradigm OUG Mall will start building in year 2018.
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Hopefully the minimum price of RM800psf is the price before developer's rebate. If this is the price after rebate, then WCT is really looking for a hard time for themselves to sell.

Looking at the current property market, I think the fair price after rebate to sell should be around RM700psf. If the developer could offer a 12-13% rebate from RM800psf, that will be good enough.


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nowadays BJ itself already got lot of project, buyer also confuse !! Pavillion got mall, WCT got mall, berjaya got mall, anymore mall here?
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Berjaya just a small retail lot below, do not think really a mall.
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Berjaya has proposed another new phase of The Link 2... also with retail shoplex.

Supposedly the shoplex "mall" here reminds me of the one at Icon City.
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Hopefully the minimum price of RM800psf is the price before developer's rebate. If this is the price after rebate, then WCT is really looking for a hard time for themselves to sell.

Looking at the current property market, I think the fair price after rebate to sell should be around RM700psf. If the developer could offer a 12-13% rebate from RM800psf, that will be good enough.
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could not agree more!
800psf after rebate will have a hard time and they have future 3 or 4 blocks...
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i really like the way they separated the component.

presumably waltz residence is phase 1?

having only the hotel and corporate tower near the mall is a good move.
residences being scattered by the surrounding instead of bundling everything.

comparatively i prefer the master planning of this vs malton's.

and now, the million dollar question.

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i really like the way they separated the component.

presumably waltz residence is phase 1?

having only the hotel and corporate tower near the mall is a good move.
residences being scattered by the surrounding instead of bundling everything.

comparatively i prefer the master planning of this vs malton's.

and now, the million dollar question.

$$$?
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On the magazine, they've highlighted WALKING DISTANCE to LRT. But if you look at the overall design of ingress and egress, how the heck can someone walk over to the LRT staton? haha
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On the magazine, they've highlighted WALKING DISTANCE to LRT. But if you look at the overall design of ingress and egress, how the heck can someone walk over to the LRT staton? haha
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Walking distant from OUG to Bukit Jalil? hmmmmm...
That is possible!! last time the monk Tang Sanzang also walk from the east to the west. hahahaha!

by the way...I think this is talking about the proposed pedestrian or buggy link, then it could be really the walking distant.
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How much psf they selling at Waltz Residence.
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The residential phase completed earlier than the mall. SA told me 2021 for the mall.
Is WCT do not have enough confident on this project?  confused.gif

I think Malton is much more confident on their BJC? Mall 2019, Park Sky 2020. hmm.gif
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I will be very careful when developer claim will start their mall in later stage where the investment decision is partly based on the success of the mall.

you see icon city mahsing no news on the phase 2 already...
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This Waltz is like an island woh.
I see their plan none of the residence block have the joint bridge to their mall ...... bruce.gif
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On the magazine, they've highlighted WALKING DISTANCE to LRT. But if you look at the overall design of ingress and egress, how the heck can someone walk over to the LRT staton? haha
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Walking distant from OUG to Bukit Jalil? hmmmmm...
That is possible!! last time the monk Tang Sanzang also walk from the east to the west. hahahaha!

by the way...I think this is talking about the proposed pedestrian or buggy link, then it could be really the walking distant.
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i think it's referred to as selected point, then transit vide buggy or shuttle buses.
paradigm kelana also have shuttle buses presently.


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This Waltz is like an island woh.
I see their plan none of the residence block have the joint bridge to their mall ...... bruce.gif
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in terms of distance, it does seems far. hence a pedestrian linkage although possible but might not be ideal also since if the distance is too far, it would not be feasible nor comfortable to walk. not to mention maintaining it in the long run and security risk.
maybe the shuttle bus can kawtim the residence to ferry them as well. kekeke.

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Walking distant from OUG to Bukit Jalil? hmmmmm...
That is possible!! last time the monk Tang Sanzang also walk from the east to the west. hahahaha!

by the way...I think this is talking about the proposed pedestrian or buggy link, then it could be really the walking distant.
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Haha. But now a day where to hire a monkey n a pig to bodyguard ,n FREE one ?
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I will be very careful when developer claim will start their mall in later stage where the investment decision is partly based on the success of the mall.

you see icon city mahsing no news on the phase 2 already...
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boss, this ok laa...wct leh. Somemore they gt experience in managing a mall... tongue.gif
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wah...expensive le. 850psf and need to gamble on the mall
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If 10% rebate RM765psf
If 15% rebate RM722psf
If 20% rebate RM680psf

Donno have or not. bruce.gif bruce.gif

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according to the SA there, 1-2 months later since March...
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How do all taikors think compairing Walts to Park Sky by Malton and Skyluxe by Skyworld ?
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btw guys, I've clarified with my friend who worked inside WCT. The walking distance published in the brochure doesn't mean there will be a direct path built from the residence to the LRT station. It could mean crossing the road to the main development patch, then they are still considering a shuttle/walkway/travelator to the LRT station, but all subject to government approval.

Please be reminded that we are talking about crossing the KESAS highway here..


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btw guys, I've clarified with my friend who worked inside WCT. The walking distance published in the brochure doesn't mean there will be a direct path built from the residence to the LRT station. It could mean crossing the road to the main development patch, then they are still considering a shuttle/walkway/travelator to the LRT station, but all subject to government approval.

Please be reminded that we are talking about crossing the KESAS highway here..
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Yes...dont think it will be a walking distance straight away from the residence to the LRT, but is there possible to walk to the shopping mall?? confused.gif confused.gif
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QUOTE(surf-it @ Apr 12 2016, 02:13 PM)
btw guys, I've clarified with my friend who worked inside WCT. The walking distance published in the brochure doesn't mean there will be a direct path built from the residence to the LRT station. It could mean crossing the road to the main development patch, then they are still considering a shuttle/walkway/travelator to the LRT station, but all subject to government approval.

Please be reminded that we are talking about crossing the KESAS highway here..
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shld be walking across Jalan Awan Besar.

Waltz Residence is juz opposite the current new WCT OUG show gallery.

The land along Jln Kesas will develop by WCT shld hv road linkage from their Mall, service apartment, corporate tower and hotel.

Try to visit WCT OUG show gallery to see their entire project.

WCT will developed phases by phases.

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Yes...dont think it will be a walking distance straight away from the residence to the LRT, but is there possible to walk to the shopping mall?? confused.gif  confused.gif
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Super Link to Awan Besar LRT from the Shopping Mall !!!! This will be very convenience for the shopper and also the residential owner.

This link is not confirmed as I know. Still in planning and getting approval by the authority.




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Super Link to Awan Besar LRT from the Shopping Mall !!!! This will be very convenience for the shopper and also the residential owner.

This link is not confirmed as I know. Still in planning and getting approval by the authority.
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How long is the proposed pedestrian bridge/buggy link? >500m?
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Super Link to Awan Besar LRT from the Shopping Mall !!!! This will be very convenience for the shopper and also the residential owner.

This link is not confirmed as I know. Still in planning and getting approval by the authority.
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Do u know how many ppl can sit in one buggy? Max 6 person. Is not effective
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Super Link to Awan Besar LRT from the Shopping Mall !!!! This will be very convenience for the shopper and also the residential owner.

This link is not confirmed as I know. Still in planning and getting approval by the authority.
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Bear in mind, now we are going to buy the condo instead of the shopping mall. The said super link is only to benefit the shopping mall not the condo; If there is a covered walkway from the condo to the shopping mall only the best!!!

but i dont see any covered walkway in the scale model last time.
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Do u know how many ppl can sit in one buggy? Max 6 person. Is not effective
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if one buggy definitely not enough, but who know how many buggy they will provide in future?

normally event organizer also provide 2-3 buggies, dont think it will be only one buggy to service the crowd from LRT.
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if one buggy definitely not enough, but who know how many buggy they will provide in future?

normally event organizer also provide 2-3 buggies, dont think it will be only one buggy to service the crowd from LRT.
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Cost wise it doesn't make sense.ok let's assume they have 6 buggy at the same time u need to hire 6 staff to drive it. It is too expensive to.achieve the result.
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Cost wise it doesn't make sense.ok let's assume they have 6 buggy at the same time u need to hire 6 staff to drive it. It is too expensive to.achieve the result.
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yeah agree, that's why I am very skeptical on how they are going to implement it.
But I was hoping for direct pedestrian walkway directly into the mall from the Waltz, seems like Not, only to cross the road to the main development patch
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I wonder how much buyer see the value in order to build a additional pedestrian from LRT and without. RM800/psft (With) or RM750/psft(without).
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QUOTE(Investor007 @ Apr 13 2016, 03:29 PM)
Bear in mind, now we are going to buy the condo instead of the shopping mall. The said super link is only to benefit the shopping mall not the condo; If there is a covered walkway from the condo to the shopping mall only the best!!!

but i dont see any covered walkway in the scale model last time.
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QUOTE(Clement1001 @ Apr 14 2016, 02:23 PM)
I wonder how much buyer see the value in order to build a additional pedestrian from LRT and without. RM800/psft (With) or RM750/psft(without).
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as investor 007 rightly mention, the one benefitting should foot the cost.
hence resi price remains. the cost of the covered walkway should rightfully be charged to the mall instead.

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Cost wise it doesn't make sense.ok let's assume they have 6 buggy at the same time u need to hire 6 staff to drive it. It is too expensive to.achieve the result.
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but a hyundai starex 12 seater. kawtim.

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Today news. Price still is secret.
if >800psf net for 950sqf unit... good luck WCT...

WCT Holdings to launch first phase of OUG luxury condos in 2Q2016

By Natalie Khoo / TheEdgeProperty.com | April 15, 2016 12:57 PM MYT

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WCTPETALING JAYA (April 15): WCT Holdings Bhd is set to launch the first phase of luxury condominium development The Waltz Residences at Paradigm Garden City, Overseas Union Garden (OUG), Kuala Lumpur in 2Q2016, said WCT Holdings managing director Taing Kim Hwa.

The Waltz Residences comprises two tower blocks and 419 units. Taing, however, declined to provide further details such as built-ups and prices of the condo units.


“It is currently open for registration and we will announce the other details of the project such as the built-ups and prices once we are ready,” he told TheEdgeProperty.com.

Paradigm Garden City sits on a 72-acre freehold land comprising luxury condos, a retail mall, corporate office tower, retail offices and a hotel with a total gross development value (GDV) of RM8 billion to RM10 billion.

Meanwhile, the group also expects to complete its Medini Signature condos in Johor by 3Q2016.

The Medini Signature project has achieved a 60% take-up rate since its launch in 2013, said Taing.

“The Medini Signature is a subsequent development to the recently completed and handed over 1Medini Condominiums. The 1Medini Condominiums comprises 644 condo units with built-ups from 720 sq ft onwards. All units have been sold out,” he added.

The Medini Signature has built-ups from 655 sq ft onwards, with an estimated GDV of RM483 million.

Prices for The Medini Signature units start from RM524,000.

“Among the facilities our residents will be able to enjoy include an infinity pool, a yoga deck, tennis court and a gymnasium,” he added.

Another project which the group has completed in Johor is the 1Medini Garden Villas in June last year. There is currently a balance of eight units from the 18 units launched. Prices start from RM1.2 million.

“I would say that our projects in Johor are strategically located at the heart of Iskandar, which has easy access to the city centre. It only takes 15 minutes to drive out to Johor Bahru and the Customs, Immigration and Quarantine (CIQ) complex, and half an hour to drive to the Senai International Airport,” he said.

WCT also aims to open the group’s fourth shopping mall — and its second under the “Paradigm Mall” banner — in Johor Bahru this year.
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Today news. Price still is secret.
if >800psf net for 950sqf unit... good luck WCT...

WCT Holdings to launch first phase of OUG luxury condos in 2Q2016

By Natalie Khoo / TheEdgeProperty.com | April 15, 2016 12:57 PM MYT

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WCTPETALING JAYA (April 15): WCT Holdings Bhd is set to launch the first phase of luxury condominium development The Waltz Residences at Paradigm Garden City, Overseas Union Garden (OUG), Kuala Lumpur in 2Q2016, said WCT Holdings managing director Taing Kim Hwa.

The Waltz Residences comprises two tower blocks and 419 units. Taing, however, declined to provide further details such as built-ups and prices of the condo units.


“It is currently open for registration and we will announce the other details of the project such as the built-ups and prices once we are ready,” he told TheEdgeProperty.com.

Paradigm Garden City sits on a 72-acre freehold land comprising luxury condos, a retail mall, corporate office tower, retail offices and a hotel with a total gross development value (GDV) of RM8 billion to RM10 billion.

Meanwhile, the group also expects to complete its Medini Signature condos in Johor by 3Q2016.

The Medini Signature project has achieved a 60% take-up rate since its launch in 2013, said Taing.

“The Medini Signature is a subsequent development to the recently completed and handed over 1Medini Condominiums. The 1Medini Condominiums comprises 644 condo units with built-ups from 720 sq ft onwards. All units have been sold out,” he added.

The Medini Signature has built-ups from 655 sq ft onwards, with an estimated GDV of RM483 million.

Prices for The Medini Signature units start from RM524,000.

“Among the facilities our residents will be able to enjoy include an infinity pool, a yoga deck, tennis court and a gymnasium,” he added.

Another project which the group has completed in Johor is the 1Medini Garden Villas in June last year. There is currently a balance of eight units from the 18 units launched. Prices start from RM1.2 million.

“I would say that our projects in Johor are strategically located at the heart of Iskandar, which has easy access to the city centre. It only takes 15 minutes to drive out to Johor Bahru and the Customs, Immigration and Quarantine (CIQ) complex, and half an hour to drive to the Senai International Airport,” he said.

WCT also aims to open the group’s fourth shopping mall — and its second under the “Paradigm Mall” banner — in Johor Bahru this year.
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I am new at this area but interested to get a unit for investment.

How do we compare waltz with parklane oug?

Because parklane oug sub ssle only $400/sq feet.
Where here they are selling 800/sqf

What are the advantages of paradigm over parklane in terms of quality,luxurious, location etc beside stay beside mall.

Thanks pls advice

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I currently stay at oug, dun really like Paradigm location
for investment i not sure it will fetch a very good return

there are cheaper projects nearby
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I am new at this area but interested to get a unit for investment.

How do we compare waltz with parklane oug?

Because parklane oug sub ssle only $400/sq feet.
Where here they are selling 800/sqf

What are the advantages of paradigm over parklane in terms of quality,luxurious, location etc beside stay beside mall.

Thanks pls advice
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if you are talking about the investment perspective, there will be no 100% guarantee in the world.

But, what I look at their master plan comparing to Pavilion 2, actually Paradigm Mall has an advantage in term of the location, where is more explore to the world instead inside the bukit jalil itself, especially those ingress & egress which make the accessibility even convenient (if approved by DBKL)

therefore, once the shopping mall success, their whole project will be successful as well.
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They do not intend to build shopping mall so fast.

They are also undecided about the mall space and configuration yet. It's probably later and my personal opinion is that I think it's better to build mall at the tail end of the development.
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no need big big mall. just do a publika style ok liao.

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