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frodododo
post Jan 6 2007, 02:18 AM

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QUOTE(hikari @ Jan 3 2007, 11:38 PM)
how long have u been working there? in assurance, advisory or tax?
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been working for a few years in advisory...r u in the firm as well?
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post Jan 6 2007, 03:44 AM

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wahhh so many pwc ppl here - any managers around? Hehe. By the conversations here I can tell that none of you guys are from FS - most likely EUMI and CIPS smile.gif

Lemme elaborate further then on Financial Services (audit). Roughly divided into three - Banking, Insurance and DLL (dan lain-lain - including fund and investment management). Specialisation into these three branches are rare for new joiners - only when you are into the second and third year would you be segregated. There's little you can do once you are designated into Banking or Insurance - so my advice is to speak to Managers from your desired line of choice and ask to be booked on their jobs (that is if you are not alredy booked).

Travelling to PwC
To go to PwC via LRT - STAR LRT alight at Sultan Ismail station - walk accross the road using the overhead bridge (which ppl seldom use these days) - Wisma Sime Darby or WSD is the corner building on your front left.

There's lots of parking behind WSD if you're travelling by car.
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post Jan 6 2007, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(frodododo @ Jan 6 2007, 02:18 AM)
been working for a few years in advisory...r u in the firm as well?
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hi, yup!.. less than a year in assurance.. smile.gif


QUOTE(kaynemil @ Jan 6 2007, 03:44 AM)
wahhh so many pwc ppl here - any managers around?  Hehe.  By the conversations here I can tell that none of you guys are from FS - most likely EUMI and CIPS smile.gif

Lemme elaborate further then on Financial Services (audit). Roughly divided into three - Banking, Insurance and DLL (dan lain-lain - including fund and investment management).  Specialisation into these three branches are rare for new joiners - only when you are into the second and third year would you be segregated.  There's little you can do once you are designated into Banking or Insurance - so my advice is to speak to Managers from your desired line of choice and ask to be booked on their jobs (that is if you are not alredy booked). 

Travelling to PwC
To go to PwC via LRT - STAR LRT alight at Sultan Ismail station - walk accross the road using the overhead bridge (which ppl seldom use these days) - Wisma Sime Darby or WSD is the corner building on your front left.

There's lots of parking behind WSD if you're travelling by car.
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haha yup EUMI i am.. i put FS as my last preference during my interview because i knew bout this "specialisation" thinghy.. not my cup of tea hehe..

btw, it's no point having the lrt station so near to office.. always have to go client etc.. hardly stay in office.. i think i'm only back in office twice or thrice a month at most (if there's no training).. kinda sad..
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post Jan 7 2007, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(hikari @ Jan 6 2007, 11:34 PM)
hi, yup!.. less than a year in assurance..  smile.gif
haha yup EUMI i am.. i put FS as my last preference during my interview because i knew bout this "specialisation" thinghy.. not my cup of tea hehe..

btw, it's no point having the lrt station so near to office.. always have to go client etc.. hardly stay in office.. i think i'm only back in office twice or thrice a month at most (if there's no training).. kinda sad..
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Still on PwC..
agreed.. although generally most of the FS clients are within the Golden Triangle smile.gif - there are some clients in Labuan (offshore banks) and there's possibilities of being sent out for branch visits in other States. CIPS - alot of them in industrial areas like Port Klang, Shah Alam, Bangi, Puchong. Perhaps hikari can expand on EUMI?

Do you think that the move to KL Sentral soon is a good idea? Where to park leh? But very convenient to visit MidValley during lunch time though especially off peak season, muahahaha!
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post Jan 7 2007, 08:31 PM

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QUOTE(kaynemil @ Jan 7 2007, 08:15 PM)
Still on PwC..
agreed.. although generally most of the FS clients are within the Golden Triangle smile.gif  - there are some clients in Labuan (offshore banks) and there's possibilities of being sent out for branch visits in other States.  CIPS - alot of them in industrial areas like Port Klang, Shah Alam, Bangi, Puchong.  Perhaps hikari can expand on EUMI?

Do you think that the move to KL Sentral soon is a good idea?  Where to park leh? But very convenient to visit MidValley during lunch time though especially off peak season, muahahaha!
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hey, when compared to being based in a building just across the street where transvestites ply their trade and drug addicts do their thing...i'd definitely take the added hassle!
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post Jan 8 2007, 07:49 AM

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QUOTE(frodododo @ Jan 7 2007, 08:31 PM)
hey, when compared to being based in a building just across the street where transvestites ply their trade and drug addicts do their thing...i'd definitely take the added hassle!
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Ok, I might deviate a little from the topic - but here's a real-life story I'm sharing regarding this.. This happened to me last year..

Was working till 7pm on Sat in WSD, and I parked my car at the KNChak place, very near the entrance. Was opening the car doors to release the hot air (not a very clever thing to do) and when I was closing up, some fugly transvetite tried to get in but i managed to close the doors except for the driver's seat - he was holding the car door, and asked me where I'm going. I just said I'm not interested but he still held on. 30 very long seconds later he let go of the door and I sped off.

Long story short - please travel in packs next time for safety reasons.
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post Jan 8 2007, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(kaynemil @ Jan 8 2007, 07:49 AM)
Ok, I might deviate a little from the topic - but here's a real-life story I'm sharing regarding this.. This happened to me last year..

Was working till 7pm on Sat in WSD, and I parked my car at the KNChak place, very near the entrance.  Was opening the car doors to release the hot air (not a very clever thing to do) and when I was closing up, some fugly transvetite tried to get in but i managed to close the doors except for the driver's seat - he was holding the car door, and asked me where I'm going.  I just said I'm not interested but he still held on.  30 very long seconds later he let go of the door and I sped off.

Long story short - please travel in packs next time for safety reasons.
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haha bro, at least u got away without being violated...well other than transies and drug addicts, you've also got the occasional psycho wandering abouts there...i've seen a fella practice the opening moves from wong hei hung there before...
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post Jan 8 2007, 09:19 AM

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by the way, look for recruitment ads for pwc coming out in the star sometime next week, get those cv's ready
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post Jan 8 2007, 07:00 PM

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hey guys.. my question might be out of topic here..

anyone know any public transport to go EY or KPMG area?
pls provide detail of the transport as well.. eg: bus number or etc
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post Jan 8 2007, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(babylck @ Jan 8 2007, 07:00 PM)
hey guys.. my question might be out of topic here..

anyone know any public transport to go EY or KPMG area?
pls provide detail of the transport as well.. eg: bus number or etc
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i not sure about the public transport to go EY..but then i knew that for their own staffs, EY would provide the shuttle bus service..and the most important it is free..the employees might gather in a pick-up point then the bus will pick them up at the time. besides, the shuttle bus service available on evening when the employees fnish workin..it is quite convenient for those takin LRT bcoz the pick up point and drop-off point is usualy there..
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post Jan 9 2007, 01:48 AM

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i m an auditor from big 4 singapore..i m wondering how much would the increment from A2 to A1? Mind telling me the minimum increment or maximum increment?

My fren told me tat the increment is only about RM100..is tat true?
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post Jan 9 2007, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(ar_lim @ Jan 9 2007, 01:48 AM)
i m an auditor from big 4 singapore..i m wondering how much would the increment from A2 to A1? Mind telling me the minimum increment or maximum increment?

My fren told me tat the increment is only about RM100..is tat true?
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Dunno about now, but for me, there wasn't really an increment - more like a salary revision - everyone get's it, around 5-6%. So yeah.. increment about RM100-150. The jump happens the most when you become a senior, from AA1 to SA2.. and when you get your qualifications (eg, member of CPA).. about RM600 - RM700 each time smile.gif... happiness..

THat's for PwC lar.. I think EY has gradual increase in salary, as in the increments are higher than PwC each round, but there's no such thing as qualified pay increase. At the end of the third year, your salary may match, but of course, EY ppl get more money then PwC at the end of the day (accumulatively!)
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post Jan 9 2007, 12:50 PM

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QUOTE(kaynemil @ Jan 9 2007, 09:42 AM)
Dunno about now, but for me, there wasn't really an increment - more like a salary revision - everyone get's it, around 5-6%.  So yeah.. increment about RM100-150.  The jump happens the most when you become a senior, from AA1 to SA2.. and when you get your qualifications (eg, member of CPA).. about RM600 - RM700 each time smile.gif... happiness..

THat's for PwC lar.. I think EY has gradual increase in salary, as in the increments are higher than PwC each round, but there's no such thing as qualified pay increase. At the end of the third year, your salary may match, but of course, EY ppl get more money then PwC at the end of the day (accumulatively!)
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Not sure where did you hear that accumulatively EY staff get more than PwC staff but perhaps you should get your facts right first next time. But EY's staff don't get a RM 600 - 700 increment when they are promoted from A1 to SA2 although A2 to A1's increment is more than RM 100 - 150.
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post Jan 9 2007, 11:14 PM

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QUOTE(kaynemil @ Jan 7 2007, 08:15 PM)
Still on PwC..
agreed.. although generally most of the FS clients are within the Golden Triangle smile.gif  - there are some clients in Labuan (offshore banks) and there's possibilities of being sent out for branch visits in other States.  CIPS - alot of them in industrial areas like Port Klang, Shah Alam, Bangi, Puchong.  Perhaps hikari can expand on EUMI?

Do you think that the move to KL Sentral soon is a good idea?  Where to park leh? But very convenient to visit MidValley during lunch time though especially off peak season, muahahaha!
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yup. FS can get to travel to labuan too.. but i'm not into the specialisation of the industry itself..

EUMI is also quite specialised in a sense.. this is because the client is so huge, u'll spend most of ur time with a client.. EUMI client have a lot of special projects.. like due d, some special reporting etc also due to the client business and size.. so, u'll spend ard 6 months with the same client.. u'll get to travel as well, as i've heard EUMI jobs (since i joined, less than a year) have brought ppl to India, Egypt, Australia, Indonesia, China etc.. plus there are many outstation jobs like Miri, Terengganu, Labuan etc.. and EUMI is thought to be the toughest industry in PwC due to the culture.. it's peak whole year round for those in EUMI. smile.gif

some clients under EUMI industry are Shell, Exxon Mobil, Tenaga, Telekom, AirAsia, all Ananda Krishnan's companies (Tanjong Plc, Maxis, Astro, Measat etc etc) and many others.. the names might sound glamour, but these jobs requires high dedication and lots of effort and overtime.. LOL

that'll end of my report tongue.gif


bout KL sentral, i dun like la.. parking must be damnexpensive.. cannot claim 1 leh.. food also must be expensive :'( i'm so gonna miss my tom yam claypot yee mee at the wantan mee shop..
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QUOTE(kevinleng @ Jan 9 2007, 12:50 PM)
Not sure where did you hear that accumulatively EY staff get more than PwC staff but perhaps you should get your facts right first next time. But EY's staff don't get a RM 600 - 700 increment when they are promoted from A1 to SA2 although A2 to A1's increment is more than RM 100 - 150.
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i can second his words... hahaha

what kevin said is true.



This post has been edited by cktwai: Jan 9 2007, 11:19 PM
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QUOTE(kevinleng @ Jan 9 2007, 12:50 PM)
Not sure where did you hear that accumulatively EY staff get more than PwC staff but perhaps you should get your facts right first next time. But EY's staff don't get a RM 600 - 700 increment when they are promoted from A1 to SA2 although A2 to A1's increment is more than RM 100 - 150.
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so it is normal increment of 100-150 lah....

but my fren in EY JB get more than 200 increment leh... i thinks she got the outstanding performance... that y she get the highest increment among others...

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post Jan 10 2007, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(cktwai @ Jan 9 2007, 11:19 PM)
i can second his words... hahaha

what kevin said is true.
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Maybe what I said was wrong. I was thinking that if EY staff on average gets higher increment than PwC. Lemme explain abit. First year, let's say same salary scale:
PwC - RM2100 * 12
EY - RM2100 * 12
end of the year - sama-sama

Second year, EY increment higher:
PwC - RM2250 * 12 (let's say RM150 increase)
EY - RM2500 * 12 (let's say RM300 increase)

Third year, PwC person promoted to senior, get salary increase, EY also got same increase
PwC - RM2850 * 12 (let's say RM600 increase)
EY - RM2800 * 12 (let's say RM300 increase)

At the end of the third year, although the salary level almost the same, guess who has a fatter bank account?

That's my theory lar.. maybe I'm wrong leh
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post Jan 10 2007, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(hikari @ Jan 9 2007, 11:14 PM)
yup. FS can get to travel to labuan too.. but i'm not into the specialisation of the industry itself..

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that'll end of my report  tongue.gif
bout KL sentral, i dun like la.. parking must be damnexpensive.. cannot claim 1 leh.. food also must be expensive  :'(  i'm so gonna miss my tom yam claypot yee mee at the wantan mee shop..
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yum yum! I love the claypot tom yum yee mee too!! extra salty! hehee.. although I like the plain yee peng and fishballs version smile.gif
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QUOTE(kaynemil @ Jan 10 2007, 08:55 AM)
Maybe what I said was wrong.  I was thinking that if EY staff on average gets higher increment than PwC.  Lemme explain abit. First year, let's say same salary scale:
PwC - RM2100 * 12
EY - RM2100 * 12
end of the year - sama-sama

Second year, EY increment higher:
PwC - RM2250 * 12 (let's say RM150 increase)
EY - RM2500 * 12 (let's say RM300 increase)

Third year, PwC person promoted to senior, get salary increase, EY also got same increase
PwC - RM2850 * 12 (let's say RM600 increase)
EY - RM2800 * 12 (let's say RM300 increase)

At the end of the third year, although the salary level almost the same, guess who has a fatter bank account?

That's my theory lar.. maybe I'm wrong leh
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r ur assumption is realistic or not??? based on any facts???

the person must be super KENG?
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post Jan 11 2007, 11:11 PM

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nope.. his assumption is realistis.. that's the kind of increment for an average performer.. but i think the starting pay for PwC not 2.1k anymore wink.gif

in the end, EY staff will benefit more due to the their 2nd year earning so much more...

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