its already like this la

1)pwc
2)ey
3)kpmg
4)deloitte
5) BDO..

there is a talk in TBS(taylors business school) 9 onwards go cause pwc and ey hr will be there submit yr resume to thm

Ha ha! I think last year alot of Deloitte seniors have left for Shanghai/Beijing jobs with higher salaries or 'migrated' to PwC KL... heard that Deloitte KL can be quite 'chinaman' when it comes to directors and partners...

you'll be suprise my friend if you knew the true story... just coz Deloitte is ranked 4th doesn't mean the perks and salaries as lower than the rest..

I don doubt that Deloitte at times pay higher than the rest.. I have ex-Deloitte fwens in PwC that can confirm that.. Further more deloitte pays a handsome overtime and when accumulated, wah lau, like bonus on its own... It's just that the workload.... among the four... Deloitte is the worst, muahahaha (but of coz, if u are senior in deloitte, then u won't do much field work as compared to the others, more on reviewing sections..)

true,, i dunno what is deloitte pay.. but i doubt that the pay is higher than what BDO offer.. maybe just on par.. plus, i think Deloitte audit department is working like a medium firm.. good recognition (big 4 firm), but lots of things to learn.. not industry segregated etc.. and more companies to approach.. due to smaller clients..

This post has been edited by hikari: Oct 1 2006, 06:11 PM

HI Everyone.

I noticed that nowadays Big4 not just hire purely Acc. Auditor only, I noticed they do hire IT ppl - IT Governance and Control, IT / Technology Risk Management and so on apart from IT Auditor itself.

Im a IT grads and I believed some of you might be the same.

Do that position required them to work till overnite or drag to weekends as some may described for Auditor jobs; but I noticed the jobs scope is different.

Besides, how abt the wages? Do anyone know whether it's higher or lower compare to traditional Auditing stuff jobs?

Appreciate for any comments.

yeah i wish to know more about them too

Just curious to know that whether Big 4 will only hire those distinction students?

recently, i've been chosen to go for an internship.. there are a lot of audit firm screening for each of the resume.. n' to my suprise.. i've been selected by one of the big 4 though i only get merit during my diploma..

i got 2 friends who have been selected by the same firm.. but they grades were superb good.. both of them were distinction students..

can anyone enlighten me?

thanks in advance..

This post has been edited by mashilee: Dec 8 2006, 12:21 PM

i just want to know more, izzit without pure accounting cert or qualification can apply job at Big 4? Does it need ACCA, CPA or those related to accounting? i just want to know more thanks

As long as u r fresh graduate on degree in accounting u can apply for that..they do concern abt our results but there will be also a chance for those "not distinction" student for interview..i think we dun necessarily hav 2 took cpa , acca etc..before we apply for the job..we can take it while we r workin there..they might be sponsor us also..mayb is a good starting point for fresh grad..the recruitment is goin throughout the whole year..can apply online or go to those career fair..

Because accounting degree doesn't mean a pure accounting stream, if really want to become accountant need to take ACCA, i just want to be sure weather without any pure accounting degree or cert can enter Big 4?

To be honest, the working hours depends on the project you are on. If the client is nice or if the project was planned properly with enough man-power and man days, you wouldn't need to work like a dog. But if it was set up with high expectations and low man-power, you would need to work non-stop.

anyone went through the interview in any Big 4?
if yes, mind to share the experience?

Can someone tell me how to go to KPMG KL using public transport

I see some of the people's posts here and it seems that there are a lot of rumours that you all hear about the Big4s....

I'm currently working in a Big4 right now and I have worked for more than 1 Big4 before.

For TRUE and ACCURATE information about working life in Big4, what to expect and so forth, PM me with your questions.

Please do not ask generic questions and ask specific questions...

Just to kick start your thought on Big4s... they generally offer these type of services:-

1. Financial Audit - these are external auditors that go round auditing ppl's accounts
2. Internal Audit - does work for Internal Audit departments of companies. Some companies lack expertise in doing IA work so they outsource it to the Big4s. SOX audits generally fall here as well.
3. IT Audit - does IT Auditing of IT operations and IT systems that support the financial system.
4. Risk Management - can be IT or overall risk management of a company.
5. Tax - this is all about taxes and forming new companies
6. Financial Advisory - can be transaction advisory, fraud investigation, business consulting and etc.
7. Support Services - you may work in technical departments of Big4s, finance department or even the IT Department.

Generally the Big4s offer the above types of job/career fields...

I think what a lot of people hear about the Big4s is pretty much NOT TRUE!

yes...not neccessary take professional papers. They do encourage, but u can take when u are while working. I know Deloitte does sponsor for ACCA for total amount up to RM8k , which EY does not sponsor for ACCA.

can anyone list down the transport available to reach the location for these Big4? thanks

if u are asking about melaka, i can say always by car . hahaha...
jk..jk...

Anyone working in Big 4 Melaka? I heard their requirement to enter is very very very high.. AT LEAST a second upper for a degree holder.. Hmm.. is that true ah??

-.-" cktwai would be a good person to answer your questions but for an insight on current situation of IT Audit in EY do feel free to ask me.

actually all Big 4's no matter where's minimum requirement is 2nd upper or average credit.