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aile_1985
post Jan 11 2007, 11:18 PM

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Is there anybody who work in corporate tax department @ big 4. Can u give brief explanation of the work and what we are expected to do??

vin_ann
post Jan 12 2007, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(aile_1985 @ Jan 11 2007, 11:18 PM)
Is there anybody who work in corporate tax department @ big 4. Can u give brief explanation of the work and what we are expected to do??
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u going to works in big4 tax???

tax dept got many dept 1 leh......
flowerr
post Jan 12 2007, 12:36 AM

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just wan to kepo abit.. hehehe...

how many times does one need to get promoted in order to get an increment of salary until rm5k? this is approx how many yrs?

by the way, bout the workload.. does it gradually decrease or still as bz no matter wat position u r in?
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post Jan 12 2007, 07:09 AM

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QUOTE(flowerr @ Jan 12 2007, 12:36 AM)
just wan to kepo abit.. hehehe...

how many times does one need to get promoted in order to get an increment of salary until rm5k? this is approx how many yrs?

by the way, bout the workload.. does it gradually decrease or still as bz no matter wat position u r in?
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U need to be at least a Manager to draw that kind of salary. Which means at least 5 years lor. But the level before that, ES (Executive Senior) may draw as much as RM4500 (a few star performance ppl lar).

Work load shifts from ticking (or vouching) to managing the engagement effectively, tackling difficult issues (use more brain matter)

If you're asking about whether the work hours will bcome shorter, I'm afraid the answer is not.
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post Jan 12 2007, 11:08 AM

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Anybody has working experience in KPMG in the group support level...ie : finance dept / hr dept?

How is the working environment, pay, benefits, etc?


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post Jan 13 2007, 10:11 AM

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Can anyone tell me more about the entrance Test in EY /pwc / Kpmg ?

I just fininsh my final exam, awaiting for result now. but I anticipate my degree grade is mayb 2nd class lower , do I stand a chance sweat.gif

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frodododo
post Jan 15 2007, 07:54 AM

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QUOTE(kaynemil @ Jan 12 2007, 07:09 AM)
U need to be at least a Manager to draw that kind of salary.  Which means at least 5 years lor.  But the level before that, ES (Executive Senior) may draw as much as RM4500 (a few star performance ppl lar).

Work load shifts from ticking (or vouching) to managing the engagement effectively, tackling difficult issues (use more brain matter)

If you're asking about whether the work hours will bcome shorter, I'm afraid the answer is not.
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Actually, depending on which line of service you're in, you can draw that much as an Assistant Manager (this position however does not exist anymore in Assurance). To get to AM level, it will take anywhere from 3 to 4 years, depending on how you perform.
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post Jan 15 2007, 07:57 AM

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QUOTE(MtV @ Jan 13 2007, 10:11 AM)
Can anyone tell me more about the entrance Test in EY /pwc / Kpmg ?

I just fininsh my final exam, awaiting for result now. but I anticipate my degree grade is mayb  2nd class lower , do I stand a chance  sweat.gif
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For PwC Assurance, you have to go through a pre-qualification session and an interview. One of the basic academic requirements is that you have a 2nd upper, which is the minimum to be shortlisted for the pre-qualification session.

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post Jan 18 2007, 12:03 AM

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another stupid question...
y do most accounting students wanted to go into audit line more than tax?
*seems like everyone is talking about audit..*
does it really mean that working in audit is better than tax?
if that's the case.. in wat sense?
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post Jan 18 2007, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(frodododo @ Jan 15 2007, 07:57 AM)
For PwC Assurance, you have to go through a pre-qualification session and an interview. One of the basic academic requirements is that you have a 2nd upper, which is the minimum to be shortlisted for the pre-qualification session.
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icic... when is the opening leh?
recently i heard from my UM fren, she got offer from Pwc jor... so nice she can get offer while not yet finished her study yet....

can start works after graduate.... no need to be "pengukur tanah"

ACCA qualification can apply kah? academic will be only parts of the process right?
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post Jan 18 2007, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(flowerr @ Jan 18 2007, 12:03 AM)
another stupid question...
y do most accounting students wanted to go into audit line more than tax?
*seems like everyone is talking about audit..*
does it really mean that working in audit is better than tax?
if that's the case.. in wat sense?
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tht's for SURE....
even the Famous Tax Lecturer aka Famous Tax Consultant also from audit line leh... Audit is when we all gain experience... and learning... all sorts of things u can experience it... be it good or bad...

audit is our stepping stone...

from there, ur tax will improve
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post Jan 18 2007, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Jan 18 2007, 12:08 AM)
icic... when is the opening leh?
recently i heard from my UM fren, she got offer from Pwc jor... so nice she can get offer while not yet finished her study yet....

can start works after graduate.... no need to be "pengukur tanah"

ACCA qualification can apply kah? academic will be only parts of the process right?
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PwC takes in ACCA graduates, we've had a few of them over the past few years. It all depends on how you fare during the interview, of course extra-curriculum activities and sporting achievements are a plus. Having a good command of English and being able to express your thoughts is quite important as well as the interviewer will be looking at these qualities during the interview.


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post Jan 18 2007, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Jan 18 2007, 12:16 AM)
tht's for SURE....
even the Famous Tax Lecturer aka Famous Tax Consultant also from audit line leh... Audit is when we all gain experience... and learning... all sorts of things u can experience it... be it good or bad...

audit is our stepping stone...

from there, ur tax will improve
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Well I have to disagree with you in saying that working in audit is better than tax, it all is relative to what you want to accomplish. It's true that audit experience will open opportunities for you to go finance or accounting type of work, but tax will give you other opportunities as well, especially in tax advisory areas like transfer pricing or indirect tax.

In a sense, tax experience can be perceived as providing the base line for you to expand to more value-added sort of work as compared to audit.

It's quite unfair to state that the audit working experience offers more than audit or vice versa, they're just different. Personally, I wouldn't choose one over the other.

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post Jan 18 2007, 08:13 AM

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QUOTE(frodododo @ Jan 18 2007, 01:27 AM)
Well I have to disagree with you in saying that working in audit is better than tax, it all is relative to what you want to accomplish. It's true that audit experience will open opportunities for you to go finance or accounting type of work, but tax will give you other opportunities as well, especially in tax advisory areas like transfer pricing or indirect tax.

In a sense, tax experience can be perceived as providing the base line for you to expand to more value-added sort of work as compared to audit.

It's quite unfair to state that the audit working experience offers more than audit or vice versa, they're just different. Personally, I wouldn't choose one over the other.
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if given a choice between audit, tax and advisory, I'll go for advisory hands down. but that's my personal choice smile.gif

frododo, although I agree that being in tax line will give u the opportunity to be more 'value adding' compared to audit, I have heard more success stories of audit partners/directors jumping into the commercial world and landing high profile jobs (aka CFO of financial institutions etc) than that of tax..

Being in audit means that you get a more fuller picture, as you get to see all the operations of a business (including a very narrow view on tax). I'm not saying in tax you won't, but that's rare. And the more senior you are, the more of the business mechanics you would learn.
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post Jan 18 2007, 10:05 AM

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ok, say if i wish to open my own tax consulting firm in the future...
do i just go into 1 of the big 4's tax dept and work work work then open it?
or wat should i do?


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post Jan 19 2007, 12:23 PM

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anyone working in EY?

do they have staff parking? or is there any flat rate parking near to EY?

thanks in advance~
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post Jan 19 2007, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(babylck @ Jan 19 2007, 12:23 PM)
anyone working in EY?

do they have staff parking? or is there any flat rate parking near to EY?

thanks in advance~
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You won't be issued a staff parking unless you are AM and above. Flat rate parking is available but it's only feasible if you're not going out to see client often (i.e. admin depts & tax). Flat rate parking is RM 7 per day in the open air car park next to MM building.
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post Jan 19 2007, 04:40 PM

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Just wonder, what are ur ambitious after u qualified to be accountant ??

Audit partner ? Just a co. accountant earning 3K-4K?

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post Jan 19 2007, 09:04 PM

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QUOTE(kevinleng @ Jan 19 2007, 12:40 PM)
You won't be issued a staff parking unless you are AM and above. Flat rate parking is available but it's only feasible if you're not going out to see client often (i.e. admin depts & tax). Flat rate parking is RM 7 per day in the open air car park next to MM building.
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ok.. thanks man.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 20 2007, 06:35 PM

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QUOTE(frodododo @ Jan 18 2007, 01:27 AM)
Well I have to disagree with you in saying that working in audit is better than tax, it all is relative to what you want to accomplish. It's true that audit experience will open opportunities for you to go finance or accounting type of work, but tax will give you other opportunities as well, especially in tax advisory areas like transfer pricing or indirect tax.

In a sense, tax experience can be perceived as providing the base line for you to expand to more value-added sort of work as compared to audit.

It's quite unfair to state that the audit working experience offers more than audit or vice versa, they're just different. Personally, I wouldn't choose one over the other.
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so it's like comparing Apple and Orange...... can not compare one to one lol....



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