first of all, if you want to work for PwC, better be sure about the spelling.

secondly, yes these are considered several sections that new associates do start with. however, no one is stopping you with your own initiative of asking your senior 'can I try and do other sections?'. its all about your initiative, if you don't speak up, then you just can't put the blame on your senior for assiging you such tasks.

hope that dua sen helps

Now this is how big4 has brainwashed all fresh grads :
http://malaysias100.com/rankings-2/

They've got no choice, don't they? With the high turnover, they have to brainwash, otherwise they'd have no one!

Usually it is hard for new joiners to be allocated to new sections. For most of the joiners, they need to be at least equipped with one year experience to do the Deferred Tax Section.

Most of the time, when you ask the senior 'can I try and do other sections?', then probably they will ask you back "if you don't do the vouching for this section, so you are expecting me to do the vouching?". I've tried it few times already, and this is more like stepping the tail of your seniors. So, really have to pandai2.

Ha ha I also have reached a point, "eh now you senior a bit I throw the whole thing to you".
Now have to do testing, vouching and audit alone for all sections. Cos maybe I am a dude, they think I dont need junior / intern

One thing I notice about audit is the more s@#$ in that company, the more you learn. But you have to absorb the s@#$ at the same time.

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Added on November 21, 2010, 2:52 pmThey very pandai one la, decorate the main entrance nice nice. Interview room also canggih. Comes to the audit office Even amazon jungle will be ashamed. Should bring those fresh grads to the filling room

This post has been edited by Topace111: Nov 21 2010, 02:52 PM

hmm what i had in mind was not as far as deferred tax, maybe on receivables, payables and income statement (of course in addition to cash & bank and ppe). these are more than enough challenge for a new joiner (at least i did find it challenging in my first year LoL).

of course, when you do other sections u need to also do the assumed junior sections. that's when you can prove yourself to be able to handle the job requirements :|

haha, am in your shoes. but from experience wise, if you can handle one shit job, you're naturally assumed to be an expert in shitty jobs and hence going foward, you're being thrown more shit jobs. LoL. time to sit back and relax

If you're really fed up with s@#%@$#%t company, then ask manager can qualify the report or not. My colleague experienced once. TOC failed, ST also failed

honestly speaking, to qualify a set of account is also not that easy. there are many more qualitative factors to consider as well.

TOC fail, you can still sign off an unqualified opinion, with issuance of ICM and attached together with your report to the BOD/AC

Move up too fast on the ladder, and you'll have to work extra hard to make up for the time difference.

How about the most experienced staff there is "yourself" ?

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Added on November 21, 2010, 10:53 pmYou of course la, how to ask a jet to catch a rocket.
Time ...... audit does makes me realise time is more precious than money, oooh my unclaimed time-off.

This post has been edited by Topace111: Nov 21 2010, 10:53 PM

no choice then. close off the file yourself. sometimes your manager will appreciate if you can lay out some routes to take, rather than just going to them and ask what should you do? works for me though, was a good advice from my senior manager

Could not imagine how da peak gonna look like...

This post has been edited by limshenghong: Nov 26 2010, 03:23 AM

Anyone working in Tax here?

Sadly, don't see many tax guys around here. How's life in there?

I'm actually not working yet But I have accepted an offer to enter the Tax division. From my interview with the ED of the division, I feel like the working environment will be very good.

I would just like to know what is it like from someone who have worked in Tax, since everyone in this forum only talks about Audit

Lol I wonder the same thing too, I'm only joining in January because I have to serve 3 months resignation notice in my current firm.

Working environment can't be worse than in Audit I guess

Yes, cannot be worse because Tax has many Lengluis jkjk

This post has been edited by limshenghong: Nov 26 2010, 03:22 AM

ShengHong, you are in Tax?

Ha ha I agree on this one but not bcos audit dont have (actually a lot) but once you work past midnight, even........ you get the idea.
Fair lady becomes iron lady.

Tax work is a lot of paper pushing.

- Prepare letters to client/IRB (mostly standard letters for tax admin things).
- Prepare tax returns
- Filing documents, compiling documents when IRB ask for things
- Liaising with client for info you need to do tax returns / answer IRB's questions

You will be 90% based in the office and mostly liaise with client on the phone. It's very routine and schedules in the sense your work follows a fixed portfolio of clients and follows a fixed timetable because tax work is calendar based.

Audit work is based on materiality and macro view mostly. Tax work is detailed with no concept of materiality. You count to the last sen.

So if you are a person that likes to go out, meet ppl, or doesn't like to be stuck in one place all the time, don't go to tax.

If you are someone who like routine, meticulous by nature, you don't mind going to the same office everyday and see the same faces, then tax might suit you.

I won't say that tax is "easier" or "less work than audit". Both have different challenges. But you will have a more routine schedule compared to your audit counterparts, and also have more control over your social life to a certain extent.

This post has been edited by CKJMark: Nov 26 2010, 08:31 AM