If you go to Togoparts, a website in Singapore, thee's some for sale there. There's even posting by a Brompton refurbisher in UK who takes old Bs and refurbish them and sell. Last time I checked, they are going for about S$1300 to S$2000 depending on the year, model and specs. But our ringgit is sliding down the drain and this is not the time to buy but hey! , who knows. Check Togoparts out under the market place section.

Dahon speed 8, mu d 8 , vigor d 9
Tern link d 8 , d 18 , n 8....
Which 1 to choose as they r almost fr d same range? Cos gonna to shop 1 for myself n 1 more dahon c7a 4 my son as my daughter hd a dahon c7a...
Gonna drop by kimble jaya ..hoping they can give a better pricing....

This post has been edited by frankie chin: Jan 7 2015, 11:40 PM

Your choice mentioned are almost all on the same specs. Performance wise is probably similar as well. Dahon Speed P8 is reliable and an old horse. SO far no Speed users have complains, including myself. It's easy to upgrade later as well. Now with SRAM components, it's better than the Neos used last time. Probably the only needed upgrade is the shifter as Dahon propriety shifter is lousy! Anyway, it's less than 100 bucks for both left and right thumb shifters. As for Vigor and MU , these are faster models (so they say lah ) but usually a rider is as fast as the slowest rider in a group. Hahaaa When you ride with your kids, you have to wait for them too, right? You are not wrong either in choosing either one of the mentioned. I preferred Speed for the chromoly frame which is not as harsh when riding as the aluminium frames. That's because I sometimes ride long distance.

As for Tern models, they also have the same specs but Tern seems to be trapped in a time zone. There are no new models from them. The Link and the Verge are the only 2 frame patterns for 20 inch models. In fact, the Verge is actually the Dahon Vector and the new Dahon Vector are now the Vigor similar like frames now. The performance is almost similar to the Dahon aluminium models but it loses out in the handlebar design. That's why Dahon patented it. It's OK if you like Tern designs, but for the higher price paid for it, I see no distinct advantages over the Dahons.

Happy Riding. Nice to see riders riding with the family.

This post has been edited by etigge: Jan 8 2015, 09:06 AM

Gonna vouch for the Speed P8, a fellow happy owner here as well. Chromoly steel ftw! it's a bit on the heavy side but it rides soooo awesome over rough roads. Not to mention also abundant accessories parts from taobao haha

Still prefer it over Mu though because of the triagle frame design that's easier to carry around when folded (one more bar to hold on to) and also putting it on bicycle stand for maintenance.

My P8 is still stock with the crappy Dahon's shifter and Neos RD but give due credit, I have only adjusted it once after I got the bike and have never experience any bad shifting (crunching, not shifting up/down etc) even after 500km of riding. No doubt though that the SRAM will be better.

Another thing that may be worth changing for P8 would be the brake levers. Didn't really like the original ones and feels much better after I changed it to the Avid FR5

If you come across a Speed D7, don't be afraid to buy it if the price is right. It should be cheaper than the Speed P8. Same frame but 7 speed and standard alum wheels. The Sram 7 speed shifter is accurate and shifts nicely, at least on my previous bike. Just sold it. I understand the Dahon shifters are not as good now.

Unless you have both Cro-moly and Alum framed versions to compare side by side, you'd be hard pressed to know the difference in ride, esp when wider tyres are used. Surprisingly, the rear hub of the D7 takes cassettes, which means you can upgrade easily!
If you want light, then go aluminum. Our custom Vitesse is under 10kgs. The previous D7 was around 12.5kgs.

Sifu Etigge n desastar....tqvm 4 yr valueble info...narrow my scope to speed n vigor....i fall 4 vigor actually but too bad kimbell no stock....2molo i will drop by kimbell n see wat they new stock......update u guys once i " cheong " it...

This post has been edited by frankie chin: Jan 8 2015, 06:52 PM

Kimbell ordered as many Vigor as possible but they only sent 2 and there's another 2 orders outstanding. So, I doubt Kimbell has stock for the Vigor. Can try smaller outstation outlets though.

Aiyo!!....but will drop by 2molo cos my route ...raub-semenyih-puchong-philipine embassy-semenyih-KIMBELL JAYA then bek to raub....

My place here promotes more mtb n china brand foldies....somere price dam tough too...

This post has been edited by frankie chin: Jan 8 2015, 10:15 PM

Oh btw, not sure if anyone is interested in a Gates Carbon drive crank and belt. Of course you can only fit this if you have a split frame (no such thing in a foldy) but potentially will fit a Dahon Mu frame with internal hub gear.... Maybe I need to experiment with one.

Dahon Speed is now known as D8 and two tone colour, a couple hundred lower than Vigor D9. both nice, SRAM outfit. look vigor D9 scores but Speed comes with twister gear, as Etigge sifu says, less than 100 to change to thumb shifter. I saw Vigor D9 with SRAM s500 derailler while speed clearly mention X7. Not familiar with this S500. are they any good as X7.

i've been using sram s500 before on my mongoose.the RD looks the same as sram X5,nothing looks different in my eyes when i compare side by side long time ago if im not mistaken..

i just hope speed d8 red color in stock .dint like the two tone color (white/green) combo

For those who has changed Speed P8 to thumb shifter, may I know which shifter do you guys use? I was initially thinking of a Shimano Acera M310 8 speed thumb shifter for the rapid fire function, but just would like to know what others are using

SRAM X-5 ? Microshift?

I personally wouldn't jump the gun. If the original shifter is shifting crisply, no point replacing it. I have the Tiagra 10 sp shifter on my Vitesse, and I actually prefer the Sram twist shifter, simple and more positive, go figure!

A friend gave me this advice which I will share here, all very true..... "when you have something new, wait 3 months and see if you still hate it, if so then start modifying" I have bought so many parts over the years that frankly speaking added no additional joys to my bike riding. Always jumping in due to "sun-see-hang", or some romantic ideas. Or to have 30 speed to conquer some non-existent hills, only to use about 8 of the gears.... hahaha !!

Shifters are a matter of preference. The original are SRAM twisters but I never liked twist shifters. So I changed to thumb shifters. On doing that, I decided to go straight to 9 speed as 9 speed offers more choice of shifters. You actually can find Shimano XT or Deore 9 speed shifters if you look hard. I on the other hand found the old age LX shifters for both me and my wife's Boardwalk. Although not really important, all shifters works just fine, indexing is good but the ease of shifting is important to us. We like to do Genting Peras as the place is nearby our house, so shifting easily and also triple chainrings are important to us too. Though we don't use the granny anymore like before. But it is good to have, in times when we are too tired and want to cruise more leisurely, like riding and resting at the same time. To be fair, you need to know, what terrain and what kinds of rides are you planning to ride on.

It also approve my decision as on one of my group rides, there was another rider who blistered her palm trying to shift up and down with the twist shifters. It was not the shifters but a slightly jammed cables. It was not moving very well, maybe some signs of rust in the cable and housing. Another weakness of twist shifters (grip shift) is you tend to over shift. New users will know this. Microshift still has 8 speed shifters , so does Shimano. The SRAM X5 shifters are 10 speed nowadays.

Made my move to day !!...

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How much for the Mu D8?

1.9k++gift...

Wow! Congrats!!
Are they both same model and specs? 8 speed should be plenty fast enough.

D other 1 is 2015 vybe c7a.... looks ada ummph hor . As 4 speed p8 only ada green colour ...so i go 4 mu d8 as it got d curve looks...but dalam hati i wan p9...kena wait 3 months...aiya
But overall 2015 models cosmetics looks real good!!

This post has been edited by frankie chin: Jan 9 2015, 11:43 PM