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desastar
post Jan 12 2015, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(180jin @ Jan 12 2015, 11:45 AM)
thx sifu desastar and etigge for the input, yeah 9 speed definitely has more options just that i thought of keeping the upgrade cost low. Moving to 9 speed will need new cassette and new chain as well, the extra cog will be useful, though i have no issues with the 8 so far. The main motivation for me to move to thumb shifter is because when i ride uphill and sometimes having to ride standing up, i tend to have my wrists locked for maximum strength and efficiency (dunno how to describe but i think can sorta picture), and twist shifters require u to use ur wrist to twist so it's a bit annoying.

One good thing about twist shifter is probably that u can downshift to many gears coming to a stop at junctions, but that's possible with Shimano's rapidfire as well. Not sure about SRAMs and Microshifts though.
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I know what you are saying, but usually try and change gear before you need to stand pedaling. Not a good habit to change gear when you are pedaling hard, so this is usually an unlikely event smile.gif

At the end of the day, you'll know what you like best. My collection of bikes have got all sorts of shifters, twist, finger, flip lever (brompton), bar-end, brifters and down-tube. All have their own quirkiness, but the best will have to be brifters, but you will have to like drop bars.

Depending on the places you ride, when I was riding my Speed D7, I didn't really missed having any more gears. All boils down to gear ratios. If you have the right ones, eight should be enough in normal riding. In fact, the Speed D7 had better ratios than my Nexus Alfine 8 speed internal hub, as the ratios in that is spaced too wide, so sometimes it is too high, or too low......
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post Jan 12 2015, 06:36 PM

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QUOTE(lonely143 @ Jan 12 2015, 01:02 AM)
How much?
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Around 2.1K++ smile.gif . Best deal I can get
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post Jan 13 2015, 06:20 AM

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QUOTE(H2D @ Jan 12 2015, 12:13 PM)
LOL  biggrin.gif

unfortunately .... no.....

only in japan....

even sg can get some dahon jdm bikes..

well here in bolehland...  rolleyes.gif
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So do you how much the Dash x20 is? Nice looking and only 8.9 kg without pedals, nice!

Very hard to justify another bike now sweat.gif , will get divorced!
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post Jan 13 2015, 07:26 AM

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post Jan 13 2015, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(desastar @ Jan 13 2015, 06:20 AM)
So do you how much the Dash x20 is? Nice looking and only 8.9 kg without pedals, nice!

Very hard to justify another bike now  sweat.gif , will get divorced!
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Rodalink sold 2 units before for RM6,250.00 each. That's only one batch, never seen them again nor I saw anybody riding it. It is still available in Nava Bikes in Bangkok and there are also many unts in use in Singapore. I have the Dash P18 (2012 Taiwan made model) and it uses Tiagra RD with Microshift shifters and FD. So, I started to change the components to X20 specs but went a little overboard. I changed the whole groupset to Shimano 105 for RM1750 then. After 2 rides on the dropbars, I decided to go back to straight bar blush.gif Too taxing on riding position. Initially I went for the Tiagra 10 speed straight bar shifters but the shifting was not very smooth. Later I upgraded to Shimano 7 series straight bar shifters and this gives much better shifting with the ball bearing inside made shifting easy. Also with the quarter shift on the shifters, chain rub was eliminated at the extreme end. But I paid RM430 for that shifter, still heart burn about it but I sold off my 105 STI brifters for RM500. tongue.gif

Later on, the Dash original rims doesn't look matching compared to the X20's Kinetix Pro. As I am 98 kgs, the lack of spokes on the Kinetix Pro doesn't appeal to me. So, I ordered a pair of Weinmann SEC16 rims with the same number of spokes holes as the original Kinetix hubs. I then laced it and shodded it with a pair of Schwalbe Durano on it. I have been riding it off and on and it is fast and shifting is off course very smooth but I can't ride long as the size is an L size. You can hit 30 km/h cruising speed with it easily. That's my Dahon Dash X20 thumbup.gif

In Taobao, the frame is sold under Dahon Cheetah and the price is about RM1400 (after conversion) but the shipping is really a let down. RM400 to RM500 to ship over shocking.gif
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Shipping under 0.1m3 by sea is rm65 oni, using agent, rmb1900 for dash frame, saw it not long ago, not always got frame only to sell. later I check n see.
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post Jan 13 2015, 12:09 PM

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QUOTE(etigge @ Jan 13 2015, 10:25 AM)
Rodalink sold 2 units before for RM6,250.00 each. That's only one batch, never seen them again nor I saw anybody riding it. It is still available in Nava Bikes in Bangkok and there are also many unts in use in Singapore. I have the Dash P18 (2012 Taiwan made model) and it uses Tiagra RD with Microshift shifters and FD. So, I started to change the components to X20 specs but went a little overboard. I changed the whole groupset to Shimano 105 for RM1750 then. After 2 rides on the dropbars, I decided to go back to straight bar  blush.gif  Too taxing on riding position. Initially I went for the Tiagra 10 speed straight bar shifters but the shifting was not very smooth. Later I upgraded to Shimano 7 series straight bar shifters and this gives much better shifting with the ball bearing inside made shifting easy. Also with the quarter shift on the shifters, chain rub was eliminated at the extreme end. But I paid RM430 for that shifter, still heart burn about it but I sold off my 105 STI brifters for RM500.  tongue.gif

Later on, the Dash original rims doesn't look matching compared to the X20's Kinetix Pro. As I am 98 kgs, the lack of spokes on the Kinetix Pro doesn't appeal to me. So, I ordered a pair of Weinmann SEC16 rims with the same number of spokes holes as the original Kinetix hubs. I then laced it and shodded it with a pair of Schwalbe Durano on it. I have been riding it off and on and it is fast and shifting is off course very smooth but I can't ride long as the size is an L size. You can hit 30 km/h cruising speed with it easily. That's my Dahon Dash X20  thumbup.gif

In Taobao, the frame is sold under Dahon Cheetah and the price is about RM1400 (after conversion) but the shipping is really a let down. RM400 to RM500 to ship over  shocking.gif
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Wahlauway........RM6250.00!!! I'd rather my Moulton then!

Yes, modding is expensive business so I'm trying my best not to look here look there too much!! I agree with you re Tiagra 10 speed thumb shifters, they are not very smooth, not sure why?? I have also recently purchased a set of 105 brifters from Chain Reaction, for equivalent of RM414 free shipping, fantastic price. I'm over the moon with the shifting quality. Ok, better stop spending now.......oh wait.....too late, just seen something interesting...will tell later drool.gif
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post Jan 13 2015, 12:38 PM

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This one says 11.2kg......

http://www.stclassifieds.sg/sell/bicycles-...velo/ad-2192605

sifu etigge, you mean there are different frame sizes?
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post Jan 13 2015, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(desastar @ Jan 13 2015, 12:09 PM)
Wahlauway........RM6250.00!!!  I'd rather my Moulton then!

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it is not worth it la to get a x20...

when u back to msia,

perhaps, u shud persuade sifu etige to strip off all the parts of his dash and sell u the frame only,

since he try to sell at 4.5k incl all the $$$$ parts...

http://www.bicyclebuysell.com/item/277000/...dash-2012-model


and built yourself smthing like this...

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the frame has 2 sizes, L and M.

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the dash p18 with disc brake in malaysia, all are M size,
cos they din bring in L. doh.gif

very easy to spot a M frame, cos the top tube and down tube is a bit closer, but the head tube length remains the same.

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below is an L frame, claim to be 9.45KG... laugh.gif

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post Jan 13 2015, 02:59 PM

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brushed metal finish FnHon....... rclxms.gif

for RMB 985 with fork .... biggrin.gif


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post Jan 13 2015, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(H2D @ Jan 13 2015, 02:42 PM)
it is not worth it la to get a x20...

when u back to msia,

perhaps, u shud persuade sifu etige to strip off all the parts of his dash and sell u the frame only,

since he try to sell at 4.5k incl all the $$$$ parts...

http://www.bicyclebuysell.com/item/277000/...dash-2012-model
hahahah,...sifu ettige,please pm me if u interested to sell the wheelset alone.looking for sexy 451 rims lah... laugh.gif
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post Jan 13 2015, 03:15 PM

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post Jan 13 2015, 03:16 PM

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Hi all sifu, i owned a Java TT, it come with adjustable stem.

but one of the screw is missing and make my top part of the stem (attach to handlebar) is loose.
I can move left and right when i loose the quick release to adjust the stem.
I check for a long time, even i found a screw and screw it back, the stem still loose.
Is ok when the QR is lock, the stem wont move, but when i want to fold it and release it, it will move left and right.

Any sifu know how to solve the issue?

Please help.

Attached a photo, the screw is locate at the red circle but the picture is dahon stem.

Thanks!

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post Jan 13 2015, 03:28 PM

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I think tht is a rivet? It fits into the groove of the inner batang. Tht is y it won't turn when u release the qr. Now gone it will turn. U can actuall jz find another screw or bolt tht can fit the hole, cut it short n fit it there, or u can jz do without it lor... biggrin.gif

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post Jan 13 2015, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(H2D @ Jan 13 2015, 02:59 PM)
brushed metal finish FnHon.......  rclxms.gif

for RMB 985  with fork ....  biggrin.gif
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Wow, where do you get all these pics from, nice!

This FnHon frame.....the welding is scary man.......

As for Etigge's Dash frame, it won't fit me either as I'm not tall enough! In any case, I have already spent my dough on this bike, which I will only see in a few months.......in Melbourne. She is waiting for me wub.gif
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QUOTE(dieoledi @ Jan 13 2015, 03:16 PM)
Hi all sifu, i owned a Java TT, it come with adjustable stem.

but one of the screw is missing and make my top part of the stem (attach to handlebar) is loose.
I can move left and right when i loose the quick release to adjust the stem.
I check for a long time, even i found a screw and screw it back, the stem still loose.
Is ok when the QR is lock, the stem wont move, but when i want to fold it and release it, it will move left and right.

Any sifu know how to solve the issue?

Please help.

Attached a photo, the screw is locate at the red circle but the picture is dahon stem.

Thanks!
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That little counter sunk Philips screw is an M3/2.5mm. It is just to align the extension along the grove. The upper extension will still move if the quick release is not tighten. It is also to hold the QR in place. You can get as many of it as you want from any Nut and Bolt shops. Most famous is the Central Nut and Bolts in Jalan San Peng. Along Jalan Balakong there's 2 of such shops also but Central Nut and Bolts are the best place. Here's the coordinates of the shop,

3°08'02.5"N 101°42'29.2"E
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post Jan 13 2015, 06:51 PM

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Hi All,

thanks for the answer, I did found a screw and screw it back, but the handle still move left and right. When i tighten the screw, the ring in the inner stem is turn together with the screw. it seem the screw is use to push the inner ring to tighten the adjustable screw, so it won't move left right.

Anyway I will check the shop to get the correct screw, thanks for the advice.
Also tonight i will try to take out the upper part to see how is the thing work.

thank you and have a good day
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QUOTE(desastar @ Jan 13 2015, 07:20 AM)
So do you how much the Dash x20 is? Nice looking and only 8.9 kg without pedals, nice!

Very hard to justify another bike now  sweat.gif , will get divorced!
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post Jan 13 2015, 09:30 PM

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QUOTE(dieoledi @ Jan 13 2015, 06:51 PM)
Hi All,

thanks for the answer, I did found a screw and screw it back, but the handle still move left and right. When i tighten the screw, the ring in the inner stem is turn together with the screw. it seem the screw is use to push the inner ring to tighten the adjustable screw, so it won't move left right.

Anyway I will check the shop to get the correct screw, thanks for the advice.
Also tonight i will try to take out the upper part to see how is the thing work.

thank you and have a good day
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Even original, the top extension still moves a bit to the right and left. The said screw, protudes a little bit to stop it from turning all the way round, just within a grove on the top extension. It needs the quick release to really tighten it and also you need to stand in front and put the front wheel between your legs to hold and then align the handlebar straight before you tighten the quick release. I usually adjust only once, and never adjust anything again because releasing and tightening too much will loosen it more permanently in future. But that might hinder the folding a bit as you need to lengthen the extension to below the hubs to get a closer fold.

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