those turts and torts are from pet's family alone or together wif pet's safari? hehe...

i prefer tortoise leh...

last time when i was in schooling, i rear res, but cannot tahan the water smell. the water have to change quite often. so i surrender.

tortoise on the other hand cleaner and hardly got smell.

Pets Safari. They have lots of em.

Star tortoise need low humidity environment so its not suitable. Maybe it work best on Leopard and Sulcata only.

Me too, i prefer tortoise but there's turtles in my collection because im collecting Asian turtles.

yeah i know her, very leng lui, but me not from UPM lar . kinda surprise that see her pic here, what a small world


me last time also have a RES, raise untill almost the size of my palm liao, but then i really cannot tahan the water, everytime after feed sure have to clean the water, if not later my grandma will merajuk again. i put my RES in a 2 ft aquarium, imagine that i wash the aquarium everyday some more last time still in secondary school no extra money buy filter...

Last time i used to place my Malayan box inside the 2ft tank. Everyday i changed the water and i pick the tank from my room to the toilet.

Wood chips i would say. Hay would get very messy when the pee or poo.

uzairi... wat's de latest in ur collection lately? btw, u got how many ally snapper ha?

i tried to put hay, but i think the hay is a bit sharp. i scared will poke their eye. I see they walking in it also scared

Hay can become moldy and breed bacteria when wet. Stick to woodchips. It is the best.

You can also try a brand called Woody Pet. I mix the woodchips with Woody Pet, absorbs pee very well.

mm.. i using hay, i think it is fine since i separated my small stars and my 'sui gong' in two separated aquarium (thinking to put them together in a 3 feet aquarium), and my tortoises look like dont like to pee and poo (only once a day). hehe... so i just take out the hay which is wet/stick with pee/poo.

haiya... i live in apartment lah, later i will be moving out from my house to study in PJ (if everything go smoothly), so not thinking to get anymore tortoise (except my boss get me the chaco tortoise lah) hehe...

Latest ? Asian Leaf Turtles. I have 2 Ally Snappers.

Yups, they would danger the tortoise in a way.

Its a coconut husk.

ur 2 ally snapper is predator and hunter izzit.. one big one small... hehe... easy to take care of ar?? summore they need not deep h2o... and seldom move much... shud be easy don they?

how bout' common snapper? they share de same characteristic?

Yup, hunter and predator and they are one big one small. They are somehow easy to take care of provided u give them a good filteration system since they are always under the water. They do need deep h20 since they always stay under the water. Feed them small feeding fish depending on how big they are. Common snapper share all the characteristic of ally snapper except for they do hunt for their food which is opposite for ally. Ally just sit there and open their mouth and attract fish to come with its worm like tongue.

may i know what is HK? Hong Kong? Hostel Kakitangan?? jk

yst i went to kepong to an aquarium shop... which if i'm not mistaken is called 'kin huat' or 'kin fatt'... well, they don haf turtles except for RES but they do have tortoises!

as i see... they haf 4 hatchling sulcatas and 24 stars... they put all of 'em together in one exo terra enclosure... nice sulcatas and de stars hatchling are so cute... hehe... sulcatas are going for RM500 and hatchling stars at RM80... de more u buy, price can talk lor...

mayb titansulcata wud like to sapu all of de sulcatas and gip them a more spacious home? hehe...

but after i look clearly ar... one of the sulcata's eye got wet2 and got one grey layer liddat... wat tat means ar?? as i see, their nose are clean and not waterish... just 1 of 'em i see the eyes are not so in a good condition... hmm... or can tat sulcata be blind? (i do hope not too...)

poor lil' tortoise...

RES!!!

i stay at kepong... can u give me some direction how to go to the shop??? would want to drop by to 8

titan can only sapu all if still single and no GF/Wife to nag
but i think not advisable to have to have too many sulcata, cause they are huge (3rd largest tort in the world) when they are adult.

if the eye is a bit wet, then it is fine... but if too much then must beware...
speaking of eye problem, yesterday one of my star hatchling eyes got bubble... wahlao, i was like so scared. quickly use tissue paper to wipe it off. then it seems fine. have to monitor closely these few days

super nice btw, what is the tortoise bottom right?

cannot make big buy for this year liao yesterday just make a big spending at Matta fair. pok kai

some morning news...

Hawley teen sentenced in turtle burning
http://www.startribune.com/462/story/686605.html

Last update: September 19, 2006 - 6:19 AM

MOORHEAD, Minn. - An 18-year-old was sentenced to jail and community service for his part in setting a snapping turtle on fire, an incident he and his friends videotaped and posted on the Internet

Under the sentence handed down Monday, Joel Charles Ross, of Hawley, will have to serve at least five days in jail, perform at least 50 hours of community service, and pay a $500 fine that he can reduce by $400 with more community service. He would face more jail time and higher fines if he fails to comply with the terms of his probation.

Ross pleaded guilty last month to a misdemeanor charge of animal cruelty for an incident that captured the attention of online viewers and animal rights activists worldwide.

In late May, Ross and two juveniles videotaped themselves dousing the large snapping turtle with gasoline, lighting it on fire twice, and dancing around it. They were discovered after someone sent police an e-mail with a link to the video.

The two juveniles involved received community service earlier.

"This was something that just got way out of control, said Dennis Fisher, Ross's attorney. Fisher asked Clay County District Judge Michael Kirk to impose fines and community service but not jail time, saying Ross and his family had suffered enough.

Ross told Kirk he felt bad for his actions and knew they were wrong. He said his family has been affected, including a brother serving in Iraq.

"He's upset and probably thinks a lot less of me right now,'' Ross said.

Ross also said he had planned to sign up for the National Guard to do military police work. "Now I can't, because of this,'' he said.

Kirk said he wanted to see more empathy from Ross toward the animal.

In a letter published Tuesday in The Forum of Fargo, N.D., Ross's parents, Michael and Vicky Ross, said their son and his friends had been unfairly vilified by animal rights supporters.

"There is no pattern of cruelty with any of the three teens,'' they wrote. "There is nothing to indicate that this is anything but an isolated incident and will not likely be repeated with animals, much less humans. ... We and the other parents involved love our sons far more than these people love their stupid turtles and we believe they will turn out just fine.''

Teenagers admit lighting turtle on fire -- twice
http://www.startribune.com/462/story/602194.html

An 18-year-old has pleaded guilty to animal cruelty for a videotaped incident in which he and two friends lit a turtle on fire and danced around it.

Associated Press
Last update: August 08, 2006 - 11:36 AM

MOORHEAD, Minn. - An 18-year-old has pleaded guilty to animal cruelty for a videotaped incident in which he and two friends lit a turtle on fire and danced around it.

Joel Charles Ross of Hawley admitted they set the large snapping turtle on fire. He said they did it not once, but twice, and dressed up differently because they wanted to make their video "more funny and exciting.''

"I put the gas on the turtle and made a trail, and one of my friends ignited it with a lighter,'' he said.

The video was posted online. Ross was arrested after a police officer received it in an e-mail.

Ross acknowledged in court Monday that he knew the act would be cruel and painful to to the animal.

Judge Michael Kirk will sentence Ross Sep. 18. He could face up to 90 days in jail and a $1,000 fine.

But Ross's attorney doesn't expect the maximum because the two juveniles involved received community service.

Kirk also ordered a psychiatric evaluation for Ross after defense attorney Dennis Fisher said, "it was too expensive for the family to do it on their own.''

Fisher said the incident seemed to him to be a one-time event. "He has pets at home; he's had pets at home before,'' Fisher said. "None of those animals have ever been harmed.''

spider tortoise, nice but i haven seen it yet

wild horse? free man? ya right... now u still not 'legally' attached ma... so free man lar... but when sudah sign the contract, semua freedom have to ask 'management' + 'financial controller'. that is what we call, 'commitment' planning for the future, blah blah blah

5 months back, i'm a wild horse too but now, a tame horse

Animals in Matta fair??? No turtle/tortoise la... but got chicks