that's de reason why i'm not getting tortoises... coz' i knew i don have places for them when they grow bigger and bigger... moreover, i'm staying in apartments... so, i really got no place for them under the sun... hmm... else, i sure will buy a sulcata... hehe...

U can get an Elongated Tortoise, they wont grow that big. Furthermore its the cheapest tortoise.

well, it will not grow big overnight... it will take years.

for sulcata, based on size... it is still possible to keep em indoor until it is 5 to 7 years old+ (i think)... by the time when it has to be kept outdoor...look at it as if u are rearing a dog with different requirements

no sun? no problem, buy UVB bulb/lamp lor

will u be staying in the apartment after 5 years? time to buy/rent landed property then lor

actually, if u r afraid of size, just get a star... it will not grow that big and can be kept indoor all the time

cheapest is elongated ar?? but it don look nice as compared to stars and sulcata... hehe...

nice elaboration from titansulcata... a good direct poison tat is! hahaaa!! but true oso on wat u said... it's cute and hatchling times is de most hard times to be, rite...

lemme think about it... now all my turtles are water based turtles... no tortoises and oso never pet any before... alwiz like those lil' ones in hatchling...

Kamekame,

Well actually Razors dont stink like what Stinkpots do. Stinkpot have the ability to produce the smelly odour from the inner part of their limbs while Razor dont.

As for beginner, i would say a water based turtle is easier to take care of, just make sure you have a good setup with filtration system. Try to get a Red Ear Slider maybe? Or even a Malayan Box Turtle is interesting I like them very much myself. Good luck in your hunt.



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Uzairi, hows your Ally Snapping Turtle? I hope they are fine. Anyway that is water concern and sometimes its the shipment of the fish as well. How did you store your snapper? In an aquarium? They actually produce some acid over time so its best to change the water every week or the most two weeks..that is if you have the water running as in filtrating. Just my 2c.



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dai86, i believe Chaco Tortoise is pretty rare here in Malaysia. In fact i've never seen it so far. Maybe you should try Red Footed or Pancake, pretty unique imho. Radiated is nice but thats some serious pricing we are talking bout.



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how much is a sulcata normally? i've never seen any petshops selling them before.

i bought mine in pet safari (ikano) at rm500

as of last week, they still have one sulcata left. Not sure now la

Nice ones comes with a price.

I store him inside a 4ft tank with a filteration system. Change water once a week or once in 2 weeks ? Erkkk... Ive kept them inside the aquarium tank for at least 6 months and this is the first time ive encountered the problem. I dont think its the acid problem. Its either the fish is sensitive or the fungi growth at the top wood cover.

de price of a stars still OK... de price of the sulcata are sure high for a tortoise beginner...

i think last month liddat i've seen an ally snapper in the pet shop in Petaling Street tat do sell exotics like snakes and tarantulas... well, tat snapper is baby snapper i guess... (or izzit mata mata... can't differentiate tho... hehe...) and selling for RM450... but poor guy were treated badly... they put it inside a stagnant of low water inside a plastic container (neh... those plastic containers where u go Tesco or Carrefour buy those mee goreng ready to eat type in a plastic container...) those type lor... kesian oso... and de water we muddy color d... hmm... treated badly... donno now they still have it or not? de last time i went to Petaling Street, i din went into tat shop...

anyone been to tat shop and save de poor turtle?

one more if anyone of u went to Pudu... i'm sure u'll bumped into 2 star tortoises in a small enclosure... asked de price and it will cost us RM1K++ for one... they oso very arrogrant too... huh!

de hatchling they are selling for RM98...

That's why a sulcata is not a beginner's tortoise.

Which shop in Petaling Street ? I never been there and dont know how to go there too. Is there lots of choices there ? And i dont think that's a snapper baby with that price. Its a mata-mata baby i guess.

there are a few shops around petaling street area (which the jalan sultan ones oso considered count as petaling street area lor...) most of them sell dogs n cats and a 1 or 2 mainly on birds...

there's one shop which they do have exotics but u'll never haf guess from the outlook that they have this exotics... it's hidden from the look coz' most buyers are lured in to see dogs and cats... and another thing is those shops are old and looks dirty which indeed they are... hmm...

the most 'new' and clean pet shops ard in petaling street area is petsmore lor... have a radiated and baby stars... if i can recall, de radiated are RM1.5K and baby stars are priced at RM120 or RM130...

it's not worth purposely going to have a look... not tat they are way more cheaper... but if passby, no harm taking a sneak peak lor... hehe...

uzairi... i got nothing to do now and i saw ur link on 'My pet's picture'... i clicked on it and i saw ur alligator turtles! whoa!

it looks coOL! looks so fierce like a mini alligator... ei, mind telling me what is de price range for an alligator turtle? i've never seen any in pet shops yet... won't cost a hand and a leg wan, izzit??

ur shot of ur alligator aka hunter damn is coOL ler...

Well, for babies it costs around rm200. Big ones depends on the colour, and how nice it looks. Roughly i would say rm500 for a nice ones. But they are limited so its hard to find them. There's 2 in Pets Family at ss24/8 but they costs rm1k like that if im not mistaken.

if i can recall correctly, i think i saw them before in pet shops my fren brought me to de time my fren is looking for sugar glider... i remembered now...

it was these kind of alligator turtles and they have a full tanks of em... but i din notice the price as tat time i wasn't interested in exotics turtles... (tat time oledi having my 2 RES)

i did saw it snap de small fishes... but i din saw de price... and i saw alot of em... all are hatchlings...

so, it's priced at >RM200 for hatchlings ha?? okie okie... price range noted... thanks for it... if i did bumped into any, i won't looked dumb on de pricing... hahaaa!

so, how's ur hunter now? de one u said not feeling so well is hunter or predator? and wat's de SCL for ur predator now?



This post has been edited by ekiddie: Sep 18 2006, 12:46 AM

uzairi, elongated is more expensive than star tortoise now lah. hehe.. so stars is still the cheapest tortoise in market.

ooo.... water basic turtle...i think we got two. one is a razorback if i not mistaken. another one is new one, is something that look like a Three-keeled Musk Turtle (i say it depend on what he told me, that is the turtle shell shape like a 'w' )

i saw the pancakes tortoise at last...eee... it is not as what i thinking before...... huh~~~ so i decided not to add it into my pet list! hehe... now i will stop with my 3 stars, and while waiting for chaco tortoise, i will rare sugar glider! haha...

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uh uh! double post again. why in here most of us keep on double post ah? hehe...

This post has been edited by dai86: Sep 18 2006, 12:27 AM

is in g floor lah. got time came find me lah! hehe..

ooo...i dun like leopard and sulcata and also radiated...cause they are too big! hehe... i like small tortoise with bright color~~ like star and chaco. hehe...

oh ya, uzairi, the selling price for 3 inch elongated and bout 5 inch pancakes is rm300 and rm350. hehe... pancakes is much cheaper than the elongated. huh~