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 LYN Proton Saga/Iswara Driver's Thread! V28, Keep on Keeping on!

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homerthewhopper
post Dec 17 2014, 04:37 PM

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Hi guys i would like to share my 1.3 iswara's fc here.
Last time i filled up rm50 got me about 280 to 300km. i am wondering whether this is normal since my brother's hyundai elantra could go more than 320 with the same price hmm.gif
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post Dec 17 2014, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(homerthewhopper @ Dec 17 2014, 04:37 PM)
Hi guys i would like to share my 1.3 iswara's fc here.
Last time i filled up rm50 got me about 280 to 300km. i am wondering whether this is normal since my brother's hyundai elantra could go more than 320 with the same price hmm.gif
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please use fuelly.com and monitor at least 2-3 fuel ups with full tank until the pump clicks.
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post Dec 17 2014, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(homerthewhopper @ Dec 17 2014, 04:37 PM)
Hi guys i would like to share my 1.3 iswara's fc here.
Last time i filled up rm50 got me about 280 to 300km. i am wondering whether this is normal since my brother's hyundai elantra could go more than 320 with the same price hmm.gif
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RM50 @ price of RM2.26/lit gives you 22.1 litre which is only half tankful, and as Quazacolt said (and also from my own tracking experience) it is not enough for accuracy.

There are also other factors like traffic conditions, driver's foot etc to be considered for meaningful comparison.
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post Dec 18 2014, 01:57 AM

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right now saving money to replace my old 13inch rim "besi"

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QUOTE(myproton999 @ Dec 17 2014, 12:48 PM)
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yes,the idle screw already adjust on position ~0.8rpm (after enigine start for long time) but when start engine frm long parking ~2rpm..the moving item not rest at the idle screw..after few minute only slowly become rest to the idle screw.. this is normal? i never face this on the old carb..
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QUOTE(Albert B @ Dec 17 2014, 03:25 PM)
From your description the cold idle autochoke is too high. As the engine gets hotter, the autochoke slowly goes to hot position and the metal reaches the idle screw.

There are 2 screws on the other side (the autochoke side) which is related to the cold rpm. I have not adjusted these screws before, but you can try with cold engine and see what happens. From what I read, some say adjust no.1, some say adjust no.2.
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Not sure if I got it right : my opinion on the screws to adjust (for cold engine idle speed):

Adjust only screw no.1. Screw no.2 can also be used, but it might affect other things like cable free play...

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post Dec 19 2014, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(homerthewhopper @ Dec 17 2014, 04:37 PM)
Hi guys i would like to share my 1.3 iswara's fc here.
Last time i filled up rm50 got me about 280 to 300km. i am wondering whether this is normal since my brother's hyundai elantra could go more than 320 with the same price hmm.gif
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Bro your car is manual right ? RM50 go for 280 to 300km is quite ok already..My family car Toyota SEG 1.6 only achieved 250-260km only hmm.gif
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post Dec 19 2014, 05:26 PM

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Hi found out got water dripping on my under glove passenger side.

Need to service the cooling coil i guess.

Anybody done it b4?

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post Dec 19 2014, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(feralee @ Dec 19 2014, 05:26 PM)
Hi found out got water dripping on my under glove passenger side.

Need to service the cooling coil i guess.

Anybody done it b4?
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I had this water overflow problem too. It was caused by the outlet tube clogged.

I connect a garden hose to the outlet tube and supplied water (reverse flow) for a short time, then dis-connect and let the water flow out.

Did this a couple of times, after that no more overflow.
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QUOTE(Albert B @ Dec 19 2014, 06:09 PM)
I had this water overflow problem too. It was caused by the outlet tube clogged.

I connect a garden hose to the outlet tube and supplied water (reverse flow) for a short time, then dis-connect and let the water flow out.

Did this a couple of times, after that no more overflow.
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which outlet tube?


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post Dec 19 2014, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(feralee @ Dec 19 2014, 06:23 PM)
which outlet tube?
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Left side of car, attached to firewall, about 5 inches long, pointing down (if I am not mistaken, as in attached photo).

One more thing : before doing the reverse water flow, I tried poking the inside the tube with a wire to clear the dust ball...


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post Dec 19 2014, 07:01 PM

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I diyed changed my autochoke last 2 months ago and problem solved and recently the car started to jerk again when earlier at the morning. And the kit comes with a needle, rubber o ring, bronze ring, new silver screw cap for the autochoke when i changed earlier.

There is this black screw similar to the silver screw cap size 23mm if not mistaken. What if i change to this black screw thing, will it back to normal again? Or nid to service the autochoke by replacing the kit again?
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QUOTE(Albert B @ Dec 19 2014, 06:49 PM)
Left side of car, attached to firewall, about 5 inches long, pointing down (if I am not mistaken, as in attached photo).

One more thing : before doing the reverse water flow, I tried poking the inside the tube with a wire to clear the dust ball...
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Ohh thx.

But i will send to aircond shop. Dunno to do. Some more my car haven't service air cond b4 since got the car in 2003. laugh.gif
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post Dec 19 2014, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(fishncatz @ Dec 19 2014, 07:01 PM)
I diyed changed my autochoke last 2 months ago and problem solved and recently the car started to jerk again when earlier at the morning. And the kit comes with a needle, rubber o ring, bronze ring, new silver screw cap for the autochoke when i changed earlier.

There is this black screw similar to the silver screw cap size 23mm if not mistaken. What if i change to this black screw thing, will it back to normal again? Or nid to service the autochoke by replacing the kit again?
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Is your autochoke kit same as in the photo?

That black thing included in the kit - where does it fit in the autochoke? I does not look
interchangeable with the silver screw. Any instructions came with the kit?

Your autochoke parts are new , why do you suspect the jerking is from the autochoke? From what
I understand, if the "needle" move out when engine is hot, retract when cold, it is working
fine.

There are other things that may be at fault in the carburettor, for example the air bleed
passages could be clogged. Or the misfire could be from the ignition system (spark plug,
distributor). I also have misfire during warm-up after I park overnight in the rain, which I
suspect is condensation messing up the high-voltage system.


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QUOTE(Albert B @ Dec 19 2014, 08:36 PM)
Is your autochoke kit same as in the photo?

That black thing included in the kit - where does it fit in the autochoke? I does not look
interchangeable with the silver screw. Any instructions came with the kit?

Your autochoke parts are new , why do you suspect the jerking is from the autochoke? From what
I understand, if the "needle" move out when engine is hot, retract when cold, it is working
fine.

There are other things that may be at fault in the carburettor, for example the air bleed
passages could be clogged. Or the misfire could be from the ignition system (spark plug,
distributor). I also have misfire during warm-up after I park overnight in the rain, which I
suspect is condensation messing up the high-voltage system.
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yes is same as the kit. Is actually the camera angle that make the black bolt looks smaller than the silver bolt. But i wonder what does the black bolt do? When i measure the outer diameter, is actually the same with the silver bolt.

My car actually started fine after changing the kit with the rpm set to 1.5k for cold start up. Just few days ago it started with 1k rpm for cold start and jerk a little and after the car move for awhile, the rpm shoot up to 1.5k rpm and drop to 900 rpm when engine is warmed up.
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QUOTE(fishncatz @ Dec 19 2014, 10:32 PM)
yes is same as the kit. Is actually the camera angle that make the black bolt looks smaller than the silver bolt. But i wonder what does the black bolt do? When i measure the outer diameter, is actually the same with the silver bolt.

My car actually started fine after changing the kit with the rpm set to 1.5k for cold start up. Just few days ago it started with 1k rpm for cold start and jerk a little and after the car move for awhile, the rpm shoot up to 1.5k rpm and drop to 900 rpm when engine is warmed up.
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I looked up but was unable to find any info on the mystery black screw.

Anyway, in this forum version V26 there was a member sharing info on the autochoke, see:
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=56384094

He mentioned about a screw cap (B) outside the autochoke, looks like the fuel inlet... Maybe he meant the air-fuel adjust screw...

Hope other members could help with this...
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post Dec 20 2014, 04:46 PM

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This is how my cooling coil look like after 11 years didn't service laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

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QUOTE(feralee @ Dec 20 2014, 04:46 PM)
This is how my cooling coil look like after 11 years didn't service laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Wow, looks nasty. tongue.gif

Albert: Just tried the black bolt. It doesn't want to turn in. And I dont bother to go much further on this thing. will find one day nie experiment on this bolt. smile.gif

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QUOTE(feralee @ Dec 20 2014, 04:46 PM)
This is how my cooling coil look like after 11 years didn't service laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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What items were serviced or replaced, and the costs? I need to make time do mine too.
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QUOTE(Albert B @ Dec 20 2014, 05:51 PM)
What items were serviced or replaced, and the costs? I need to make time  do mine too.
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Cooling coil APM - RM180
Extension valve - Rm65
Receiver Drier - RM55
Gas - RM50
Flushing - RM50
Vacuum - RM50
Labour - RM100



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