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post Dec 23 2014, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Dec 23 2014, 12:51 AM)
HLE broking. good for local market. but charge me USD30 when i purchase a stock from NYSE.  sweat.gif

technically, buy USD 30, sell USD 30 = USD60  unsure.gif
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yeah.. local brokers tend to charge round this range. but if you switch onto those US discount brokers like IB.. way cheaper.
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post Dec 23 2014, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Dec 23 2014, 01:13 AM)
yeah.. local brokers tend to charge round this range. but if you switch onto those US discount brokers like IB.. way cheaper.
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sorry what's IB?

any recommendation on US brokers that i can register in Msia? tried finding abit but sesat. hence, asking here.
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post Dec 23 2014, 02:42 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 23 2014, 12:54 AM)
$30/trade.. that's high.  shocking.gif  Does this involve a human remisier assisted trade?

$30 could mean 30 trades for me..
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if you look at percentage, it's not that high (but still higher than you, i am sure). The minimum charge is about total of US$30.
for transactions around RM10k, i see the total charges pretty much same for US and HK shares (about US$30), so I assume they are close. I did transaction for RM20k on HK stock before, and the charges just slightly higher at about US$40, which gives a rate of 0.66%, not too bad I guess.
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post Dec 23 2014, 08:19 AM

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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Dec 23 2014, 01:13 AM)
yeah.. local brokers tend to charge round this range. but if you switch onto those US discount brokers like IB.. way cheaper.
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But IB requires minimum of USD $10K to open an account, right? shocking.gif
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post Dec 23 2014, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 23 2014, 12:51 AM)
Remember when Goldman said Oil will go to $200 when it was $140 back in '08?.. then it reverses and went down.

The thing is when a lot people start talking about $40 oil, it most likely it will not happen and likely to bottom in the 50s and move back up. A lot of times, they overshoot to the downside.

As for Opec,, funny argument from them they're saying non-Opec members should cut back production.. not them.  tongue.gif
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Conspiracy theory is to whack Russia by sacrificing a couple of US shale oil producer whistling.gif
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post Dec 23 2014, 08:42 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 23 2014, 01:08 AM)
i like to think that the selling was a bit overdone like it always happen; good probability it will recover 10-15% soon and hover there for some time. the case of oil can't be like gold which never recovered, maybe not for 10 yrs!

anyway, i have a passion for oil having worked in that industry for some years a long time ago. so, just bought bits of slb and oih for old time sake. tongue.gif

will look for opportunity to buy some aapl n msft. with that, i'll be happy just to sit back for a while. wink.gif

good nite.
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Since you're buy and hold type, why not add those boring but good stocks like coke, walmart, p&g etc.
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post Dec 23 2014, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Dec 23 2014, 08:42 AM)
Since you're buy and hold type, why not add those boring but good stocks like coke, walmart, p&g etc.
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firstly, i m more interested in etf's, already got some spy.
secondly, the recent oil slump provides an entry opportunity for energy stocks.
small purchases only...
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post Dec 23 2014, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Dec 23 2014, 01:34 AM)
sorry what's IB?

any recommendation on US brokers that i can register in Msia? tried finding abit but sesat. hence, asking here.
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IB = Interactive Brokers; offer the best and cheapest rate you can get in the market, at least for retail traders thumbup.gif

You can also consider thinkorswim/TD Ameritrade, OptionXpress.
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post Dec 23 2014, 11:11 PM

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Just catching up after a long holiday~
wow new high and i missed out the big downside correction and the rebounce ohmy.gif
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post Dec 23 2014, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(morning06 @ Dec 23 2014, 11:11 PM)
Just catching up after a long holiday~
wow new high and i missed out the big downside correction and the rebounce  ohmy.gif
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Santa rally is here...for general indexes except for Commodities

Crude Oil still bad.. but Oil services (XLE) have rebounded but not old highs yet.
Gold still bad..
Russia rubles still toilet paper.. perhaps a little help from China can set the floor at 1 USD = 55-60 rubles. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 24 2014, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 23 2014, 11:32 PM)
Santa rally is here...for general indexes except for Commodities
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i hope so!

reading cbnc, bloomberg n watching the screen for the last 3 hrs or so gave me the feeling that the fine gdp figures n low oil price will be a bonanza for spenders in usa. maybe not so much here with a weak rm tongue.gif , but people will spend on tech, right?!

certainly toppish, but i went ahead n got some aapl and qqq (nasdaq etf). msft was just hard for me to swallow, gave up.

i have completed the purchases for my small portfolio of s&p-energy-tech for this first round, will just see what happens next.



for us stock starters, i'll say the yahoo finance real time streams are good, reliable, if u do not subscribe to paid streams. i use that with cimb itrade.

lastly, i can see how it can sap yr energy if u stay up late every night to trade. notworthy.gif i m already exhausted after a few late nights. exciting? oh yes, much more so than bursa or sgx! biggrin.gif

good nite...

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post Dec 24 2014, 02:58 AM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 24 2014, 01:31 AM)
lastly, i can see how it can sap yr energy if u stay up late every night to trade. notworthy.gif  i m already exhausted after a few late nights. exciting? oh yes, much more so than bursa or sgx! biggrin.gif

good nite...
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Sure thing... I'm in the same boat if I stay up during the day. Since my working hours are in the evening..
10pm to 7am... no problem here for US times. Already adjusted for the past 5 years. Only get back to normal hours during holidays or weekend. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 24 2014, 02:58 AM)
Sure thing... I'm in the same boat if I stay up during the day.  Since my working hours are in the evening..
10pm to 7am... no problem here for US times. Already adjusted for the past 5 years.  Only get back to normal hours during holidays or weekend. biggrin.gif
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graveyard shift factory hand or bigtime int'l fund manager? brows.gif
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post Dec 24 2014, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 24 2014, 12:00 PM)
graveyard shift factory hand or bigtime int'l fund manager? brows.gif
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The only fund that I am managing are my own family ones... biggrin.gif

Btw, watch your stop for XLE tonight... better not drop below 79. It seems the big money are taking profits for Christmas
after 5 good days of bull run.

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post Dec 25 2014, 01:03 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 24 2014, 11:01 PM)
The only fund that I am managing are my own family ones...  biggrin.gif

Btw, watch your stop for XLE tonight... better not drop below 79. It seems the big money are taking profits for Christmas
after 5 good days of bull run.
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Me too. Sold all SPXL just now for 15% profit. Good Christmas present. laugh.gif

Merry Christmas. wink.gif

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post Dec 27 2014, 03:56 AM

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stock bull continues, oil bull diminishing. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 28 2014, 04:20 PM

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Not enough capital to play us stock yet...

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post Dec 28 2014, 04:41 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 28 2014, 04:20 PM)
Not enough capital to play us stock yet...

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i m scared to "play" us stocks:
.. my brokerage fees are too high using local ib platform.
.. to get much lower fees, u need to open usd acc somewhere outside msia, i believe.
.. us markets are far more volatile that bursa, so u gotta be prepared to stay up late in the night(s).

my prime reason to move some funds from bursa to us stocks is primarily the issue of the weak-n-continue-to weaken rm.
think about it - crude n commodities prices hammered n not recovering any time soon, all categories of debts soaring, skeletons in the 1mdb and other closets; increasing unfavorableness for foreign investors, no viable big economic plans and do-nothing-gomen... how likely will rm strengthen? i think nil.

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post Dec 28 2014, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Dec 22 2014, 11:47 PM)
fyi, for cimb's iTrade, every foreign account transaction will first "buy the currency", then "trade with the currency" and you may choose not to change back into RM if selling foreign shares. As for my iTrade, there are currently 3 sub-accounts to deal with HKD, USD and RM although all 3 still managed under one integrated iTRade account. So no double charged.  laugh.gif
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1. Does this foreign fund collect interests?
2. Assuming yes, how much is the interest, and how much is the interest for RM funds?
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post Dec 30 2014, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 24 2014, 11:01 PM)
The only fund that I am managing are my own family ones...  biggrin.gif

Btw, watch your stop for XLE tonight... better not drop below 79. It seems the big money are taking profits for Christmas
after 5 good days of bull run.
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xle is holding well. spy, qqq, appl almost back to all time highs!

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