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post Dec 17 2014, 09:27 AM

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Tesla share drop below 200usd for the 1st time in the last 2 years...a good buy if anyone interested...normally it hovers around 230-245...
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post Dec 17 2014, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 17 2014, 09:27 AM)
Tesla share drop below 200usd for the 1st time in the last 2 years...a good buy if anyone interested...normally it hovers around 230-245...
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Thanks for heads up.. somehow it seems to be less attractive here. Will wait to see if 185 can hold or not.

On other tech stocks: AAPL vs BABA. Almost back to old price of low 100'ish.

Which one do you guys want to do play? biggrin.gif

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post Dec 17 2014, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 17 2014, 11:10 AM)
Which one do you guys want to do play?  biggrin.gif
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hi bro,

been checking up a bit.. like to get yr comments if u dun mind.

i m not trading but just like to put some money in etf's given the outlook of the usd's strength.

other than the recently mentioned appl, baba, tsla, spy and mdy, do you think these are reasonable ones to consider:

voo - s&p etf
ivv - s&P etf
xle - energy etf... consider if n when the energy sector stabilizes

is it correct to say the several s&p etf's are just from diff companies, slight diff in basket composition but basically the same except for daily volume, i.e. liquidity?

appreciate any comment, thanks.
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post Dec 17 2014, 12:49 PM

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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 17 2014, 12:35 PM)
hi bro,

been checking up a bit.. like to get yr comments if u dun mind.

i m not trading but just like to put some money in etf's given the outlook of the usd's strength.

other than the recently mentioned appl, baba, tsla, spy and mdy, do you think these are reasonable ones to consider:

voo - s&p etf
ivv - s&P etf
xle - energy etf... consider if n when the energy sector stabilizes

is it correct to say the several s&p etf's are just from diff companies, slight diff in basket composition but basically the same except for daily volume, i.e. liquidity?

appreciate any comment, thanks.
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I would say yes to your question. I'm not familar with voo and ivv but am familar with XLE (energy sector). Pretty broad based - mostly composed of US large cap in Oil and Gas exploration. I think small numbers are in shale too.
Crude Oil goes down.. so does XLE in some manner but not always. XLE companies are also in SP500. SPY goes up, XLE will sometimes follow.




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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 17 2014, 12:49 PM)
I would say yes to your question.  I'm not familar with voo and ivv but am familar with XLE (energy sector). Pretty broad based - mostly composed of US large cap in Oil and Gas exploration. I think small numbers are in shale too.
Crude Oil goes down.. so does XLE in some manner but not always.  XLE companies are also in SP500.  SPY goes up, XLE will sometimes follow.
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thanks much for comments.

now checking some details with broker. may be buying first counter this week.
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 17 2014, 11:10 AM)
Thanks for heads up.. somehow it seems to be less attractive here. Will wait to see if 185 can hold or not.

On other tech stocks:  AAPL vs BABA. Almost back to old price of low 100'ish.

Which one do you guys want to do play?  biggrin.gif
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definitely apple. still waiting it to drop to 100 or lower. biggrin.gif
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post Dec 17 2014, 08:34 PM

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interesting, this XLE etf. Will monitor it for oil play. brows.gif
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post Dec 18 2014, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Dec 17 2014, 08:34 PM)
interesting, this XLE etf. Will monitor it for oil play.  brows.gif
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For leverage play, ERX (bull 3x), ERY (bear 3x).
Be very careful with either one of those two. They can be deadly (if you're wrong) or treasure chest (if you're right). biggrin.gif

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post Dec 18 2014, 12:41 AM

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Holy cow... gamings stocks kena kau kau...

Take a look at LVS, MPEL, MGM, WYNN..

All getting whacked from Xi JinPing anti-graft policy. No more China VIPs player wants to play in Macau anymore? hmm.gif


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post Dec 18 2014, 01:38 AM

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i made my 2 maiden us purchases just now. biggrin.gif

as i do not hv realtime subscription, i used yahoo fin for real time data, place orders on cimb itrade. yahoofin data is pretty realtime as i can see it when done at the correct time on itrade which is realtime for orders processing. overall, worked fine. actually using a tiny atom netbook to do this while waiting for new pc to arrive.

first time, quite pleased with it.

bought spy n xle (becos crude jumped 4%). in tens of shares, not thousands. laugh.gif

now, will see if crude rebound holds and how usd-rm will work out in the coming months...
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Auntie Yellen is really powerful. She didn't really have to say anything or change any policy. Her appearance alone scared all the bears and make the bulls happy. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 18 2014, 01:38 AM)
bought spy n xle (becos crude jumped 4%). in tens of shares, not thousands. laugh.gif

now, will see if crude rebound holds and how usd-rm will work out in the coming months...
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Good luck! I hope it will work out for you! thumbup.gif

I've not bought back my SPY shares that was called away at 207.

I'm waiting for 195 or lower.
Maybe I will not get it by Christmas..but that's ok, I sold the 195 puts and continue to sell it until it happens.


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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 18 2014, 12:07 AM)
For leverage play, ERX (bull 3x), ERY (bear 3x).
Be very careful with either one of those two. They can be deadly (if you're wrong) or treasure chest (if you're right).  biggrin.gif
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Thanks! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 18 2014, 01:53 AM)
Auntie Yellen is really powerful. She didn't really have to say anything or change any policy. Her appearance alone scared all the bears and make the bulls happy.  biggrin.gif
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Now good news (rate hike) is good news for stock market? biggrin.gif
We'll have to see if today is a fake bull or not. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 18 2014, 01:57 AM)
Good luck! I hope it will work out for you!  thumbup.gif

I've not bought back my SPY shares that was called away at 207.

I'm waiting for 195 or lower.
Maybe I will not get it by Christmas..but that's ok, I sold the 195 puts and continue to sell it until it happens.
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thanks.

i bought early into the rally, finished good. so, it was a good start for me.

planning to add a bit more next few days if conditions favorable.

one thing i noticed... for a usd200 stock, prices in increment of 1 cent can swing from 200.30 to 200.02 to 199.64 within 20 secs!
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QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 18 2014, 09:57 AM)
thanks.

i bought early into the rally, finished good. so, it was a good start for me.

planning to add a bit more next few days if conditions favorable.

one thing i noticed... for a usd200 stock, prices in increment of 1 cent can swing from 200.30 to 200.02 to 199.64 within 20 secs!
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SPY is very liquid because a lot of funds own it. They're in controlled by trading machines.

Did you also notice that XLE move in tandem with SPY and disconnected itself from Crude oil?
Crude price didn't move up much today.


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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 18 2014, 11:35 AM)
Did you also notice that XLE move in tandem with SPY and disconnected itself from Crude oil?
Crude price didn't move up much today.
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i only saw all of them moved up as oil moved up, hit the sack soon after. biggrin.gif

but think u r right - xle has oil corps, oil services, other energy, upstream n downstream... so it's probably more "connected" to overall S&P than just crude price.

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VIX - still below expectations.
Should reaches 26pts and above to have fear / panic situation.. Best time to bargain some shopping?

Year of Horse didn't progress much, as many ppls expects great hope/expectation on this zodiac animal.
See how the year of Goat ? IMHO Jan 2015 will be another opportunity (if VIX uptrend) to add more portfolios .. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(netmask8 @ Dec 18 2014, 01:48 PM)
VIX - still below expectations.
Should reaches 26pts and above to have fear / panic situation.. Best time to bargain some shopping?

Year of Horse didn't progress much, as many ppls expects great hope/expectation on this zodiac animal.
See how the year of Goat ? IMHO Jan 2015 will be another opportunity (if VIX uptrend) to add more portfolios .. hmm.gif
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Yeah? Only Chinese ppls has great hope/expectation on Year of Horse and they didn't get disappointment at all.

Take a look at China's stock market - SHCOMP... 45% rise since August .. it's been a fantastic year for China! biggrin.gif



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