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danmooncake
post Dec 13 2014, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Dec 13 2014, 12:01 PM)
thx for the clarification. never trade in S&P500 b4. only NYSE  laugh.gif
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Don't get confused. NYSE is the Exchange, not a stock. SP500 is just basically a name of 500 large cap US MNC companies.


QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 13 2014, 12:21 PM)
hi bro,

i m just starting to look into us stocks.

on nyse, is s&p500 code spx or something else? can't seem to find it.

found spy which is spdr s&p500, closed 200.60, right?

besides the popular ones on nasdaq, what are some of the big and mid cap caps on nyse that i can take a look at?

just getting started, any pointer will be useful. thanks!
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SP500 means Big Caps already... yes, just use SPY (the ETF) as ticker.

Mid Caps ticker is MDY

Just go google S&P MIDCAP 400® ETF and you find the list of 400 mid caps companies in this ETF.


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post Dec 13 2014, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 13 2014, 08:47 AM)
Yes, the actual price of SP500 is $2K.

But, SPY (the most popular ETF which tracks SP500) is just 1/10 of the actual price.
Still, it is more than $100..

If SPY actually drops $100, you will see recession.  biggrin.gif
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any broker provide leverage for like 1:50 or 1:100?
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post Dec 13 2014, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 13 2014, 12:58 PM)
Don't get confused. NYSE is the Exchange, not a stock. SP500 is just basically a name of 500 large cap US MNC companies.
SP500 means Big Caps already... yes, just use SPY (the ETF) as ticker.

Mid Caps ticker is MDY

Just go google S&P MIDCAP 400® ETF and you find the list of 400 mid caps companies in this ETF.
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thanks.

been googling n reading a bit...

i notice on my nyse trading platform that many etf's have high volumes. spy seems by far, the top volume. i can see many also listed as top volume etf's on this list.
http://www.barchart.com/etf/vleaders.php

this list of 10 "top" large cap etf's, with spy at #5, mdy not on it. seems some are very low vol traded. i seem to see the"top" ones are 100% usa equities.
http://money.usnews.com/funds/etfs/rankings/large-cap-funds

can i ask:
.. is it correct to say etf's are popular for reason of diversification, like unit trusts only that etfs are tradeable any time, in usd?
.. etf's investment and trading - any major difference compared to individual stocks?
.. what is spdr? i notice many etfs have this attached to it
.. for etf's, how is dividend treated given a basket of equities?
.. given the dive in gold, oil, commodity prices in the last yr or so, wud it be correct to say gold, oil and emerging markets etf's generally did badly in the same period?

just starting, so any comment appreciated incl yr own experience with any of these counters , thanks again.

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post Dec 13 2014, 04:29 PM

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raising market but lower in volume, what does this indicated? red flag?
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QUOTE(my40789 @ Dec 13 2014, 04:29 PM)
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raising market but lower in volume, what does this indicated? red flag?
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naturally volume divergences are a potential flag, but not enough to bring it down. the US market is a different animal altogether thanks to the drug called the Fed.
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Dec 12 2014, 03:49 PM)
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wan to ask, where i can find info about invest in US stock?

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you can ask away in this thread i guess.
brokerages you can always start with the locals which offer US trading.
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post Dec 13 2014, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(my40789 @ Dec 13 2014, 04:29 PM)
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raising market but lower in volume, what does this indicated? red flag?
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SP500 spend 95b to buy back shares from their shareholders

below buy signal generated from metatrader platform

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post Dec 14 2014, 01:18 AM

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QUOTE(highlowyat @ Dec 13 2014, 02:50 PM)
any broker provide leverage for like 1:50 or 1:100?
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Yes, for this kind of leverage, it is call Options! biggrin.gif
Google around Stock Options to find out more.
Warning: Stock Options are not for rookies.


QUOTE(AVFAN @ Dec 13 2014, 03:01 PM)
can i ask:
.. is it correct to say etf's are popular for reason of diversification, like unit trusts only that etfs are tradeable any time, in usd?
.. etf's investment and trading - any major difference compared to individual stocks?
.. what is spdr? i notice many etfs have this attached to it
.. for etf's, how is dividend treated given a basket of equities?
.. given the dive in gold, oil, commodity prices in the last yr or so, wud it be correct to say gold, oil and emerging markets etf's generally did badly in the same period?

just starting, so any comment appreciated incl yr own experience with any of these counters , thanks again.
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-- ETFs are created for NOT because of diversification alone but because of COST (as compared to unit trusts aka. mutual funds).
It is cheaper to trade ETF, just like stocks.
-- ETFs can be certain sectors: Transport, Oil, Housing, REITs, Commodities, Gaming, Dividends, Emerging market, World markets, etc...
-- SPDR is just one of the company that created the ETFs.
-- Dividends distribution are treated differently depending on how many stocks inside the ETF itself. You have to read its disclosures..
-- Yes, for any of the ETFs that have been tracking Gold, Oil and other commodities who had gone down in prices, their prices also have gone down in the same manner.. but their percentage are different.

Hope this helps!

QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Dec 13 2014, 04:48 PM)
naturally volume divergences are a potential flag, but not enough to bring it down. the US market is a different animal altogether thanks to the drug called the Fed.
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Ha ha! Correct... the Fed (the doctor) has stop the flow of additional drug. Now, the patient (the economy) is on its own.




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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 13 2014, 08:48 AM)
You think 50ma cannot hold here? If 1950, I will be all in again! Just -50 pts away...  drool.gif
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people are panic for oil price now.....panic panic, they are... tongue.gif
in fact, i'm looking at between 1900 and 1950... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Dec 14 2014, 08:38 AM)
people are panic for oil price now.....panic panic, they are...  tongue.gif
in fact, i'm looking at between 1900 and 1950...  biggrin.gif
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Any pointers on how market will behave durin those two historical crisis? Such panic habe effect almist majority of hares movement...
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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 14 2014, 01:18 AM)
Yes, for this kind of leverage, it is call Options!  biggrin.gif
Google around Stock Options to find out more.
Warning: Stock Options are not for rookies.
-- ETFs are created for NOT because of diversification alone but because of COST (as compared to unit trusts aka. mutual funds).
    It is cheaper to trade ETF, just like stocks.
-- ETFs can be certain sectors: Transport, Oil, Housing, REITs, Commodities, Gaming, Dividends, Emerging market, World markets, etc...
-- SPDR is just one of the company that created the ETFs.
-- Dividends distribution are treated differently depending on how many stocks inside the ETF itself. You have to read its disclosures..
-- Yes, for any of the ETFs that have been tracking Gold, Oil and other commodities who had gone down in prices, their prices also have gone down in the same manner.. but their percentage are different.

Hope this helps!
Ha ha! Correct...  the Fed (the doctor) has stop the flow of additional drug. Now, the patient (the economy) is on its own.
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thanks, appreciate it. will read up.
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QUOTE(highlowyat @ Dec 13 2014, 02:50 PM)
any broker provide leverage for like 1:50 or 1:100?
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Stock is not like forex lah bro.
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QUOTE(kimyee73 @ Dec 15 2014, 10:01 AM)
Stock is not like forex lah bro.
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got lar. its called margin financing but i dunno how much they offer
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Dec 12 2014, 05:16 PM)
yeah..totally agree we're nowhere near the 09 sentiment.

ok ive recreated the chart on the monthly WTI
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you've got sub-56 as near term supports i guess.
but.. looking at this ive got some plays i wanna try out brows.gif
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56 held this morning.. Have to see how many bounces it can hold hmm.gif
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QUOTE(highlowyat @ Dec 15 2014, 12:30 PM)
got lar. its called margin financing but i dunno how much they offer
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Ya lah but not that high like forex, mostly about around 1:5.
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QUOTE(vin_ann @ Dec 12 2014, 03:49 PM)
hi all,

wan to ask, where i can find info about invest in US stock?

Thanks.
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vin_ann your on the right thread, however your question is a bit general,
any specific information you like to find out?
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Need help from Sifus here. notworthy.gif

Are SPXL and SPXS good ETF choice to track SP500 movement? In terms of tracking accuracy as well as liquidity, I guess. Thanks! notworthy.gif


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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Dec 15 2014, 12:56 PM)
56 held this morning.. Have to see how many bounces it can hold hmm.gif
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2nd bounce off 56 hmm.gif
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Dec 16 2014, 12:16 AM)
Need help from Sifus here.  notworthy.gif

Are SPXL and SPXS good ETF choice to track SP500 movement? In terms of tracking accuracy as well as liquidity, I guess. Thanks!   notworthy.gif
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No, they're not accurate because they're 3x leverage (one bull, one bear) and they reset everyday after the percentage move.
Dangerous to play this if you're on the wrong side.

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QUOTE(danmooncake @ Dec 16 2014, 03:53 AM)
No, they're not accurate because they're 3x leverage (one bull, one bear) and they reset everyday after the percentage move.
Dangerous to play this if you're on the wrong side.
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they reset everyday? that seems "accurate" in a way?
i watched them moving pretty much 3x according to how SP500 moves. Seems quite accurate....
and ya, i am more interested to play 3x, faster moving. biggrin.gif

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