Yeah, Pastor Marvin didn't say "earn" it in that context but he did say "not everyone will repent and go to heaven".

I found his sermons quite easy to understand and unlike other churches, he seems less "ego-testicle" (that's my own lingo BTW).

But yeah let me check out all the churches in PJ first. So many to go to.

Just pray and leave it in the hands of God.

For finding the right church and soulmate.

You can pray for practically anything that worries your heart.
You know why?

Because God loves you so much so that he doesn't want you to worried about your Life.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 5 2014, 12:40 AM

thanks :-)

mine is pj too if you wanna drop by. seksyen19/1

Ah, I was thinking about this verse Matthew 6:25-34, but you know girls worry about what dress to wear, shoes, hairstyle, etc...

But none of that is important, so today I checked out this bible app for android, it says that I can finish reading the bible in one year! Cool!

lol.

Cool! Maybe this Sunday. No speaking in tongues and pestering new church goers right?

yeah. no speaking in tongue in my church. global business park. 4th floor

I've just prayed a prayer for you.

n I'm tagging my other friends to agree with me in prayer.

We leave it in the hands of almighty Father.

I have a question, what is the Church's view on pre marital sex?

I know its wrong, so yeah, please don't judge.

Everybody is a sinner tina, as you said, you know it's wrong.
Just move on with your life and forget about the past.

What I normally do is acknowledge to God that I'm weak in the flesh (everyone is), and pray that he'll hold my hand and lead me in his divine strength that I may walk in his peace. You can try this prayer for yourself.

Bible say that when you acknowledge that you are weak, God strength and grace will come in to strengthen you.

Most people have this idea that you must be strong but God says leave your own strength behind, His strength is more than sufficient to help you in your walk with him. The idea is this: The more you acknowledge that, the more you will depend on Him.

In due time you might not even realize it but when your eyes are constantly focus on Jesus Christ believing that He loves you and his atonement work at the cross is complete for you rather than you focusing on yourself whether you have done enough or have obeyed enough, all these temptations and lust will be remove by the power of the HS.

And it only work in this principal of grace. Receiving Salvation even though you don't deserve it and believing that you are Righteous by Faith even though you don't deserve it.

Hope you get it.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 5 2014, 01:18 AM

Dear Father, we humbly before you. Kindly help annymous1234 in order to get the job. The right job so he can be satisfied in YOU, and content in father's hand. In the name of Jesus we pray: Amen !

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The experience of Jacob

The Competition, Envy, and Wrestling between Jacob's Wives in Bearing Children Pt 1

Jacob's two wives competed in bearing children. This competition put Jacob into the hot oven. 4 women, Laban's 2 daughters and their 2 maids, made life difficult for Jacob. If he had had no preference, he would only have had one wife. Due to his having a preference, he was given four wives. Rachel, the wife of his choice, was not his real wife; his real wife was Leah, the one he did not like. Because of the rivalry between Rachel and Leah, their two maids, Bilhah and Zilpah, were given to Jacob as wives (30:4, 9). These four women were a team playing against Jacob.

As we compare Jacob with Isaac, we see that Isaac was very simple. He had no preference, but accepted whomever and whatever came to him. Thus, the best wife, Rebekah, was given to him. In Isaac's case, there were no complications. But there were many complications in Jacob's case because he had a preference. Nevertheless, Jacob's having his own preference was also under God's sovereignty. Do not despise yourself, saying, "I just hate myself. Why wasn't I born simple?" Rather, you should praise God for your not being simple, saying, "O Lord, thank You for not creating me as a simple person. Praise You, Lord, that I am so complicated." Have you ever thanked and praised God in this way? Do not say, "Oh I'm sorry for the mistakes I made in the past." Even your mistakes are under God's sovereignty. If many of us had never made any mistakes, we would probably not be in the church life today. Praise the Lord that our mistakes have brought us into the church life. Praise God for His sovereignty!

So, not only, the father-in-law, Laban, beguiled Jacob, his son-in-law, he [Jacob] had been given the one he did not like. Here we see God's sovereignty. Then, in addition to Leah and Rachel, two other wives were given to Jacob. Jacob surely did not intend to have four wives. As all the married brothers can testify, one wife is enough. But Jacob no longer had a choice. Four wives were given to him, and there was nothing he could do about it. He was surrounded by them and was no longer free to do what he wanted.

One day, Reuben, Jacob's firstborn, found some mandrakes in the field and gave them to his mother Leah (30:14). According to Song of Songs 7:13, mandrakes are a type of love fruit. When Rachel wanted the mandrakes, Leah said, "Is it a small matter that thou hast taken my husband? And wouldest thou take away my son's mandrakes also?" (30:15). To this Rachel said that Leah might have Jacob that night in exchange for Reuben's mandrakes. When Jacob came from the field that evening, Leah met him and said, "Thou must come in unto me; for surely I have hired thee with my son's mandrakes" (30:16). Jacob had lost his freedom. He was like a volleyball being passed from one person to another. Jacob was in such a predicament because his wives were competing with each other in childbearing.

As we read Jacob's story, we must worship God for His being so sovereign, fair, and purposeful. Jacob loved Rachel, not Leah. But the hated Leah bore him four sons (29:31-35), and the loved Rachel was barren (30:1-2). Genesis 29:31 says, "When the Lord saw that Leah was hated, he opened her womb: but Rachel was barren." Although Leah was hated, she found favor in God's eyes. When Leah gave birth to her firstborn, Reuben, whose name means "See a son," she said, "Surely the Lord hath looked upon my affliction" (29:32). Leah's second son was named Simeon, whose name means "Hearing." After giving birth to Simeon, she said, "Because the Lord hath heard that I was hated, he hath therefore given me this son also" (29:33). Leah's third son was named Levi, whose name means "Joined." When Levi was born, Leah exclaimed, "Now this time will my husband be joined unto me, because I have born him three sons" (29:34). In 29:35 we are told that Leah "conceived again, and bare a son: and she said, "Now will I praise the Lord: therefore she called his name Judah; and left bearing." The name Judah means "Praise." After bearing these four sons, Leah could do nothing except praise the Lord.

I see many broken-ness in

https://forum.lowyat.net/CupidsCorner

Most of the problem can be resolved at least if somebody knows human behaviour, and the certification is below.

http://www.ahd.com.sg/certified_behavioural_consultant.htm.

most ministry can go to next level if all members have deeper understanding of human behavioural imho

1 Peter 4:8
Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins.

Proverbs 10:12
Hatred stirs up conflict, but love covers over all wrongs

Bible Devotions with UW

Keep on coming to God



You know the world says all kind of things about God.

God seems like a judgmental God waiting to send me and punish me to hell, Why God wants me to go to hell since I can't change myself. Why God don't care about me? Things like this.

What does the Bible says?

If you say that God bad, it was his idea to send Jesus Christ for you.
Yes you heard me right. If you think He is a judgmental God, It was the Father God idea to send his son to save your life.

God gave the 10 commandment as a towering evidence, that you cannot save yourself. What is the 10 commandments all about?
Obey all 10 and the rest of the Laws, you will live with the blessings of God on your life. Break any 1 is as good as breaking all of them. You will be punished for every sins you ever committed.
God will also punish you for the sin of your parents to the third and fourth generation

That was how high the standard of God's is. It's a very high standard and it's Holy.
Under the Old Covenant Law, you have to obey ALL OF THEM to be righteous.

Do you think you are able to maintain and uphold all of God's law 24/7?
Anyone who says can is a liar. We humans still don't get it until today. Just have a look at all the other religion of this world.
Their method of Salvation is modeled after this concept. Do good,get good, Do bad, get bad. It's Law based.

Under the Old Covenant, God provided a way out (This is how graceful our God is, despite being Holy) where the High Priests will take your unblemished animal sacrifice and offer it to atone for your sins. That already give you the idea, no one could obey the law completely. Problem will arise when No suitable High Priest is found or selected. Many died of old age unable to continue the role. So what happens to the people? You get the idea.

In the Book of Hebrews, did you know it explains that Jesus became our High Priest? The Bible says the role of the High priest is to represent the people to God. In the interest of the people to God. A prophet is different, He represents God to the people, in the interest of God to the people. Though Jesus is also a prophet but He bear the role of a High Priest more than a prophet.

He is our High Priest today in Heaven, representing us to God. The Priest under the old covenant had to stand and offer sin sacrifices daily and the Bible says it's an imperfect atonement or incomplete atonement. That's why it has to be done yearly. And It's only Symbolically outward clean.

But the blood of Christ is divine. His blood at the cross is for you and I, dear friends. His divine and royal blood is able to completely remove your sins as far is the East is to the West.
The Bible used 2 very important keywords: Completely! And Eternally! What does that mean? Like the Bible says it. Complete means Complete, Eternal means forever. You cannot argue against it, or justify it any other way. The Blood of Christ is able to completely remove all your sins, eternally, Forever!

And God wants you to come to Him daily. Because his son Christ Jesus a High Priest of of an indestructible life (Eternal) is able to Completely Save you!

You may have heard of voices saying only come to God when you are completely Holy or you have sin too much, you don't deserve to come to God. My friend, discard those Satanic voice. Listen to what the Bible say. Nothing could be further than the truth. God wants you to come to Him through Christ Jesus. He never mentioned of what condition you are in that qualifies you.

He just simply says:

COME!

God Bless

Short answer: It's a sin just like any other sin.

Long answer: As a uni student, I must admit that this is one sin that turns off uni students the most. People my age would reason that God is unfair for not letting us express our love to someone we love or that "marriage is just a paper" or that christianity sexually oppresses people.

I can confess that the church has far too long been trying to avoid the topic by making sex a taboo topic; but in reality, the bible talks about sex as if it's a gift from God, and it is! Except like all the gifts of God, the abuse of it (i.e. orgies, pornography etc.) is what the sin is. So the issue isn't sex being evil, but pre-marital sex being wrong.

But then you have the other problem of us living in a sexualized culture: the pressure from the media + our hormones makes remaining pure in thought extremely hard. I used to think that women didn't struggle with sexual temptation but only men; I was wrong.

But if anyone tries to imply that you're a bigger sinner than them for being involved in such things before (just speaking hypothetically here), I bet you that if you had a tape recording of their thoughts in the past few weeks, you'll see that they're not that big of a difference than you are. There are those who have fought temptation and conquered it, but these are the people who can empathize with you best and would care for you the most because they know just how hard it is to fight sin. Only someone who has fought temptation and overcome it would admit to it being hard to overcome. Hence, the best place to go to seek the most loving advice is to another person in the church of the same gender that is older and wiser than you are: 1 to 1 sessions will help.

Of course, that's where finding a good church is important: many of the churches I've been to tend to sweep issues like these under the carpet: because to us asians it seems like a terrible topic to talk about. But this is dangerous because the power of sin is in it's secrecy. A church who thinks that sexual temptation is not an issue, who gossips about people who DO fall into such sin without loving them by trying to help is a unhealthy church.

Mantab !! (good)

Young's Literal Translation of the Bible

I download this material about Young's literal translation of the bible.
heraldmag.org/olb/Contents/bibles/ylt.pdf

I just read PREFACE TO THE REVISED EDITION, and here is the part that i am alarmed / scared

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If a translation gives a "present tense" when the original gives a "past", or a "past" when it has a
"present"; a "perfect" for a "future", or a "future" for a "perfect"; an "a" for a "the", or a "the" for an
"a"; an "imperative" for a "subjunctive", or a "subjunctive" for an "imperative"; a "verb" for a
"noun", or a "noun" for a "verb", it is clear that verbal inspiration is as much overlooked as if it had
no existence. THE WORD OF GOD IS MADE VOID BY THE TRADITIONS OF MEN.
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Does this means that tradition of men really... really has impact on translation ?

Some of you know that i am the guy who Ask for HS. It sounds not intellectual, it sounds childish, and it sounds irresponsible from scholar point of view. I understand. I am a professional and i cannot tell my customer i ask HS. It just not professional.

But after reading Young's preface to the revised edition, all i can tell you is, i get paranoid

1. i will ask HS more. Instead of asking what's the rhema for me, i will ask more "intelligence question". John 10:10... I come to give you live... come is present tense in original greek or present continuous tense ? live is noun or present continuous aspect of living ?

2. then you tell me, that's why study bible properly. get concordance, get hermeneutics, don't interpret macam kacang. My questions: How do i know that tomorrow amazon.com will not release a new material that refutes all of today (or yesterday) understanding ? don't tell me check HS... yes i know check with HS... check what ? what to check ? what to ask HS ?

The idea is, check HS assumed you have question to ask. If you don't have question ? what to ask to HS ?

sorry for being angry, yelled and impatience. It's just alarming for me. if offended, kindly accept my apology.

I think KJV is the fav because many ppl comment it's the closest.

Decky might have some insight.