Is it Faith Methodist Church?

Well, pastors are human too. Yeah, I hate internal politics.

What the...even a Sunday school kids know John 3:16.

So what does a typical cell group do besides bible study? Do I need to bring anything besides my Bible?

We need constant encouragement from our fellow Christians too so that we won't fall back. I think a group prayer helps too. Do you agree?

Is it ChaXXX Christian Centre?

Oh I see, yeah I've been to churches like that before. The worst thing that happened to me was when they told me that I go to hell because I dress like a slut? Example below:-



Is this a slut's dress? Puh-lease.

I've seen girls in local churches that wore shorter and tighter dress compared to this.

Yes I agree and it's a command from God that fellow Christians meet regularly to encourage each other.

Hopefully this thread serve that purpose.


but still, greater strength is found in God who lives in you. That can't be replace no matter what. You need to draw divine strength from him through prayer.
And After praying, believe and act upon it.

Oh typical double standard rules. That sucks. Why do they even bother inviting outsiders to join their congregation?

So that they can ridiculed outsiders and boast their legalistic views?

I really don't understand why this kind of Christians exists in the first place?

Why do they act like Pharisees and like to condemn others?

Matthew 7:3
"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye?

Why are we like this honestly?

sob sob ... so at the end how ?? manage to do better in business or ?? same like my situation ><

not at all la come on ... its proper if you wear dress over knee thats enough ! anyway yo i am CALEB

Ya, of course not all la. Maybe the aunty feel jealous (or insecure) that the dress suits me?

Off topic, are you an authorized Apple seller?

erm .... u mean iphone or accessories ?

Well, I guess there are no "perfect" church then. I just need to find the right balance. Ok, IF I see a mid 30s bald guy in a church, then I know what to do.

Do you sell iPad and Macbook Pro?

The experience of Jacob

The Competition, Envy, and Wrestling between Jacob's Wives in Bearing Children Pt 2

When Leah saw that Rachel's maid had given birth to two sons, she did the same. Leah gave her maid Zilpah to Jacob as a wife and she bore him two sons—Gad and Asher (30:9-13). Gad means "Fortunate," and Asher means "Happy." When Gad was born, Leah said, "Fortunate!" (30:11, Heb.), and when Asher was born, she said, "Happy am I, for the daughters will call me blessed" (30:13). In a good sense, Leah was fortunate because she had borne Jacob four sons herself and two more through her maid. She thought that she was happy and that all women would bless her. In Hebrew, the words happy and blessed are of the same root. Thus, a happy person is a blessed person and a blessed person is a happy person. This was Leah's concept. God gave Leah two more sons: Issachar and Zebulun (30:17-20). The name Issachar means "Hire." When he was born, Leah said, "God hath given me my hire, because I have given my maiden to my husband" (30:18). Deep within, Leah must have thought that Issachar was born because she had hired Jacob by giving Reuben's mandrakes to Rachel. This is a further indication of the competition between these women. When Zebulun was born, Leah said, "God hath endued me with a good dowry; now will my husband dwell with me, because I have born him six sons" (30:20). Leah seemed to be saying, "I don't want Jacob to leave me. I want him to stay with me." In this record we clearly see the competition between Jacob's wives.

At this point, Rachel still had not borne any children of her own. Let us consider the chronology. Jacob went to Laban's home approximately in the year 1760 B.C. and he was married in approximately 1753 B.C. Eight years later, Joseph was born. Under God's sovereign hand, Rachel was barren, not bearing any children until eight years had passed. Then God gave her a son whom she called Joseph, saying, "The Lord shall add to me another son" (30:24). The meaning of the name Joseph—"Adding"—indicates that Rachel wanted God to add another son to her. Her desire was fulfilled six years later with the birth of Benjamin (35:16-20). Delivering Benjamin was a very difficult ordeal for her, costing Rachel her life. Giving birth to Benjamin as she was dying, Rachel "called his name Benoni: but his father called his name Benjamin" (35:18). Benoni means "Son of my sorrow." How meaningful it is that Jacob changed the child's name to Benjamin, which means "The son of the right hand." In the Bible, Benjamin is a type of Christ. Firstly, Christ was Benoni, the Son of sorrow (Isa. 53:3), but eventually He became Benjamin, the Son at the right hand of God (Matt. 26:64).

Rachel gave birth to two sons, but in delivering the second she lost her life. This means that Jacob gained his last son at the cost of his beloved wife. These experiences were like knives which cut Jacob to pieces. Jacob loved Rachel, but she was barren. After giving birth to Joseph, she expected to have a second son. This desire was fulfilled at the cost of her life. Jacob loved Joseph and Benjamin. Among all his twelve sons, they were his two favorites. Although Jacob gained these two sons, God never allowed him to have Rachel, his dear wife, and these two favorite sons at the same time. In the following chapters we shall see how much Jacob suffered over Joseph and Benjamin. In all this, Jacob was constantly under the working of God's sovereign, transforming hand.

How meaningful it is to read these chapters and how helpful it is to see the life they contain. Although these chapters seem quite long, they contain much nourishment for us. The more we consider Jacob's record, the more we realize that our record is exactly the same as his. In God's eyes, Jacob's story is the story of us all. We are today's Jacobs under God's hand, for God is now accomplishing His transforming work in us. Thank Him for His hand and thank Him for His transforming work. Regardless of our situation, environment, and circumstances, we are always under His transforming hand.

Let just say God is faithful and I can attest to that.
He provides all my need. Let just say I consented to the Lord to provide anyway He wants.
I didn't pray that it must be this way or that way, I told the Lord, whatever way you see fit.

And He does!

To me that is God prospering me.

Psalm 35:27 (NAS) - Let them shout for joy and rejoice, who favor my vindication; And let them say continually, "The LORD be magnified, Who delights in the prosperity of His servant."

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 7 2014, 09:52 AM

And I want to apologize to Decky here for being too hard on scripture argument.

My zealousness for The Lord has caused me to an immovable Iron.

I became the very thing I speak against, lol.

So next time, I'm just going refrain myself from responding even, unless asked to explain what I think about it.

Tinarhian blunt question: how voluptuous you are ? how curvaceous and sexually attractive you are ?

why related my body and my dress ? oh yes; for a normal guy like me yes related.

consider this gravure model:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoko_Matsugane

If yoko wears dress the shirt, i can confirm slut's dress. because i can see the boops printed on the nylon shirts... i mean look at the bra size... sculptured and molded nizeee ... sorry slut's dress.

if you are "sorry to say" fat, cubby and old aunty2x body style, lagging, not firm, not fit ... fat here and there... yeah.... not slut's dress.

if you are in between then how ?.... ask HS ... seriously with love and kindness .. ask HS

This post has been edited by de1929: Nov 7 2014, 10:19 AM

Oi Oi You guys.

Tolong behave.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 7 2014, 10:39 AM

That's probably because because you are naturally strong against sexual temptation, which is good.

most guy likely are not naturally strong like you, therefore some church has to defend the guys by raising church standard, at the cost of your liberty

I know we are flawed human being. But probably you don't realize that even if you flawed, you probably above average of "standard guy" already

How to test urself ? i give this steps:

1. go google image yoko matsugane for just 2 to 5 seconds

2. check your self:
a. if you feel so nervous / so horny / so aroused, yes you are "standard guy"...
b. if you feel it's fine, but not comfortable and offensive, and you can resist the yoko matsugane picture from your brain ... WOW GREAT ! you probably far above "standard guy"...

i think.. you are 2b...

I browse yoko picture cuz yoko is a goliath that i should kill. Some goliath looks pretty hahaha.... too bad i just have to kill yoko .... i am a giant killer.

HS asked me to combat pornography through many venues. One of the goal is to make sure i don't get aroused easily. It's personal revelation, and may not be applicable to all brothers / sisters.

I do acknowledge you have point too, and you are biblically correct 100%, most churches will teach you potifar verses and it's fine ...

This post has been edited by de1929: Nov 7 2014, 11:30 AM

Bro Dee,

problem must be dealt at the root (akar).

That's what Jesus meant when he said about plucking out your eyes if it cause you to lust.

Jesus was speaking figuratively to make us think. What he meant was everything starts at the heart and mind.

We need to be convince and agree in our mind and heart, that these things is something God the Father sees as destructive.

Because it will destroy us. And you need to remind yourself, you are made righteous in Christ, so don't go back to what you are not.

You have been made clean and has given you the power of the HS to be free from all these. You are under Grace. You can do all things through Christ.
But it doesn't mean you should go looking for trouble.

What I mean is this: Avoid even looking at whatever pictures that will stimulate. If have, in your pc have those lust type of videos, delete it permanently.
All these are only on the surface prevention. What will really help is prayer! And I believe prayer works because Father God answer them!

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Nov 7 2014, 11:52 AM

I can do all things through Christ who strenghten me