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God's blessing on his people

I don't think any Christian believes that God doesn't bless who he wishes to bless; I know of many evangelical Christians, rich or poor, who are against the idea that Jesus died so that you can be healthy, wealthy and prosperous in your business. There's a difference between the two as I've highlighted above. But since you don't hold to the latter, good on you.




Matthew 8

Maybe you should reread the long textual argument I made: I was doing exactly just that, reading the OT in light of the new. Saying that Isaiah 53 is pointing to Jesus IS reading the OT in light of the NT.

Your argument from Matthew 8 is a interesting one but it is addressed in the paper I linked to you in my previous reply. Here it is again in case you missed it:

http://www.tms.edu/tmsj/tmsj6e.pdf


I'd encourage you to read the whole thing because I personally learned alot from it, but if you want to skip to where he deals with Matthew 8, go to page 132 onwards(the link is linked to portion of a bigger journal and is only 22 pages long)



Dinner was good. I had roast chicken, I like roast chicken.

Oh you'll be surprise there are Christians like that. No comment about wealthy but healthy and prosperous (to thrive) in life is something I believe is true.

It's not an argument even, It's Life. I'm not interested in theological argument but Life application of it. The truth of God's word stands against every form of argument. I don't know about you but Christianity is not about talk but power.


I had roast pork.

All this guilt ridden and shameful emotion overcame me when I went to church last weekend.

All these years when I thought that God didn't love me, but in fact, he actually love all of us. He paid for all of our sins, even though we are not worthy. But the pastor said that not all will repent and go to heaven. We must earn it.

He was there to cheer me up when I was sad.

He raised my hope when I lost hope.

He showed me the path when I was lost.

He opened my eyes when I was blinded by sins.

Now I hope that He will use me for a greater purpose.

Now I want to set a different priority in my life to a more God centric and maybe one day do God's work.

I hope I can serve God by using my talents.

Hi Tinar,

Glad that you know God loves you but I also hope you know that you can't earn God's Salvation.
He gives it to you out of his love for you by grace. Grace in lay term means receiving something you didn't earn or work for.

It's in Ephesians 2:8-9.

Thank GOD. Consider it's a joy ... you learn different people, you learn different organization, you learn to put distance with people, you learn a lot !

try this:
www.chc.org.my

not a perfect church, speak in tongue which maybe "weird" for you, yeah no church perfect... go try lah, if not "click" with yourself then somebody will recommend another church... consider restaurant tina ... when you find "your soulmate church" forgive my language... then start open urself slowly-slowly...

did you rebuke the cholesterol... or give thanks for the food ?

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Yes, I understand. Doing good works does not guarantee a one way ticket to heaven. I'm still learning, reading bible verses. I can't believe I got so many different bibles in my house. I prefer NIV though.

Uh, I, er had bad experience with churches like this too. No offense.

This is ngaisteve1 church:
http://www.malaysiachurch.org/

hopefully can find the "click"... "click" is important... teaching ? youtube can, internet can replace teachings... but "click" cannot get from internet

maybe you would like to try DUMC? or maybe PJ EFC

Everyone is still learning. We all progress daily when we spend time with God.

Actually God never mention just good works, it's also anything from ourselves as mentioned here below,
The meaning of works is like "effort". Can be anything.

Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—
9 not by works, so that no one can boast.

What we should do is just receive it by Faith (believe). From there the Holy Spirit will take over and guide you.
The Bible is inspired by the Holy Spirit.
Who else is better to guide you other than the Holy Spirit? He's the best. Better than any theologians with master degree even.



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Alright I will try it out. DUMC - I skip that. PJEFC - I actually wanted to go there but end up in PBC.

Enjoy this material about listening GOD. You need to know what to do with your talent GOD's way, not your way

http://www.cwgministries.org/Four-Keys-to-Hearing-Gods-Voice

I attended a local church few years back, I can't remember the name but the pastor keep on repeating that IF a christian does not attend church regularly, he or she is a BAD SPIRITED CHRISTIAN.

Sometimes, my work requires me to work overtime during the weekend. So how? This kind of pastor reminds me of those Pharisee.

It says "Page not found"?

Uh ok, now the link is working. hehe.

So, I have to wait for the Holy Spirit to prompt me? Is that all? I should pray about it then.



This post has been edited by tinarhian: Nov 5 2014, 12:12 AM

So that now you know what the word of God says, you won't be easily shaken.

I'll leave you with one more verse so that you can use it to strengthen your faith if you're down.

Hebrews 4:15-16 (NIV) - For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are--yet he did not sin. Let us then approach God's throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.

God understands and is able to sympathize with our weaknesses.
Never let anyone scares you with Christian legalism or theology like the Pharisees.

Pastors are suppose to feed his sheep not beat his sheep with guilt and condemnation.

You can see the video then read your Bible on the scripture mention in there.

God will speak most of the time through the Bible. Normally it's like that.

That's a good verse to remember. Thanks!

I don't like these legalistic and ego-testicle pastors.

So now I need to find a decent church, and attend cell group or bible classes, join baptism class and perhaps later become a member and join a ministry.

If only I have the time for all of that. I will try, but definitely I will attend the baptism class and become a member.

Then later, find a soulmate. lel.

This post has been edited by tinarhian: Nov 5 2014, 12:29 AM

I'm sure Pastor Marvin (it was Marvin from PBC right?) didn't say that we ought to "earn" our salvation though, he probably meant that not everyone will be saved.


But yes,



Martin Luther had this to say during the reformation:"Christ loves us not because we are lovely, but we are lovely because Christ loves us"

A good place to start would be to learn more about God, what He has done in history and what He is doing for us now and what He will be doing in the future.

I spoke to Marvin before (pastor at PBC), and I'd wholeheartedly recommend his series on "Bible overview" to start things off if you prefer listening over reading (he's really easy to understand with all his illustrations and stuff too). And if you want to start finding out about this "Charismatic vs non charismatic" thing, check out his series on the Holy Spirit as well. He's extremely delicate with the topic but still very easy to understand- the best part is that he never preaches about things he "dreams" about or had a "vision" about, but about what God's word says.

Here's the link to the sermon archives: http://www.pbc.my/index.php?option=com_eve...id=124&choose=4

although I don't attend PBC, I definitely benefited alot from his sermons.

If you're going to PJEFC, go talk to Ps. Alexa and tell her you want to be in a community where your faith can be built up and where you can learn how to read your Bible to understand God better.

If you've any questions, don't be afraid to PM me if you don't get a chance to talk to either of them! (I definitely recommend talking to either pastors vs talking to people like us online though, they'll be able to be more relational)

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If you need any Bible verse or explanation of it, tag me or pm me anytime.

I'm always in this thread.