So...how exactly does yeast be an accurate symbolization of the flesh?

And since when accuracy is parallel to symbolization? The word symbolization means that objects/symbols do not carry any meaning of their own, except for the meaning we give to them. As long as the partake o the orange juice is done with the intentions and in the spirit of communion, how will it be considered be wrong?

Since when superficial accuracy is parallel to symbolization?

Dun wan so noisy cannot tahan.

without yeast lo at least

wine is made of grapes or blackcurrant?

Tak ka use orange juice to represent/symbolize Jesus' blood kua?

So...how exactly does yeast be an accurate symbolization of the flesh?

And since when accuracy is parallel to symbolization? The word symbolization means that objects/symbols do not carry any meaning of their own, except for the meaning we give to them. As long as the partake o the orange juice is done with the intentions and in the spirit of communion, how will it be considered be wrong?

Since when superficial accuracy is parallel to symbolization?

Is not Jesus uses unleavened bread (without yeast) and wine in the Lord's supper (communion) to symbolize his body and blood?

Of course we can also use wine but due to cost factor, that wine can be replaced with 100% grape juice.

No lah dun go finding partner at church, if things dun work out, it looks funny. I know a cg leader who involve with this girl at church. Things didn't work out n he became beserk...quit his cg n then left the church. 

I have been doing ministries for some years...mana ada this kind of thing, women observe me?

Even my ex is from another church.

nope

But Jesus did not use the unleavened bread and wine because it is a must. He uses it because He used them with the intention to symbolize His communion with His disciples. There was no other written account that it must be explicitly the aforementioned bread and wine must be used for such symbolization, because symbolization is what symbolization is, it does not have a meaning, except for the ones we give to it.

Take your example of the wine vs. the grape juice for example. Just simply because there is a cost factor, why would it be permissible to use grape juice instead of authentic wine? If the symbolization is indeed as you have said, mandatory and explicitly to unleavened bread and wine, then wouldn't the use of grape juice contradicts this? A simple explanation will be the one I have given, that is as long as the meaning is given to any objects as a form of symbolization, it will fit the symbolization.

Because that's what symbolization really means.

That Fast? Don't think so, read it again.

flesh will rot while they are still standing on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths.

u have the point but u know any churches which uses cookies , orange juice or some other odd stuff?

More accurately it describes a very aggressive bacteria. Right now it's still quite rare, but it exists. Brb googling the term.

It's called Necrotizing fasciitis

WARNING VERY DISTURBING IMAGES Not for the squeamish at all seriously.

I am talking about the ingredient of the bread and wine has to be 'proper' not just simply any biscuit, cookies or ribena. another radio channel koyak. aiyaya

so go to bar / club lah ... there are a lot of pretty girls there...

when you found one, bring to church. what do u think ?

That, I do not know. But it is possible that many may not understand the definition of symbolization in the first place, hence the claims of inconsistency from various churches.
Err, better put on a spoiler or something.

I didn't paste the link for a reason. Just give the name. It's all sendiri google OTL

...but even symbolic also has to be some level of proper lo. ...

Perhaps what you mean level of proper is: I want the symbol to be as original / authentic as possible, in order to make JESUS happy ?

...I take it that you did not even bother reading my post, yes?

a dice has 6 faces. let the dealer rolls, and it's my turn to bet

How many LV or prada u have ah? 

The world (cosmos - one of the meaning)  is a system created by Satan.

The created things of the earth were ordained by God so that man could live for Him, but the systematized things of the world were ordered by Satan to usurp man so that man could not live for God. Satan arranged the world using the things that God ordained for man’s existence. These things have become the components of Satan’s system. He systematizes all the persons, things, and matters that God ordained for man’s existence along with some of his own inventions to organize the world so that he can usurp man.

Satan has mixed the world and the things that he invented with the things of the earth that were ordained by God so that it is difficult for man to distinguish between the two. For example, marriage, children, family, food, and other matters of man’s living are all ordained by God for his existence on the earth so that he can live for God. But Satan has taken the things that man needs for his existence and incorporated them into a worldly system in order to usurp man so that he would not be free to live for God. Originally, marriage, children, family, food, and other matters of man’s living were ordained by God so that he could live for God. Now marriage, children, family, clothing, food, and other matters have become things of the world to usurp man so that he cannot live for God.

In addition to the basic necessities of human existence, Satan also invented things that are not necessary for human living but which tempt people to the extent that they are even more fully systematized and usurped. For example, when some marry, they feel that they must ride in a decorated vehicle, have a certain kind of ceremony, or wear a certain kind of veil. Others feel they must celebrate when a child is born by eating special foods. Still others feel that they must wear special clothes in celebration of a new year or other festivals. None of these things are needed for human existence; they all were invented by Satan to further systematize us in relation to basic human necessities. Although marriage and childbearing are necessary for human existence, riding in a decorated vehicle, wearing a fancy veil, eating special foods, and wearing special clothes are not necessary for human living. Satan has added these items to our basic human necessities in order to further systematize and usurp us.

So there's always a master designer and you are the model? Poser..hahaha

When I first came to church here, it was a Holy Communion Sunday. So they passed around this wafer biscuits.

Because I remember when I was young, my previous church they used this round sacrament and they used red wine.

Yeah, I didn't know they used grape juice in Malaysia. 

But its just symbolic. What matters is worshiping God.