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de1929
post Dec 18 2014, 06:50 PM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Dec 18 2014, 12:32 PM)
One more thing to add here do share your views on christianity but not forcing it on others.

Imagine this, you already own TV A just bought it recently less than 6 months then one you go shopping around in the mall salesman keep pestering you to buy his new TV product which TV B, the TV spec is not much difference from your current TV just added a few features only

My question now is would you be happy if you were in that situation? Put yourself in other shoe before trying to force other on your ideology
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huh... i am running for my race. Help me and you will be prosper.
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post Dec 18 2014, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Dec 18 2014, 06:50 PM)
huh... i am running for my race. Help me and you will be prosper.
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sharing your views on Christianity is ok but forcing your views on other making them accept your theology is wrong

everyone is running their own race not only you but each of them have their own way how they want to run their race
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post Dec 18 2014, 10:50 PM

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amen
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post Dec 18 2014, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Dec 18 2014, 09:26 PM)
sharing your views on Christianity is ok but forcing your views on other making them accept your theology is wrong

everyone is running their own race not only you but each of them have their own way how they want to run their race
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QUOTE(meistsh_musical @ Dec 18 2014, 10:50 PM)
amen
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I recalled i discuss with sophiera long time ago about 1 point: The strong one wins...

it's not about right / wrong that matters. What matter is The strong one wins... Who do you think rule today ? the strong one or the correct one ?

People will naturally follow the strong one and yes, i have Christ so people will be blessed if they follow my advice. It is I, the overcomer by GOD's grace flex.gif

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post Dec 18 2014, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Dec 19 2014, 12:36 AM)
I recalled i discuss with sophiera long time ago about 1 point: The strong one wins...

it's not about right / wrong that matters. What matter is The strong one wins... Who do you think rule today ? the strong one or the correct one ?

People will naturally follow the strong one and yes, i have Christ so people will be blessed if they follow my advice. It is I, the overcomer by GOD's grace  flex.gif
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depend situation
can i know what is strong?
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post Dec 18 2014, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Dec 18 2014, 11:36 PM)
I recalled i discuss with sophiera long time ago about 1 point: The strong one wins...

it's not about right / wrong that matters. What matter is The strong one wins... Who do you think rule today ? the strong one or the correct one ?

People will naturally follow the strong one and yes, i have Christ so people will be blessed if they follow my advice. It is I, the overcomer by GOD's grace  flex.gif
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Christianity is not about right or wrong, if Christianity was based on this we are nowhere today

christianity is about faith, by faith God asked Abraham to sacrifice his only son on the altar for God which he heed so but stopped by God because God saw Abraham faith in The lord

so we should walk by faith and live by grace of the Lord which He has provided............
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post Dec 19 2014, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(meistsh_musical @ Dec 18 2014, 11:43 PM)
depend situation
can i know what is strong?
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Strong has many definition, like dice has 6 faces. So just let start with first one.

Strong is a condition of: Christ abundant favor is bestowed upon a guy or a church, regardless reason.

The favor is useful for many things. One of the reason is to resolve many problems in our lives. Or, to the next level, to help other ppl..... in recent context: to help church leader expand the church.

my favorite verse: be strong in GOD's grace.
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post Dec 19 2014, 12:05 AM

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Your definition of strength is very earthly. There is no competition for the 'best' dude in faith.
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post Dec 19 2014, 12:07 AM

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QUOTE(Sophiera @ Dec 19 2014, 12:05 AM)
Your definition of strength is very earthly. There is no competition for the 'best' dude in faith.
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have you resolved your unbeliever BF ?

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Dec 19 2014, 01:00 AM)
Strong has many definition, like dice has 6 faces. So just let start with first one.

Strong is a condition of: Christ abundant favor is bestowed upon a guy or a church, regardless reason.

The favor is useful for many things. One of the reason is to resolve many problems in our lives. Or, to the next level, to help other ppl..... in recent context: to help church leader expand the church.

my favorite verse: be strong in GOD's grace.
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my favorite verse: stay strong helping all people
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post Dec 19 2014, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(meistsh_musical @ Dec 19 2014, 12:11 AM)
my favorite verse: stay strong helping all people
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sounds good. I hope many christian ppl can stay strong like you n me biggrin.gif


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post Dec 19 2014, 12:19 AM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Dec 19 2014, 01:15 AM)
sounds good. I hope many christian ppl can stay strong like you n me biggrin.gif
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different ppl have different strong way

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post Dec 19 2014, 12:23 AM

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QUOTE(meistsh_musical @ Dec 19 2014, 12:19 AM)
different ppl have different strong way
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If you talked about different ppl have different strong way, then everybody should ask HS (Holy Spirit) right ? what area to improve / to contribute... this theology (Ask HS) i oso kena...
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post Dec 19 2014, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Dec 19 2014, 01:23 AM)
If you talked about different ppl have different strong way, then everybody should ask HS (Holy Spirit) right ? what area to improve / to contribute... this theology (Ask HS) i oso kena...
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only apply on certain people.. not all people are open-minded
i meet christian guy before, and his also less speak about religion.... they more on world news and business and interest
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post Dec 19 2014, 12:35 AM

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QUOTE(meistsh_musical @ Dec 19 2014, 12:27 AM)
only apply on certain people.. not all people are open-minded
i meet christian guy before, and his also less speak about religion.... they more on world news and business and interest
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I think... cuz the open minded are not as many as narrow minded ones... I am talking about headcount.

So 1 open minded like me + GOD's grace can simply win and convince 1,000,0000 closed minded ones, only by GOD's grace biggrin.gif

Strong one wins. Basic survival law hehehe...
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post Dec 19 2014, 07:00 AM

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QUOTE(de1929 @ Dec 19 2014, 12:07 AM)
have you resolved your unbeliever BF ?
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do you ever heard of this verse in Christ Jesus i can do all things.

by praying we can have our wishes heard by God
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post Dec 19 2014, 07:10 AM

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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Dec 19 2014, 07:00 AM)
do you ever heard of this verse in Christ Jesus i can do all things.

by praying we can have our wishes heard by God
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pray and breakthrough are 2 different things.
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post Dec 19 2014, 10:20 AM

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You know guys?

The Lord Jesus loves all of you in here.

And you know that is the most important thing in the world.

* Focus on that, instead of arguing.

This post has been edited by unknown warrior: Dec 19 2014, 10:55 AM
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post Dec 19 2014, 11:26 AM

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The experience of Jacob

Being Broken Pt 1

Genesis 32:22-32 relates a crucial experience in the life of Jacob, God's chosen one. This is truly an extraordinary portion of the Holy Word. It is unique, and there is no other passage in the Bible that is similar to it. However, due to the lack of experience, most Christians have not paid adequate attention to this part of Scripture.

Jacob's experience in this chapter is very practical, personal, and intimate. What could be more intimate than wrestling with someone for at least half a night? The Lord in the form of man wrestled with Jacob "until the breaking of the day" (v. 24). The Lord God would never wrestle with a stranger or with an unbelieving sinner. Notice that we are not told that the man "came" to wrestle with Jacob. There is no verse which says, "While Jacob remained there alone considering his trouble, the Lord came to wrestle with him." No, it simply says, "There wrestled a man with him," indicating that the man was already there and that there was no need for him to come. This reveals that the Lord had been with Jacob all the time.

Why did the Lord suddenly begin to wrestle with Jacob? There certainly must have been a reason for it. It was due to Jacob's background. As he was returning to his father's land, he had two problems—Laban behind him and Esau in front of him. Having been released from the usurping hand of Laban, he was now desperate as he faced the coming confrontation with his brother, Esau. It was at this time that the wrestling took place. Jacob's messengers had returned with the report that Esau was coming to meet Jacob with four hundred men. When Jacob heard this report, he was terrified.

According to Jacob's understanding, if Esau was coming to welcome him, there would have been no need of the four hundred men. It seemed to him that Esau was like a captain coming with an army. Undoubtedly, Jacob thought that Esau was coming to smite him. Believing this, Jacob was forced to pray. After praying an excellent prayer, he divided his gift of cattle for Esau into nine droves. But he had no peace, because his problem was still directly in front of him. Therefore, as verses 22 and 23 say, "He rose up that night, and took his two wives, and his two womenservants, and his eleven sons, and passed over the ford Jabbok. And he took them, and sent them over the brook, and sent over that he had." After doing all this, Jacob was alone and was probably considering the situation further and wondering what to do in case Esau would attack him. Jacob's burden was heavy, his situation was serious, and he was desperate.

The Bible gives no indication that Jacob prayed when he was alone. Many times, when you are not troubled, you pray, but when you are deeply troubled, you do not pray. The more you are troubled, the less you pray. Because the trouble is difficult and the situation serious, you simply cannot pray. Why? Because you have not yet been knocked down. No matter how serious the problem is, you have not been knocked down. Like Jacob, on the one hand we cannot go on, but on the other hand we do not pray. Rather, we remain there and ponder the situation, asking ourselves what to do.

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post Dec 19 2014, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 19 2014, 11:20 AM)
You know guys?

The Lord Jesus loves all of you in here.

And you know that is the most important thing in the world.

* Focus on that, instead of arguing.
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and the greatest commandment smile.gif thumbup.gif

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