QUOTE(pehkay @ Dec 3 2014, 07:51 AM)
I think in this world of political correctness "colouring" our eyes, we then to bring this to the Bible too

The term used by the Lord, "woman" is a term of respect and endearment.
The other reference is in John 19:26: "Woman, behold your son!"
According to A Manual Greek Lexicon of the New Testament by G. Abbott-Smith, using the word woman to refer to a female was "a term of respect and endearment." Bullinger's Companion Bible notation for verse 26 refers the reader to John 2:4 where Jesus also uses the term "woman." In the notes pertaining to this verse, "woman" is "a respectful form of address."
Adam Clarke's Commentary on the Bible for this verse makes an interesting comment as to WHY Jesus might have used the term "woman." It states he did so to possibly spare his mother's feelings, as the very mention of her name (given her firstborn son was being brutally killed though he was innocent) would have wrung more sorrow out of her heart.
Regarding the latter part of the sentence, Mary, the mother of Jesus, here signifies the natural man, which has nothing to do with life and which must be subdued by the divine life (vv. 3-5). When the wine was exhausted, the natural man came out and even prayed to the Lord. When Mary told the Lord, “They have no wine,” He said to her, “Woman, what have I to do with you? My hour has not yet come” (vv. 3-4). Often we are exactly like the mother of Jesus. We are today’s Mary, praying as a natural man according to our natural life.
Frequently the Lord will allow the wine in certain situations to run out in order that He might have an opportunity to change death into life. Even in a local church, the Lord may allow the situation to go into death. In such a case, the natural man will pray, “O Lord, do something to rescue the situation.” If you pray in this way, the Lord will turn to you and say, “What have I to do with you? You have nothing to do with Me in this matter.” Nearly all of us would act the same way Mary did. What then should we do? We should not do anything. Let the death come to the surface and be exposed. Then the Lord Jesus will come in.
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But then, to be fair, the Lord was genuine and frank ... and he tend to be very direct with Nicodemus, a senior respected man of the Jews.
Oh I see. Thanks dude.
QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 3 2014, 11:10 AM)
Being graceful towards elders is wisdom even though you may know something they don't.

God takes pleasure in such humility.
Oh that verse? It's a matter of choice. What I mean is this.
The day you decided in your heart and mind that the lust of the flesh is wrong and you want no part of it anymore and you made that request in prayer to God, this verse will come true.
I believe it's activated upon such determination. The way of escape and enduring will be there in your spirit. I can testify from my experience. The desire to continue or wanting to succumb to it, is simply not there.
But if you still have doubts or reservation whether you want to give up on lust, this way of escape is kinda elusive.

So we just got to pray to God for his strength so that we can control / reduce our lust / temptation.

All our attempt at resisting temptation will be useless unless we pray consistently to the HS.
Matthew 26:41
Keep watching and praying that you may not enter into temptation; the spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak”
Matthew 6:13
And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.
QUOTE(de1929 @ Dec 3 2014, 12:16 PM)
First, thanks for understanding me and have a heart to lead me to righteous living per christian value standard.
People with mindset like me, it's not only me bro ..

... There a a lot of Christian like me in indonesia. But they are not posting in lowyat for sure. Most of them they are business man, some do the ministry behind the screen.
If you ask them can bribe ? they will answer no. especially for pulpit ministry it's a BIG NO.
some thing can be shared in pulpit, some only in secret, perhaps only from 1-to-1 session only.
Here i share with you some truth, that maybe somebody can benefit. for somebody maybe an insult.
Lead to sin ? because our (meaning me and ppl that has same mindset) definition of sin is not bribe / bribe, but hamartia. Missing marks. Missing from GOD's assignment, missing from our to-do list in response to what HS has advised us.
few verses to justify:
1. Jesus come not to abolish the law, but to complete it. Meaning, the law it's not what, but who.
2. everything is permissible... becareful, what you reap is what you sow
3. Jesus broke the sabattical law because HE is the LORD of the law. For those who wanna break "the law", ask JESUS permission first.
4. There is higher cause to reason something, as it is written in the bible, there is highest law, the law that covers everything. Love you GOD (with a,b,c,d..) and Love your neighbour (with a,b,c,d).
Can bible reply ? cannot right ... only GOD can answer prayer. Only HS can advise
Bible is the highest authorithy ? isn't that everything is permissible also biblical ? or you want to remove everything is permissible from bible ?
Oh, so you are an Indonesian? Selamat sore. Senang bertemu anda.
Saya tidak bisa bicara bahasa Indonesia. Permisi.
QUOTE(Carlo J @ Dec 3 2014, 06:59 PM)
tinarhian Regarding the temptation subject, you can refer to this scripture:
Jesus the Great High Priest
14 Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has ascended into heaven,[a] Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to the faith we profess. 15 For we do not have a high priest who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are—yet he did not sin. 16 Let us then approach God’s throne of grace with confidence, so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.
This is from which book?
This post has been edited by tinarhian: Dec 3 2014, 08:20 PM