looking for self contain and off grid models.

making rumah kampung howmuch nowdays? rumah kayu.

depends on size n spec.. can be really crappy cheapo wood house or build to us/Aussie spec timber frame house

if using timber , should be too expensive. no cengal meranti or belian type. that is for luxurious house. can reach million.

those woods not really that expensive if know where to get. unless u end house owner then kena potong yeah just bought a pile of American white oak timber for a kitchen for next project . currently finishing a meranti wall paneling detail for a Dolby atmos home cinema project.

This post has been edited by ar188: Mar 2 2016, 01:45 AM

I want to become a subcon, what I should do first?
Any advice friend

u need experience
what's ur background?

Plastering,bricklay and painting.

Make sure you have enough bullets to be subcon. If you dealing business with developer or main on, do have a preparation of slow and bad paymaster. I would either suggest you go do renovation works or getting small or medium government projects.

Hi Guys,

How many of you here are consultants?
I am Buildin services / M&E engineering consultant.

Cheers.

Base material cost for a 20'x70' double storey is how much at minimum? How many party it went through, and each party mark up how much for profit?

In the end if I pay RM500k for that house, actually how much profit is made by all parties involved?

previously I done 1 checking on actual cost for some project. data is like this.

additional almost 100% of the house value also goes to the bank... means if house is 500k, in the end already paid the bank 1 million including interests...

actually those money needed to spend. those consultant, management practice their professionalism and skill so u can stay in a safe place.

yala... i never said dowan to pay... everyone has to cari makan also

Share my opinion.. I could be wrong, but hope at least i am making sense.. hehe.
Best person to answer this question will be people from developer or Quantity surveyor, aka cost controller.

During design and planning stage, usually the developer will keep a data / spreadsheet of all the cost of the projects.
That includes all the consultants fees, land cost, project budget (contract sum of the projects), their internal cost (project team, marketing, admin, etc), authority clearance fee / contribution, and other unforeseen cost, etc.

From there, they will work backward to to see the Net Sale-able Area to determine the selling price of the units. So that is how they pass this info to the marketing team and thus the selling price is revealed to all the buyers.
Sometimes could be other way round which means the marketing team done a survey what is the market requirement.. like what size of the units are preferred, what must be provided, facilities, and affordable price by the people for that properties. Then the project will work to meet the budget.

To answer your question, each party mark up how much for profit.
Depends on how you see it.
Developer just have to take note all the cost as i mentioned above. Perhaps u might be asking how much contractor has mark up each items to their client / developer.
Maybe take an example of supply of floors tiles.
Floor tiles supply this at one price, then local distributor mark up it and sell it to the floor tiles contractor. And there is X contractor won a contract from developer. X contractor sub-contract it to Y contractor to run the show where they appoint the floor tile contractor to do the job.
So you can decide how much things has been marked up from there. (of course sometimes contractor also getting bulk supplies with cheaper price, but have to cost in for installation cost, warranty / defects ).
Hope that answer your question.

In a way, developer may be able to sell at cheaper price if they have their own construction team. (developer cum contractor.. but not always the case).

Based on my observations, studies and experience. This is just sharing a piece of my thoughts and there is no right and wrong for property costing or any other fields such as cars, foods, clothes, private hospitals or schools and etc.

Since we are talking about construction costing and profits of each earning. I would like to break it down as below.

1. As developer, it is controlled by our local housing department. All developer license and sales permit mostly handling by this department including bumiputra lot and non bumi lots. One of the criteria is that developer must submit their gross developement value vs their nett sales margin. This value must be exceed of 15% margin. Duration of granted approval is another issue as wages are being paid monthly to the office employees.

2. Architect, C&S engineer, m&e engineer, surveyor, quantity serveyor (QS). This are major professional that developer will hire for a basic project. Their charges varies from 15% to 20%, it depends how big is your project and started engaging them one by one from your land purchased. This hasn't counted the land need to be clear, Level, reclamation, cut or remove excessive soil. Another aspects are soil investigation and load investigation.

3. Contractor. Contractors tendering each projects also based on their own rate as some factors do affects their rate such as overhead expenses and self ownered machineries or not, and their skills, but do not worry on this part as there is a market rate for this. But do remember costing for projects are much more different from renovation costing.

4. Materials costing. One of the key factors. This also depends on developer and architect as design concern or cost concern. For example floor tiles, floor types do have few qualities and types such as homogenous, marbles, timbers, cement screening and etc. all price are varies. Another aspect is suppliers, some can get a good deal for a same supplier and some not.

5. Workers, it depends on either on skills workers and local or imported. This is because their wages also one of the key factors.

6. Marketing. Normally fixed of this about 1~3% of total sales for dis department. It will cover all sales personnel wages, brochures, phone bills or some advertising and lastly commission. This allocation starts from first launching till completed sold all units. Time is a main key factor.
Marketing will determined by developer depends on few factors. Targeted market, demands and workmanship and services.

basically these are the factors influenced the property selling price. There are many more factors which I yet to fact in as if I do put in, then end up I will be writing a book.

Sorry if I wrongly mentioned as this is based on my area. All pricing are varies from each state. Sorry for the wrong msg.

how long is the period for latent defect?

are you asking for your own property?
Should be stated in your S&P agreement.


May refer link below but it could be very outdated.

I believe he is not asking for defects liability period (dlp).

Latent defects is if i am not mistaken a defects that we discover after dlp finish.